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Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]
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David is already established as having been controlling, and it is suggested that he had abandonment and trust issues. His father left when he was a kid, and it was just him and the women growing up. Again, I see no need to posit an incest angle with Keira to account for this, and as I said, it raises more questions than it answers.
From a storytelling perspective, I think it would be an incredible waste of time to build up David's legacy and posthumous reveal, only to have it be some sort of elaborate deception. Especially when everything else he writes in that journal checks out to a tee.
What you're suggesting isn't impossible. It just strikes me as needlessly convoluted, especially when we probably only have a couple more chapters to go.
Why do you think that?
Why does she need a different reason?
What is there to "reconcile"? I'm not following the thought process. Revealing the affair while Drew is still around seems like a perfectly valid way to bring the plot to crisis, which is a good thing this late in the game IMO.
Sure, because nothing says sensitivity about mental illness like framing it as a punishment or curse for past misdeeds.
So far it's just your idea, not WWG's.
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What's wrong with raising more questions? It's called a plot twist. Also, David stepping into the role of an absent father figure would parallel Sterling's story poetically.
After learning David had a small dick and got fucked in the ass by Drew, what "legacy" is there to protect? Isn't Sterling supplanting his father, i.e. filling the "power vacuum"? How would making David a sympathetic, tragic character serve the story better than utterly destroying his reputation?
If the game is almost over, then I agree. But I'm hoping we get a couple more chapters, which means we need more plot twists.
... Because I'm a critical thinker and don't automatically take everything at face value?
I don't know why you can't follow my thought process through a whole paragraph? Ophelia doesn't need a different reason, but the story may. If Ophelia finds out about the affair this soon then Drew is most likely out, which seems like a waste right after she showed up. If the game is wrapping up soon then yes, my point would be moot.
I'm trying to have a conversation in good faith but you're making a strawman argument here. Besides, you said yourself:
... No, incest doesn't always cause defects, but it does sometimes, doesn't it?
I'm glad you're here to tell me these things, after I already said so multiple times. I'm only offering mere speculation based on admittedly flimsy evidence. I'd be happy to be wrong, just to be surprised by the story.
You seem overly defensive about David and Lucia, why is that?
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Damn, I hope you like NTR because one of these guesses is close.
You pitched your idea as having explanatory value, as making sense of the plot so far. My point is that it really doesn't.
What do you mean? David already has the role of an absent father figure. And having him be Lucia's absent father, in addition to already being Sterling's, Brenna's, and Catherine's, wouldn't be a "poetic" parallel; it would be a completely literal commonality.
I meant "legacy" in the prosaic sense of "bequest", not the figurative sense of "memory" or "posthumous reputation." The stuff in the safe left for Sterling.
The reading of David's will, the mystery of what's in the safe, is all built up to as something momentous. And the payoff for that buildup is the revelations contained in the journal. Your proposal would make that payoff for naught, a pointless red herring. I'm not feeling this as a cool, interesting twist.
That doesn't really answer the question.
That assumes that Sterling goes to Ophelia with these revelations right away, as opposed to, for example, trying to play the hero and foil Drew and Hunter's machinations on his own while shielding the "girls" from what he's learned. There are all sorts of ways to spin out the drama without needless fake-out twists that negate previous setups and payoffs (e.g. Surprise! David's journal was all a lie! Surprise! it was all a dream!).
You led with the idea that assigning blame for Lucia's "neurodivergent issues" is some sort of selling point, then turned around and congratulated yourself for being "sensitive" in how you handled said issues. That's not a strawman; that's what you said.
You got me. It's because *I'm* really Lucia's father.
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Is the new NTR teasers a "new" NTR scene...? Or a more "in-depth" of the pervious NTR teasers...?
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New. The teasers today are all completely new teasers for NTR scenes we haven't been teased for yet.
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I see, so just have to ask... Seems like this chapter has more NTR scenes compared to the pervious chapters where there is 2 ntr scenes...? In that sense...?
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A few of us on the discord are saying that we think there is a possibility that there are up to 4 bad ends this chapter.
Edit: Well now that the teasers are out, here are the 4 that I think at least
1. Rebecca
2. Brenna (with Drew)
3. Brenna and Ophelia (with Hunter)
4. Tiff (with Hunter)
I could be wrong and some of these scenes can just be from 1 bad end at different times.
Wow! That's... Really something to look forward to! Always find how one small choice can lead to such big difference. Funny and hot at the same time.
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I remember this same kind of rumors last update. Is there any theory why it would be different this time ?
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Brenna and Ophelia!!! I'm really looking forward to enjoying that scene!
Thanks for sharing!
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I pitched it as a theory, based on a line of dialogue which I may certainly be reading too deep into. So your "point", that my point is probably wrong, should go without saying. But why don't you engage it directly, and offer an alternative to my take on David's writings?
I believe the word you're looking for is "redundant", but yes, that is exactly what I'm suggesting: by committing the same actions, Sterling more or less becomes his father, first by fucking his sister, and then by fucking Ophelia. In my opinion, this would be consistent with the central themes of this whole game. Did you complain this much when Oedipus fucked his mother?
Yes, the journal was a surprise and made us have sympathy for David, but do you still feel the same amount of sympathy after finding out he was cheating on Ophelia with Drew?
If you're just not feeling my idea, that's totally fair. I'm not trying to say my idea is the "right" one, just that it's "possible".
I assume you've seen the teaser where Sterling shows Ophelia something on a laptop which cause her to cry? I'm just guessing (as I've tried to convey throughout these posts, if you could just see the forest for the trees) that this being the reveal of the affair might be too obvious. I also want Drew to stick around longer. But hey, maybe it is exactly what it looks like, and Drew leaves, or doesn't, whatever?
Are you this trusting in real life? David's credibility has been called into serious question due to the affair. That doesn't mean what he wrote is untrue, just that he may have chosen not to write about everything.
Why does there have to be "blame"? I'm just trying to "connect the dots", something I enjoy with mystery stories. Lucia is clearly different (mentally), and I thought this could be a "Chekhov's Gun" scenario where there would be a narrative reason for it. I'm not passing judgement on anyone, and I'm too told to give a shit about getting credit for my sensitivity, but I am starting to wonder about your brain, given how focused you are on this particular topic. If I hit too close to home, then I apologize. If you're moralizing to me, consider you're on a porn forum. If you're just being an obtuse contrarian, F off.
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This time, there are hidden messages that i don't think are just coincidence.
"In Chapter 11, our MC loses MORE than ever before" and if you try to save one of the teasers in this teaser set, the teasers are called NTR4You. He could have typed it with "for", but he used 4. These 2 hints together make a strong case. It's called this
Kinda enjoy how deep the teasers are at times. Makes everyone a detective!
Then again... Next chapter is not the "end" right...? Or...?
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You guys be careful with the amateur detectiving, some users don't like it apparently!
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Who you calling an Amateur. I'm a great detective =p