JohnSeeReally

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WWG made much more money when he had frequent shorter updates and what ifs. Once this update is released he'll be releasing epilogues every few weeks. The delay also caused a decrease in subs/money.

It makes no sense for him to sit on the update for months. Once the update drops it will likely have 1.5x the amount of content as last due to last chance. It'll be easy to check like every other update by seeing the amount of renders and animations in the new folders.

I think it's completely fine to criticize WWG for lack of communication and a last minute massive delay but saying he did it intentionally to profit makes no sense. He offered refunds for the month which a lot of people accepted.

Edit: You can look at a chart of his patreon earnings here. Post last chapter release in January 2024 it dropped to 2021 levels
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You just gave a perfect reason why he'd intentionally delay in your own graph, while saying it makes no sense. After the last chapter he had the largest and longest duration decline in earnings he's ever had, if we ignore the release week spikes. His earnings dipped to the lowest they had been in 3 years, if he is anticipating another decline (or an even bigger one with this being the final chapter) that is plenty of incentive to hold the release date. On top of that when developing a new game his first cycle time will likely grow even longer, needing to develop all new assets and a brand new story; which will likely lose more earnings. As well as losing players who were just dedicated to PV or NTR fans who would leave if his next project does end up being vanilla like he's suggested. There is plenty of monetary reason for him to want to extend this release and the release of the epilogues.

Add to it his odd, vague, and inconsistent communication it is 100% a plausible scenario.

The communication went from "I'm working on this non-stop, were at 95%"
to
"Actually, I wasn't working on it non-stop like I said before because of personal issues, so it will take 2+ more months"

I know a lot of you excuse the delays/communication as "he's just the worst of all time at predicting timelines" when it seems to me he's just flat out dishonest. Think whatever you want, I know my opinion. Just don't be shocked when his epilogues take way longer than he said previously, and he eventually announces he's no longer moving forward with his next game.

Time will tell who's right, I hope you are because he does make a good product, my personal opinion of WWG himself aside.
 

pinkie96

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You just gave a perfect reason why he'd intentionally delay in your own graph, while saying it makes no sense. After the last chapter he had the largest and longest duration decline in earnings he's ever had, if we ignore the release week spikes. His earnings dipped to the lowest they had been in 3 years, if he is anticipating another decline (or an even bigger one with this being the final chapter) that is plenty of incentive to hold the release date. On top of that when developing a new game his first cycle time will likely grow even longer, needing to develop all new assets and a brand new story; which will likely lose more earnings. As well as losing players who were just dedicated to PV or NTR fans who would leave if his next project does end up being vanilla like he's suggested. There is plenty of monetary reason for him to want to extend this release and the release of the epilogues.
The drop off after last update is due to him switching from what ifs and dream scenes to last chances. Extending the time period with no content is what caused the decrease.

Again he's already said epilogues will happen and what ifs are on the table while he works on the new game. If he were maximizing profits for the least amount of work he would've kept updates chapter 10's size and kept doing what ifs.

No one's giving up an extra $20k a year on purpose just to release a weak update that tanks support. And that extra $20K is assuming there would've been no growth if he kept updates small alongside what ifs.
 

Fayn Arawn

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After the last chapter he had the largest and longest duration decline in earnings he's ever had, if we ignore the release week spikes. His earnings dipped to the lowest they had been in 3 years, if he is anticipating another decline (or an even bigger one with this being the final chapter) that is plenty of incentive to hold the release date.
The drop off after last update is due to him switching from what ifs and dream scenes to last chances. Extending the time period with no content is what caused the decrease.
Until I looked at the graph, I hadn't realized that earnings had dropped while members hadn't, but it makes sense that some patrons downgraded their support tiers when the What Ifs and Dream Scenes stopped. WWG should infer that more frequent content will be more profitable. :unsure:
 

zer0c0ol

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guys I need some help..

did the game change? I dont have any points and i cant get to have sex with the sis and Ophelia at all.. its like the game is on rails
 
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Whabahow

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No. It's up to the patrons, like me, to decide if we want to continue supporting him. He could leave it open and we can choose to continue supporting him or not.

He's not forcing us to continue making payment. we are CHOOSING to continue supporting him. The reason he did the refund in march, was because he originally said release will be in march. so people may have signed up thinking they were going to get the game that month. so he gave out refunds in case anyone subbed specifically for that month to get a copy.

he owes us nothing after that.
This right here is the point that all the angry "he owes paying customers" people should pay attention of. He doesnt owe us anything, he isn't bound to give us something because we choose to support him with money. I didn't like the delay, especially when i thought it was literally about to drop, but he did offer refunds after he said it was going to drop and it didn't.

I chose to end my support at the end of last month, i feel like the $250 i'd already given him was enough at this time. Maybe you could say choosing to stop supporting him when he's experiencing quite serious sounding problems is a bit scummy, but fundamentally i don't owe him anything, just like he doesn't owe me anything. When the update does drop, i will re subscribe at top tier so i can get my grubby mitts on it straight away.
 

BlastMonk

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There are three possibilities here

1. Since he reached 93% maybe when he reached near the end, he wasn't satisfied by it and wanted to add more content.

1a. But this is unlikely because even though he has shown a teaser of various animations in chapter 3, they all should be from the 93% that he has already worked on because if he had made any new content whatsoever he wouldn't have delivered a bunch of different animations instead he would have shown the work that he have done specifically, like he always did before that 30th march post.

2. He really had RL issues like he said and still haven't got himself out of those issues and because of those issues he isn't really working much on the game (refer to 1a) and prolonging the time to release to give himself time to resolve those issues because releasing mean going head on into the prologues again.

3. He has lost his fire and just prolonging the release to milk out of this project as much as he can.
4. He's a guy that has spent mutiple years working with these characters as his job. Constantly thinking about what they would say, late and night thinking what their personality and mindset is, what they're going to say and being a apart of his day to day life for years and years and years. And being an autist (there are no non-autistic wegdevs) he's dragging his feet on being done with them since after the last update they are all essentiality dying as he moves on to another game.
 

Berlioz-7

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Regarding the epilogues coming does this mean there will be chapter 13 then epilogues later on like Chasing Sunsets or is chapter 13 the end and the epilogues?
 
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Virpgoil

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Regarding the epilogues coming does this mean there will be chapter 13 then epilogues later on like Chasing Sunsets or is chapter 13 the end and the epilogues?
He said there will probably be 5 more separate epilogues after this final chapter release. He hopes each epilogue for each girl only takes a month for him to push out.
 
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