Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[beegemgeege]

I havent once said you should be working harder. Why do you keep assuming. For the last time: the point made was that IF you spend time on something adjacent to the game, thats time you arent spending on the main game. Geezus. By all means, use this new free time to do whatever the hell you want. LOGICALLY some of that time could be used to work on the game further. NOT. THAT. YOU. HAVE. TO. But its an option. Which is the whole point.

 

[beegemgeege]

THEY JUST ASSUME YOURE COMPLAINING AND NOT TRYING TO EXPLAIN BASIC SEMANTICS

Thanks for playing along

 

[maynardkeynes65]

The fact that getting rid of what ifs adds *bonus content* to the next chapters is the proof in the pudding bud

I have two jobs: one is supposed to be full time and the other one I do very late at night (when I'm supposed to be free). I do it cause I need the money even though it is horribly tiring.

If WWG didn't to the WhatIfs, he would ve resting, going out with his people, watching a movie, whatever you do with your free time, not working on the main game which he already did cause HE IS NOT YOUR SLAVE.

Now, out pure integrity as a creator, he will sacrifice his free time not to earn more money but to continue to add bonus content to the main game so that him and everyone else can feel proud of the final product.

And how on earth do you repay him? With nothing but your incesant complains that only come from a useless ungreatful parasite such as yourself. To be schooled about working shifts by a low life like you... honestly WWG has way too much patience.

 

[What? Why? Games]

I havent once said you should be working harder. Why do you keep assuming. For the last time: the point made was that IF you spend time on something adjacent to the game, thats time you arent spending on the main game. Geezus. By all means, use this new free time to do whatever the hell you want. LOGICALLY some of that time could be used to work on the game further. NOT. THAT. YOU. HAVE. TO. But its an option. Which is the whole point.

So, you now want to pretend that your entire point was that any time I'm not spending on the game could be spent on the game?

Thanks for the super helpful tip!

 

[BeingADikDik]

What If ... WWG abandons the game one chapter before completion due to incessant complaints from entitled womp rats. Featuring Hunter fucking us all. The End?

 

[beegemgeege]

So, you now want to pretend that your entire point was that any time I'm not spending on the game could be spent on the game?

Thanks for the super helpful tip!

I literally said the opposite in the quote. Are you even reading them?

 

[Fayn Arawn]

I havent once said you should be working harder. Why do you keep assuming. For the last time: the point made was that IF you spend time on something adjacent to the game, thats time you arent spending on the main game. Geezus. By all means, use this new free time to do whatever the hell you want. LOGICALLY some of that time could be used to work on the game further. NOT. THAT. YOU. HAVE. TO. But its an option. Which is the whole point.

There's a difference between a fact and a point. Example: "2+2=4" is not a point.

 

[beegemgeege]

By all means, use this new free time to do whatever the hell you want. LOGICALLY some of that time could be used to work on the game further. NOT. THAT. YOU. HAVE. TO. But its an option. Which is the whole point.

 

[beegemgeege]

There's a difference between a fact and a point. Example: "2+2=4" is not a point.

Exactly. Its a fact. Same as time not spent somewhere *could* be used somewhere else

NOOOOOOOOT TTHHHAAATTT HEEEEE HAS TOOOOOO

 

[rhcp725]

So here's the thing. The what ifs were diversions from the main narrative that were different enough because concepts came from Patrons. By now cutting them for more base work on main game it potentially increases the odds of burnout. You can only work on the same thing for so long before you need a break from it.

The main game is his full time job. When you leave work do you go and do the exact same thing when you get home? I drive/deliver for FedEx, once i get home the last thing i want to do is drive anymore. In WWG's case the main game is what he does for 40-50 hours a week. Now he was using his non work hours for what ifs instead of getting away from the computer and doing other things as a thank you to his highest tier patrons. So instead of watching tv, going out, ect... WWG instead used his main skill set for something different.

Honestly I'm kinda worried that instead of getting that break he is going to add those what if hours to main game production. In turn the risk of burnout, creative block or even desire to just stop PV increases exponentially due to it potentially taking up too much of his time. Let's hope that the game doesn't suffer because of his choice. Thanks WWG for the work you've done already and the increased work load you plan to take on to deliver an epic last few chapters of PV.

 

[What? Why? Games]

I have to assume you're trolling at this point. Goodnight.

 

[beegemgeege]

Same way arguing time semantics on a forum is time not spent somewhere else

 

[Darth Helmet]

I just came to see if there's any news and it's suddenly chaotic. Feels like the Summertime Saga thread. Can we go back to being normal and asking "WhEn uPdAtE rElEaSe?" Thanks.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Same way arguing time semantics on a forum is time not spent somewhere else

The funny thing is we're not arguing semantics. You're arguing semantics, because you're either making a strawman or you're just slow. The fact that WWG can work extra time on the main game, instead of What Ifs, is not in dispute. This exchange started with uscmiller22's assertion that working on What Ifs slowed the progress on the main game, which is patently false, but you agreed with him. Read it again. That's why we're arguing.

So personally I’m not bothered by this and look forward to what’s to come, but boy does this poke a hole in the “what ifs” don’t make the game take longer camp. How many people were arguing left and right that it had absolutely no effect on the main game? Guess all the people telling the whiners to shut up about the what ifs delaying things were 100% wrong. This is kind of a funny little development, shocked that war hasn’t started back up.

 

[THEBOSS23234545]

Omg y’all crazy. Can we just talk about how Hunter looks like a shriveled nutsack that just got pulled from a fire. And also how the fuck is Catherine so white when Hunter is dark as hell, and Ophelia is still quite black, somewhere on the border of light skin. And then her and father (can’t remember his name) pump out 3 FULLY WHITE children and one is a fucking GINGER. I get that because of the whole patreon thing they need to look like they aren’t directly related but there’s only so much I can do to suspend my belief. I get that genes dissipate as generations go on, and it is possible for a black woman and a white man to have a white child, but three in a row is an incredibly rare possibility.

 

[Bear2093]

The What Ifs were great and the dev was cool enough to take time out of his free schedule to make them. But if he has the end in sight and whats to focus on finishing up main game, completely understand. I'm hoping that Hunter's bad end for this coming chapter involves brainwashing Sterling, and we see some dp action. Cause if the end is near, definitely would like to see some dp action with Opheila and Brenna.

 

[strenif]

While I enjoy What Ifs I'm glad he's dropping them.

 

[KiraMantis]

While I enjoy What Ifs I'm glad he's dropping them.

I just hope, he makes more bad ends. I just don't like vanilla, and I think sterling is just boring. Love the girls getting corrupted.

 

[Devilrv]

More Power Vacuum is Good. Any kind that might be!!!!!

 

[SuddenReal]

Ive got no problem with it either, but trying to get the forum to understand the base logic that time spent on the what ifs was time not spent on the game is a waste of time.

So, to make it clear: time spent on the what ifs was time not spent on the game.

What you do with that time is entirely up to you but yes, it does in fact leave more time for things including more content for the main game.

Again, free time should be spent on the game.

I havent once said you should be working harder.

Yes, you have, since you said twice already that free time should be spent on the game. But you'll argue that it's semantics and you're just "implying" it.

I literally said the opposite in the quote.

No you didn't.