lipe2410

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What are your top 5 pairings you're hoping for Ch13 ?
OpheliaxSterling since the number of opheliaxsterling sex scenes so closer to the finish line not even compensate the to long slowburn between them.
OpheliaxKumiko
SterlingxTsukiko and/or Natsuko
TiffanyxAmber with Sterling coming out later for a threesome or not
LuciaxKiera with Sterling coming out later for a threesome or not

I do also hope for two types of orgy: a only-milf orgy with Sterling and all the mothers of the game (OpheliaxKumikoxFloraxKieraxNora), then a only-daughters with Sterling and BrennaxCatherinexAmberxTsukikoxNatsukoxLuciaxTiffany.
I also hope for a all-family scene with Sterling OpheliaxBrennaxCatherinexAlizaxNoraxLuciaxKiera.
 

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OpheliaxSterling since the number of opheliaxsterling sex scenes so closer to the finish line not even compensate the to long slowburn between them.
OpheliaxKumiko
SterlingxTsukiko and/or Natsuko
TiffanyxAmber with Sterling coming out later for a threesome or not
LuciaxKiera with Sterling coming out later for a threesome or not

I do also hope for two types of orgy: a only-milf orgy with Sterling and all the mothers of the game (OpheliaxKumikoxFloraxKieraxNora), then a only-daughters with Sterling and BrennaxCatherinexAmberxTsukikoxNatsukoxLuciaxTiffany.
I also hope for a all-family scene with Sterling OpheliaxBrennaxCatherinexAlizaxNoraxLuciaxKiera.
that's a nice and wholesome list :giggle:
 

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Not a Visual Novel. It's a Kinetic Novel, with sandbox elements.
We don't have control over the story beyond not choosing Bad Ends.
"A kinetic novel is the same visual novel with no variation, heading towards a pre-conceived ending where the player can't influence anything, being in the position of a passenger in the story."
And hence no sandbox is even in the air here...
 

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Yes.



Not a Visual Novel. It's a Kinetic Novel, with sandbox elements.
We don't have control over the story beyond not choosing Bad Ends.
It's true, it's a kinetic novel focused on harem with elements of avoidable NTR that at times I feel like I'm in Groundhog Day when I'm playing, right? :unsure: o_O:geek:
 
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Just in Chapter 8 but yeah, discussions with Ophelia as to how Sterling will still want more and managed to trick her, discussion with Brenna at the penthouse as to how he's literally what she wants, discussion with Tiff concerning the drugs Hunter used on Sterling to 'mutate' him...

Essentially, while Sterling is different and more 'caring' than Hunter who's totally rapey, Hunter still seems on his way to 'win' his game through Sterling, damn he's literally mutating/corrupting/molding him into what he wanted from the start.
 
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"A kinetic novel is the same visual novel with no variation, heading towards a pre-conceived ending where the player can't influence anything, being in the position of a passenger in the story."
So... Thanks for backing up my statement.
Your "quote" contradicts itself.

And hence no sandbox is even in the air here...
Sandbox elements/"sandbox"/"Open World" is more accurate than saying that a Kinetic Novel and Visual Novel are the same thing.
 

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"A kinetic novel is the same visual novel with no variation, heading towards a pre-conceived ending where the player can't influence anything, being in the position of a passenger in the story."
And hence no sandbox is even in the air here...
Compared to typical sandboxes, PV is definitely light on the exploration, but I still think it counts as a sandbox. The player has some choice on where to go, which can sometimes advance separate storylines at different rates. This can lead to different players witnessing certain scenes in a different order.

Just in case, can I ask if you've installed the patch? Apparently the game plays like a slideshow without it.
 

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As outlandish as this game is sometimes, even that might be jumping the shark a bit. My guess is she's going to end up being a bastard child of the Elder Annabelle that was given away, perhaps to hide it from Hunter. Which would make me think perhaps the Elder Annabelle was either shacking up with Drew or perhaps David? I guess we don't really know if the Elder Annabelle had the same...proclivities as the rest of the family. The question is, who is still alive that would be able to attest to any of that? I guess if Drew knew there was a possibility he had a child with his mother, his reaction might've been different when she showed up.
Interesting idea, but regarding how old the young Annabelle and Drew are looking, that would be also very improbable. I cannot remember any mentioning of their ages, but I guess Drew would have to have been about 8 years old, when he had impregnated his mother then. I guess, David would be a bit more plausible, because he was surely older than Drew.
But we will see what the dev has in mind...
 

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Interesting idea, but regarding how old the young Annabelle and Drew are looking, that would be also very improbable. I cannot remember any mentioning of their ages, but I guess Drew would have to have been about 8 years old, when he had impregnated his mother then. I guess, David would be a bit more plausible, because he was surely older than Drew.
But we will see what the dev has in mind...
Drew is likely only a couple years younger than Ophelia (who was born in 1983), so Drew may have been born in 1985. If so, then Drew would've been about 17 in 2002 (when Annabelle died), and is 34 in 2019 (when the game takes place).
 

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Obviously, the sandbox here is having a map to navigate around and that's it..... I don't think the mere presence of a map makes a game a sandbox.... It's not exactly a sandbox, I'm afraid it can't even be called a game.... A game should have gameplay, and if all you do in a "game" is choose who to watch pictures or animations with...
I don't like this game, neither externally nor internally...
A lot of game makers are trying to make their VN look like a game... By adding "sandbox elements"... As a result, it turns out that to watch the usual VN you have to click on the map to continue watching VN.... And it's infuriating... I hate VN and turn off this prefix in the advanced search when looking for a game.... And here I am looking for a game, not VN, sandbox, anal, ntr, good rating, etc... You start to "play" and it turns out that it is VN, not a sandbox, no ntr and in general there is no use of tags, because you do nothing in the game, just look.... And also that to advance in the story needs a certain number of times to perform the same actions ... Yeah.
 

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Obviously, the sandbox here is having a map to navigate around and that's it..... I don't think the mere presence of a map makes a game a sandbox.... It's not exactly a sandbox, I'm afraid it can't even be called a game.... A game should have gameplay, and if all you do in a "game" is choose who to watch pictures or animations with...
I don't like this game, neither externally nor internally...
A lot of game makers are trying to make their VN look like a game... By adding "sandbox elements"... As a result, it turns out that to watch the usual VN you have to click on the map to continue watching VN.... And it's infuriating... I hate VN and turn off this prefix in the advanced search when looking for a game.... And here I am looking for a game, not VN, sandbox, anal, ntr, good rating, etc... You start to "play" and it turns out that it is VN, not a sandbox, no ntr and in general there is no use of tags, because you do nothing in the game, just look.... And also that to advance in the story needs a certain number of times to perform the same actions ... Yeah.
Yeah but anyway who is your favorite character so far? Ophelia, right?
 
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Top 5 wishes that i think could realistically make it into the game :
- Sterling x Drew : with opt outs for those who don't want to try it all (game won't feel complete without it)
- Ophelia x Brenna x Sterling : Waited this pairing the whole game one scene is not enough lol
- Real orgy Sterling x Ophelia x Brenna x Lucia : logic would add catherine but I would prefer not to, she always kills the vibe
- Drew x Ophelia : again mandatory scene
- Ophelia x Cerberus : Brenna falling for Cerberus was really hot but she's naturally a slut. Would be even hotter to see Ophelia do it

Other fun pairings i'd like
- Top Kumiko giving bottom Ophelia a full nuru massage (and strap-on ending-)
- Kevin x Brenna, (some good old hate sex)
- Sterling and Drew double teaming someone and the girl completly falling for Drew (like Ophelia or Brenna)
- Amber and her dad
- Lucia x Cerberus (her embarassment kink would go through the roof)
- Ophelia going full dominant on Brenna or Lucia
 
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I downloaded PC Zip and extracted and opened with Joiplay patreon build but still can't get past the therapy session. And I get zero choices. What am I doing wrong? Caveat I'm playing on an Android phone.
 

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So... I was caught up to chapter 11 but lost my laptop to a power outage and some files got corrupted. As you can imagine my save included. I love this game but playing through all 11 chapters is a little too much for me. Can I get the save from anyone please?
 

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So... I was caught up to chapter 11 but lost my laptop to a power outage and some files got corrupted. As you can imagine my save included. I love this game but playing through all 11 chapters is a little too much for me. Can I get the save from anyone please?
If you want a Start of CH 12 save, here you go. If you want complete save just for the gallery, you can get it from the link to my FAQ in my sig. Just make sure you apply the patch in the front page to your game or it won't work properly like loading saves.
 

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Interesting idea, but regarding how old the young Annabelle and Drew are looking, that would be also very improbable. I cannot remember any mentioning of their ages, but I guess Drew would have to have been about 8 years old, when he had impregnated his mother then. I guess, David would be a bit more plausible, because he was surely older than Drew.
But we will see what the dev has in mind...
Drew is likely only a couple years younger than Ophelia (who was born in 1983), so Drew may have been born in 1985. If so, then Drew would've been about 17 in 2002 (when Annabelle died), and is 34 in 2019 (when the game takes place).
Yeah unfortunately it's entirely possible (if Annabelle had the same tendencies as Hunter and Nora). Both of them had apparently been having relations with Drew and Keira since they were around 13, so it would've been happening while Annabelle was still alive it seems. Unless I've got some wires crossed.
 
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