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Just making sure here, even with the mandatory patch, my game says version 10 down in the corner of the main menu. Is this intended?
 

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Just making sure here, even with the mandatory patch, my game says version 10 down in the corner of the main menu. Is this intended?
No. something is wrong. Either you downloaded an old version or maybe you installed an old patch. Try grabbing fresh copies of both.
 

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Literally the only differences were a single word like "caretaker" instead of "mom" and "roommate" instead of "sister". There wasn't anything that didn't make sense. The game was fine and enjoyable. All I'm asking is if there's a way to revert the incest like previous chapters had. Simple as that. I'm not knocking you for liking having sex with your mother or sister. I'm just saying it's not for me.
yes, use a custom dictionary filter like this:

Code:
init python:

    import re
    def word_replace(text):
        """
        take a text and replace words that match the key in a dictionary
        with the associated value, return the changed text
        """

        def translate(match):
            word = match.group(0)
            return replace_dict.get(word, word)
    
        return re.sub(r"\b[A-Za-z_]\w*\b", translate, text)

# create a dictionary of key_word:replace_with pairs
    replace_dict = {
    "mom" : "guardian",
    "Mom" : "Guardian",
    "sister" : "friend"
    }

define config.say_menu_text_filter =  word_replace
then add in as needed pairs into the replace_dict - so "sis" "sister" "daughter", whatever may have you, I havent completed game so I dont know how many pronoun variations it uses. Also - note this wont work with dialogue variables in strings; but in that case you can just change the values yourself.

I'm gonna be honest here. If you don't like incest or at least arent ok with it even if it's not a kink you like, then don't play a game with the incest tag on this site. Most of the games I've seen on this site with an incest tag make absolutely no sense with it with very few excepts. Even in the older chapters the dialogue was always super awkward and strange without the patch and the story didn't really make a lot of sense.
This is such a lazy sentiment you see tossed around often here, and it's completely vapid- obviously when a player looks at a tag list they dont anticipate the relative weighting to be one way or another. For example, this game has a "drugs" tag. Obviously, one would be understandably surprised if they played the game and it ended up being a singular sex scene (which encompassed the other tags), then 8 hours of gameplay involving different girls sticking needles in their arms.

To think that someone would react to that player's concerns with "What?? it's in the tags, if you dont like it dont play it." is the height of intellectual dishonesty. All I really see when I read these type of comments is "I like the genre which is well-represented by this game, I see you dont like this genre, thus I'm going to condescend to you"
 

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All I really see when I read these type of comments is "I like the genre which is well-represented by this game, I see you dont like this genre, thus I'm going to condescend to you"
It's a fair point though.
It's about as bad as people who go into threads for ntr-centric games and complain about the presence of ntr, and vice versa.

Given that the Incest Patch is mandatory, then it's clearly intended to play as an incest themed game. It's not rocket science.
 

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Given that the Incest Patch is mandatory, then it's clearly intended to play as an incest themed game. It's not rocket science.
I suppose that's a reasonable observation in this case. All this could be fixed with some sort of "primary" tagging system; like 3 tags of every game are bolded to indicate the majority, removing the guesswork.
 
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I suppose that's a reasonable observation in this case. All this could be fixed with some sort of "primary" tagging system; like 3 tags of every game are bolded to indicate the majority of guesswork.
True, dividing tags into 2-3 tiers: Primary, Major and Minor ones would improve the tagging system for games like this one. Could be solved with a simple coloring system, not that I expect that to ever happen.
 
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Hopefully wee see who Lucia's father is in next chapter.
We get to see Sterling fucking Drew in her ass
And not sure what else
Fixed.
Along with the start of Kevin and Hunter finding each other, and riding off into the sunset, with Hunter being the bottom for once.
Oh, the reveal that Catherine has a bun in the oven, and quite possibly the rest of the family and lovers not far behind.
 
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storm1051787

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yes, use a custom dictionary filter like this:

Code:
init python:

    import re
    def word_replace(text):
        """
        take a text and replace words that match the key in a dictionary
        with the associated value, return the changed text
        """

        def translate(match):
            word = match.group(0)
            return replace_dict.get(word, word)

        return re.sub(r"\b[A-Za-z_]\w*\b", translate, text)

# create a dictionary of key_word:replace_with pairs
    replace_dict = {
    "mom" : "guardian",
    "Mom" : "Guardian",
    "sister" : "friend"
    }

define config.say_menu_text_filter =  word_replace
then add in as needed pairs into the replace_dict - so "sis" "sister" "daughter", whatever may have you, I havent completed game so I dont know how many pronoun variations it uses. Also - note this wont work with dialogue variables in strings; but in that case you can just change the values yourself.



This is such a lazy sentiment you see tossed around often here, and it's completely vapid- obviously when a player looks at a tag list they dont anticipate the relative weighting to be one way or another. For example, this game has a "drugs" tag. Obviously, one would be understandably surprised if they played the game and it ended up being a singular sex scene (which encompassed the other tags), then 8 hours of gameplay involving different girls sticking needles in their arms.

To think that someone would react to that player's concerns with "What?? it's in the tags, if you dont like it dont play it." is the height of intellectual dishonesty. All I really see when I read these type of comments is "I like the genre which is well-represented by this game, I see you dont like this genre, thus I'm going to condescend to you"


That's why you can also use the search function to see if certain content is avoidable or not or how much it is. Stop acting like this is rocket science. There's a bunch of stuff you can do to find out more about the game and it's probably a good idea to do that before you try any game anyway.


Sorry, but if you don't like a genre then choose to play a game with heavy content for that genre then complain about it I'm going to condemn you. I don't care at all what genres you like or don't like. I know I don't like what everyone here likes. People have preferences and that's ok. But you have to be smart about how you approach content you do and don't like. The tags aren't just to let people know it has content they like it's also to let people know that a game has content they don't like. It's like the definition or choosing a book by it's cover. The least you could do is read the back of the book to get some idea of what it's about. Next thing you know you accidently bought smut for your kid thinking it was a YA novel.


That's why I said it works better for sandbox games or games where the family characters are more minor. Because the incest themes are easier to write off or ignore if it's something your not into in those games compared this this game where 70% of the content is incest themed. Even the ntr is incest. And if you're not sure about something it's better to just avoid it all together. You don't need a bunch of secondary or third tagging. It's takes about five mins to look through a thread or read some of the reviews to find out if a game is right for you or not.


So is it vapid because it's bad advice or is it vapid because you don't like being called out on intentionally making ill informed decisions? It's like going to an ntr heavy game and complaining when all you had to do is use the search function to see whether the ntr was avoidable or not.
 

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Fixed.
Along with the start of Kevin and Hunter finding each other, and riding off into the sunset, with Hunter being the bottom for once.
Oh, the reveal that Catherine has a bun in the oven, and quite possibly the rest of the family and lovers not far behind.
Why do you think Catherine has a bun in the oven? And who is the dad going to be?
 

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And if you're not sure about something it's better to just avoid it all together. You don't need a bunch of secondary or third tagging. It's takes about five mins to look through a thread or read some of the reviews to find out if a game is right for you or not.
This is a luxury enjoyed by fans of genres(tags) overrepresented on this site that not all players have. I see where you're coming from, if you don't like a particularly game tagged with incest, there's a mere 66 more pages of options.
 

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That's why you can also use the search function to see if certain content is avoidable or not or how much it is. Stop acting like this is rocket science. There's a bunch of stuff you can do to find out more about the game and it's probably a good idea to do that before you try any game anyway.


Sorry, but if you don't like a genre then choose to play a game with heavy content for that genre then complain about it I'm going to condemn you. I don't care at all what genres you like or don't like. I know I don't like what everyone here likes. People have preferences and that's ok. But you have to be smart about how you approach content you do and don't like. The tags aren't just to let people know it has content they like it's also to let people know that a game has content they don't like. It's like the definition or choosing a book by it's cover. The least you could do is read the back of the book to get some idea of what it's about. Next thing you know you accidently bought smut for your kid thinking it was a YA novel.


That's why I said it works better for sandbox games or games where the family characters are more minor. Because the incest themes are easier to write off or ignore if it's something your not into in those games compared this this game where 70% of the content is incest themed. Even the ntr is incest. And if you're not sure about something it's better to just avoid it all together. You don't need a bunch of secondary or third tagging. It's takes about five mins to look through a thread or read some of the reviews to find out if a game is right for you or not.


So is it vapid because it's bad advice or is it vapid because you don't like being called out on intentionally making ill informed decisions? It's like going to an ntr heavy game and complaining when all you had to do is use the search function to see whether the ntr was avoidable or not.
I agree with you that Power Vacuum has heavy incest themes that are pretty obvious despite using the patch or replacing the pronouns, and people who are turned off by incest should probably avoid this game.

But you also commented about incest games in general, while I think there are varying degrees. I've played several games without patching and was either oblivious to the intended relationships or found them very easy to ignore; non-fans of incest can probably enjoy those games without issue.

Basically I'm saying your point may be better received if you kept it to the context of this game.
 

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I agree with you that Power Vacuum has heavy incest themes that are pretty obvious despite using the patch or replacing the pronouns, and people who are turned off by incest should probably avoid this game.

But you also commented about incest games in general, while I think there are varying degrees. I've played several games without patching and was either oblivious to the intended relationships or found them very easy to ignore; non-fans of incest can probably enjoy those games without issue.

Basically I'm saying your point may be better received if you kept it to the context of this game.


Which is why I said most games not all games and listed tags that typically have less heavy incest themes assosiated with them. And why I suggested using the search function. Frankly if it's a VN type game with incest themes just avoid it. The more prominate the family members are in the story the harder it is to avoid incest themes. I don't really care about my point being better recieved. I just think the other commenters point was dumb. You want to complain that people are annoyed at you choosing to play a game with tags you dislike and then complaining about it. Like I said it's really just you being annoyed at people calling you out for your bad decision making.
 

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This is a luxury enjoyed by fans of genres(tags) overrepresented on this site that not all players have. I see where you're coming from, if you don't like a particularly game tagged with incest, there's a mere 66 more pages of options.


It is very very very easy to find a game on this site without an incest tag. Some of the most popular games on the site don't have the tag or any incest themes at all. Just like it's also very easy to find games that don't have the ntr tag. This site literally has hundreds of games. I honestly say it's harder to find a good game with a tag you like for most tags than it is to find one without tags you don't like. If a game is heavy with content you like but is also very heavy with unavoidable content you don't like then it's better to avoid the game.
 

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Which is why I said most games not all games and listed tags that typically have less heavy incest themes assosiated with them. And why I suggested using the search function. Frankly if it's a VN type game with incest themes just avoid it. The more prominate the family members are in the story the harder it is to avoid incest themes. I don't really care about my point being better recieved. I just think the other commenters point was dumb. You want to complain that people are annoyed at you choosing to play a game with tags you dislike and then complaining about it. Like I said it's really just you being annoyed at people calling you out for your bad decision making.
I dont disagree sometimes search by tags to exclude is more useful than inclusion.

I'm still always confused at the pushback anyone gives against a better tag weighting system. Why WOULDNT anyone want everyone to be able to find their preferences more easily? This isn't black and white, so stop treating it like some discrete system. I'd wager the average player may have themes they can tolerate in the background, but won't play if they're the main focus of the game.

This lazy rhetoric almost sounds like politics to say "you picked a game that had a tag you disliked then complained", a la "you dont like the way this country/business/group runs, you can just get out!" ignoring the context of those decisions.

Again, I want everyone (including you!) to be able to find the games they like quickly and easily. That seems pretty uncontroversial.
 
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Is there a way to get rid of the incest in Chapter 11? Previously (or at least chapter 10) I deleted patch.rpy as people mentioned, but Sterling still calls Ophelia mom. I'm not a fan of incest so if it can't be removed anymore I'll sadly have to drop this game.
Override patch.rpy with the attached one (Works with Chapter 11)

How does it work?

Opening the game with patch.rpy overrides the variable that stores the default-lines with the incest lines, these remain, even when patch.rpy is removed. But you can modify patch.rpy and write the old lines back.
 

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I dont disagree sometimes search by tags to exclude is more useful than inclusion.

I'm still always confused at the pushback anyone gives against a better tag weighting system. Why WOULDNT anyone want everyone to be able to find their preferences more easily? This isn't black and white, so stop treating it like some discrete system. I'd wager the average player may have themes they can tolerate in the background, but won't play if they're the main focus of the game.

This lazy rhetoric almost sounds like politics to say "you picked a game that had a tag you disliked then complained", a la "you dont like the way this country/business/group runs, you can just get out!" ignoring the context of those decisions.

Again, I want everyone (including you!) to be able to find the games they like quickly and easily. That seems pretty uncontroversial.
Because it's really not necessary and your suggestion is more complicated that it sounds.
Even some of the tags that have light content is just because it hasn't been fully implimented and is planned later on. Most of what you suggested can be solved simply by using the search function. The real issue is that people seem to be incapable of actually using it. And no it's nothing like politics because this is entertainment and not something that effects your personal lives the majority of the time.


It's like you saw a movie you disliked. Yeah it was bad and you disliked it so you choose to never watch it again and go do something else.
If you want to find out whether content is heavy or light use the search function ask people in the threads, look at reviews. This stuff takes at best a couple of mins, but you people just choose to instantly download instead of doing the bare minimum of research before getting into something. The site could use more tags I agree but having some sort of tag for light or heavy content is pretty useless when that information is usually on the front page.


You people need to do more research before you commit to something. And stop getting mad when people point it out. This is not like who you vote for this is like choosing what movie you want to watch on movie night. If you don't know what that movie on Netflix is about you can use google or watch the trailer.
 
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