Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[FoolishFool0]

PV simply is pushing the Ugly Bastard trope to comical extreme. That's the whole point of PV. You seriously didn't get that WWG is making fun of the Harem anti-NTR fandom from this game?

I'm pretty sure the game is making fun of, like... a lot of shit lol.

This whole game is basically a satirical attack on almost every trope in the house game genre.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

First of, NTR is a very specific type of cheating fetish. It's requires a series of specific factors to count as such, and needs to be taken into account as its own beast.

I was under the impression that what we refer to in shorthand as "NTR" actually includes variations, e.g. netori/netorare/netorase, and in some instances the "stolen" lover has agency.

There is a reason if Griffith only looks at Guts as he's raping Casca.

There's a lot of subtext to that scene, but it's still a good example to compare with PV because the development of the characters is what gives the scene such emotional weight in the first place. Without all of the buildup and context, it's just sex. PV characters feel better realized than in your average VN, and that makes the NTR scenes more impactful.

TBH, the first time a saw that Griffith/Casca scene (20+ years ago), I think I was mad about it for a month!

Japanese Animated Porn, on the other hand, can straight up make up some of the most hideous motherfuckers ever devised, a concept that is seemingly replicated here too with Hunter and to a lesser extent Kevin, whose physical hideousness is but a metaphor for the fundamental core theme of this game, which is "self improvement" (Sterling actively decides to become a better person, Hunter decides to coast by and live off his cock and "shortcuts" to get women).

I would guess that "ugly bastard" hentai like Kisaku The Letch was a source of inspiration for Hunter in the first place.

 

[lipe2410]

So here's a little Mantra that can help you get over those nasty feeling you feel upon seeing fictional characters:

I am not the MC
The MC is not me
Nothing is real
It doesn't matter
This is a fictional story about fictional characters
I do not need to feel jealousy
The MC is not me
I will stop those feeling of jealousy
And instead learn to appreciate interesting porn scene.

repeat that to yourself and you may get out of this hole.

My mantra is more like: Let's fuck up the plans of the creep old man
But i get you man

 

[genteis]

I see this a lot and either they don't understand what empathy is, have fallen for the "self insertion bad" meme or are genuine sociopaths. Media with characters is made almost entirely around the idea that the watcher can relate to other humans

I think you are forgetting one important thing here. These porn games don't have the level of writing, where I am supposed to self-insert as the male protagonist, they all feel the same in general. If I am having a rough time and feel down, maybe I will watch a movie that relates to my situation to feel better or just watch something that gets me motivated in general but definitely not porn games.

I play the porn games to have a change from the vanilla porn. Reason why I don't play or understand why people play vanilla games is because you can either get that from real life or watch the usual porn. While porn games are a good medium for the kinkier stuff. I mean... when you watch real porn, where women are with more disgusting guys, it is not really enjoyable is it? The guy is basically a corpse and girl is obviously disgusted, so it is an automatic turn-off. Or cheating porn, not really enjoyable either because I could see her in dozens of other videos and know that it is a fake story, which might not seem logical if I try to imply these games are "real stories" but it feels different and works different.

 

[ubbus05]

When will the next update be available?

 

[Dragoci]

When will the next update be available?

This month, but an exact deadline has not been given.

 

[dartred]

Mid month was devs guess.

 

[Prometheus51]

Goddamn, don't y'all ever get tired of writing multi paragraph comments on a forum about porn games? From amateur psych evals on people you never met and will never meet to explaining fetishes to the people who don't like them to complaining about something completely optional. The fact that y'all can have the exact same mundane meaningless conversations about an optional fetish all the time is truly amazing. Everytime I see a notification for this thread I think "I hope this is something other than ntr" and then comes the immediate disappointment.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Goddamn, don't y'all ever get tired of writing multi paragraph comments on a forum about porn games? From amateur psych evals on people you never met and will never meet to explaining fetishes to the people who don't like them to complaining about something completely optional. The fact that y'all can have the exact same mundane meaningless conversations about an optional fetish all the time is truly amazing. Everytime I see a notification for this thread I think "I hope this is something other than ntr" and then comes the immediate disappointment.

And here I thought we had a mostly civil exchange of ideas going for once.

I tried starting a discussion about the size of Ophelia's boobs a few pages back but no one bit. What would you like to talk about?

 

[yourmomma]

I must have stuck a nerve, you don't need to be a psychologist to notice basic patterns of porn addiction.

Oh Please, the premise of your argument is akin to basically saying First Shooter Video games creates mass murderers.

Not to mention the irony of you being here in a porn game pirating site playing psychologist with everyone.

Again here's your mirror lol

 

[RedPotatoe]

And here I thought we had a mostly civil exchange of ideas going for once.

I tried starting a discussion about the size of Ophelia's boobs a few pages back but no one bit. What would you like to talk about?

Ophelias boobs are nice, but I prefer Catherine´s.

 

[TrueJackal]

I can only tell my opinion. It is a combination what Fayn Arawn said. Personally, i don't care if it is Vanilla or NTR because at the end of the day, it is still just porn. So, as he said i don't self insert myself as the main character.

What i care about is a good story with decent or funny twists. And Power Vacuum is brilliant at that. Almost all the scenes what lead up to NTR are hilarious.
- Hunter dressing up like the MC + that stupid wig?
- The threesome with Chaterine and Amber?
- The D&D party?
- Drew seducing Tiff in the spa?

I mean ... it is just so entertaining to watch.

Now, the other point. As Fayn Arawn said ... "Some guys even like it because they like seeing women get sexually destroyed and left a cum-soaked mess."
Yes, i like to see a good fuck. It is that simple.

But, i see Vanilla the same. I find it equally hot, if the MC is the one who seduce a girl and fuck her brain out.

So, it is not the 'What' i care about most, but the 'How.' And Power Vacuum shines at the 'How'.

I really hope we see another family event like the D&D event. It's a nice way to shake things up by having the characters all play a game together.

 

[Pervinator]

And here I thought we had a mostly civil exchange of ideas going for once.

I tried starting a discussion about the size of Ophelia's boobs a few pages back but no one bit. What would you like to talk about?

I like boobs.

 

[yourmomma]

I really hope we see another family event like the D&D event. It's a nice way to shake things up by having the characters all play a game together.

Wholesome post.

 

[Vectoro]

Yes you don't get it. You're not that guy. No matter how you wish you could be YOU ARE NOT THE MC. You assume because you somehow control some of the MC's action you are the character and that's why you conclude if people like watching scene where the MC is not the only one getting pussy it's a cuckold fetish.

It's not. Most of the time the MC is the least interesting character. Sterling is not a good guy, he's not interesting. He's just one dick among many looking to get wet.

I'm not getting cucked. I am not the protagonist. The protagonist is a made up character in a video game and has no relation to my real life. So when he's getting pussy I'm not getting some at the same time.

Stop assuming that NTR as it stand here on F95 mean truly means cuckold. It does not. It simply mean "Male characters other than MC in a Male protagonist setting get sex"

Projecting yourself into the main character is a very problematic thing a lot of people have here. It create a level of self-entitlement so high it's baffling they can be functionning member of society. Like how do you react when you see a random couple in the street? do you have bouts of jealousy because all women should be yours?

Oh, I'm not projecting, I don't see myself as the MC, I'm merely just trying to understand a kink/fetish that confuses me.

 

[fidgetspinner]

Oh, I'm not projecting, I don't see myself as the MC, I'm merely just trying to understand a kink/fetish that confuses me.

You literally said "Like I kind of get being the guy that is doing the cucking it's a power thing but I don't get the being cucked part." I'm not getting cucked, you aren't either, the MC is.

 

[Vectoro]

You literally said "Like I kind of get being the guy that is doing the cucking it's a power thing but I don't get the being cucked part." I'm not getting cucked, you aren't either, the MC is.

Oh, I didn't mean this game in particular, I meant the fetish as a whole. I honestly don't care either way if someone likes it (more power to them) not my place to pass judgment. Maybe I didn't phrase my question right that happens more than I like. I'm looking at this more from a clinical perspective I guess "Why Do People Like This" is a question I've asked about a lot of different people's tastes.

 

[Prometheus51]

And here I thought we had a mostly civil exchange of ideas going for once.

I tried starting a discussion about the size of Ophelia's boobs a few pages back but no one bit. What would you like to talk about?

It can be a civil exchange, it's also a conversation that's happened dozens of times before ad nauseum.

I didn't see it. I'm assuming people started to talk about ntr again after you made that comment and it buried. If it was any other thread people might've replied to it. I'm going need to look at the tits on each of the characters again to get an exact answer but Ophelia's tits are very good.

 

[Snugglepuff]

I'm going need to look at the tits on each of the characters again to get an exact answer but Ophelia's tits are very good.

I'd say Ophelia's tits = Best Tits... In this game at least.

Big, soft, probably quite hot so perfect to nuzzle into/motorboat and all with the added bonus of providing a nutritional boost!

 

[fidgetspinner]

-Both Timestamps games.
-Warlock and Boobs.
-Superpowered.
-Dating My Daughter.
-The Genesis Order.
-The Last Sovereign.
These are not exceptions.

Timestamps: people complained and called it NTR
Warlock: RPGM don't care
Superpowered: again NTR complaint
DmD: LuL you're really using DmD as proof anti-ntr gang is not crying wolf?
Genesis order: bonus scene of past NLT game protagonist fucking their harem. No character have sex scene in the game outside of MC. You're grasping at straws to use that example.
The Last Sovereign: RPGM don't care

Other male characters having sex with women characters in a game does not equal ntr. The women characters have to be a love interest of the MC, and the scenarios have to have them cheating on the MC and the MC being jealous of it.

That's the point. If all women are sexual object of the MC then all of them are technical LI (even if at this point in story/development they are not)
That's my entire criticism. It's like that kid in kindergarten who hoard all the toys and say they are his.