That was brillant. Favorite WI so far.
Yeah, grind will never save your girls from the madre.
Yeah, grind will never save your girls from the madre.
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great game!
Nobody wants NTR anyway...
Nobody wants NTR anyway...
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In light of the recent what if, assuming at least the characterizations are canon, I have to amend my previous statement, Hunter's sexism, while still present and ingrained within Ophelia after the drugs, doesn't seem to carry over to his daughter becoming the Goddess of Sex, so he's an equal opportunity bastard when it comes to a scion.
However, the what if STILL implies he doesn't consider Drew a worthy scion, both when he was trying to mold Sterling into it in canon, and in his admission that he created the drug to make a scion, specifically. How much is this relevant to the main plot? Who knows, but it is food for thoughts.
Also while her mind is indeed being altered by the drugs and by apparently the unborn son who fused with her, acting as a channel for the god of sex so to speak, Ophelia demostrates that, indeed, she is her father's daughter in her approach to fucking women, using violent and direct means to fuck them specifically. She is forcing herself on the ones who aren't throwing themselves at her if you think about it, so there's that.
I guess Sterling, while losing his family and friend circle, still got an house out of it, and Ophelia does mention how he moved so he could fuck women without her fucking them, so hey, there is a silver lining for him, he is still a fairly attractive man, he just needs to never have contact with his mother again.
The women's personality being unaltered while still becoming obsessed with Ophelia might suggest this isn't a continuation of the in game theme of destruction of a woman identity in bad ending compared to her blossoming under Sterling, so to speak, but it actually is given the way their relationships are instead destroyed.
Like, is Ophelia planning to stick around every family she conquers? The way Hunter is setting it up, she comes, she sees, she conquers, and then she leaves, meaning all those broken families are now suffering that same vaccum of power with her absence.
Is he planning to swoop in? No, they are still psychosexually obsessed with Ophelia, that can't work either, and while they do mention how these women are "still themsleves," there is a pretty big caveat there in "as long as they had their ophelia fix."
The au doesn't explore any of these consequences unfortunately, unlike the other "Hunter finds a Scion" AU in what if 3 where they are at least mentioned in passing, but it does expand on my previous theory on how the pregnancies here aren't just a fetish but a specific claim by the male characters on the female ones, one of conquest as their body are drained of their energies by the parassite within and shit like that.
All in all, a fairly interesting what if honestly, which somewhat explored some of the dynamics within the group, if a tad lacking in favour of the wider power fantasy scenario. People who are angry about it should, like, just not read it honestly, maybe complain about it a bit but this is ultimately a patreon's choice which I guess won a pool, me myself have been bummed out by a concept as trite as "hunter and brenna live in the same room now" winning over "Island of Futa Amazons" honestly.
I'm not into the whole "dude gets cucked" thing honestly, and I was half expecting while Ophelia was fucking Aliza for Sterling to fuck Ophelia in turn, thus shifting the story into a more even "Ophelia has a Harem, but Sterling still has his mother" scenario, but I understand how that might not be the requester's fetish and shit, and I'll respect that. Dude paid money and won the poll, which is more than most people here can say, and I'll have to tip my hat to that.
I guess this was 7/10 for story, 9/10 for meta commentary, 4/10 for realism, 10/10 for references.
(That said, can anyone tell me what the "missing" what ifs that never won the polls were? I know of a couple of them like the amazon futa island, anything else? I'm hoping for one day getting a "the girls unionize" AU where they just straight up unionize and start using Sterling as a shared sex toy, ending with Hunter looking on in Horror as he decides to flee the country rather than mess with forces even he can't survive, as a parallel to how the lone wolf can be easily killed by a single hunter, but a pack can overcome them so to speak).
However, the what if STILL implies he doesn't consider Drew a worthy scion, both when he was trying to mold Sterling into it in canon, and in his admission that he created the drug to make a scion, specifically. How much is this relevant to the main plot? Who knows, but it is food for thoughts.
Also while her mind is indeed being altered by the drugs and by apparently the unborn son who fused with her, acting as a channel for the god of sex so to speak, Ophelia demostrates that, indeed, she is her father's daughter in her approach to fucking women, using violent and direct means to fuck them specifically. She is forcing herself on the ones who aren't throwing themselves at her if you think about it, so there's that.
I guess Sterling, while losing his family and friend circle, still got an house out of it, and Ophelia does mention how he moved so he could fuck women without her fucking them, so hey, there is a silver lining for him, he is still a fairly attractive man, he just needs to never have contact with his mother again.
The women's personality being unaltered while still becoming obsessed with Ophelia might suggest this isn't a continuation of the in game theme of destruction of a woman identity in bad ending compared to her blossoming under Sterling, so to speak, but it actually is given the way their relationships are instead destroyed.
Like, is Ophelia planning to stick around every family she conquers? The way Hunter is setting it up, she comes, she sees, she conquers, and then she leaves, meaning all those broken families are now suffering that same vaccum of power with her absence.
Is he planning to swoop in? No, they are still psychosexually obsessed with Ophelia, that can't work either, and while they do mention how these women are "still themsleves," there is a pretty big caveat there in "as long as they had their ophelia fix."
The au doesn't explore any of these consequences unfortunately, unlike the other "Hunter finds a Scion" AU in what if 3 where they are at least mentioned in passing, but it does expand on my previous theory on how the pregnancies here aren't just a fetish but a specific claim by the male characters on the female ones, one of conquest as their body are drained of their energies by the parassite within and shit like that.
All in all, a fairly interesting what if honestly, which somewhat explored some of the dynamics within the group, if a tad lacking in favour of the wider power fantasy scenario. People who are angry about it should, like, just not read it honestly, maybe complain about it a bit but this is ultimately a patreon's choice which I guess won a pool, me myself have been bummed out by a concept as trite as "hunter and brenna live in the same room now" winning over "Island of Futa Amazons" honestly.
I'm not into the whole "dude gets cucked" thing honestly, and I was half expecting while Ophelia was fucking Aliza for Sterling to fuck Ophelia in turn, thus shifting the story into a more even "Ophelia has a Harem, but Sterling still has his mother" scenario, but I understand how that might not be the requester's fetish and shit, and I'll respect that. Dude paid money and won the poll, which is more than most people here can say, and I'll have to tip my hat to that.
I guess this was 7/10 for story, 9/10 for meta commentary, 4/10 for realism, 10/10 for references.
(That said, can anyone tell me what the "missing" what ifs that never won the polls were? I know of a couple of them like the amazon futa island, anything else? I'm hoping for one day getting a "the girls unionize" AU where they just straight up unionize and start using Sterling as a shared sex toy, ending with Hunter looking on in Horror as he decides to flee the country rather than mess with forces even he can't survive, as a parallel to how the lone wolf can be easily killed by a single hunter, but a pack can overcome them so to speak).
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LMAO, Big Brother, Foot of the Mountains, Being a Dik. Jill and Isabella's expressions are fantastic.
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The thing is the games that have ntr in it, that can be disabled, usually get clearly noted as so, just like it is in this one. I've never seen anyone get mad that a game had ntr in it that can be disabled, however people throw a fit in here everytime they get notified, and open the thread and its the ntr focused* side* game*.
I agree that people shouldn't complain at this point, but claiming to not get it is weird, its pretty obvious why people are upset.
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I mean, I have no horse in this race but I feel like between straight up NTR and futanari/trans/intersex women in a vanilla/harem capacity I'll take the second any time, especially since NTR usually does involve some major non-con/dub-con issues on the female character's part, and is speficially done from the POV of the cucked dude rather than, like, normal cheating which is usually more consensual on the woman's part and done through her viewpoint.
Like, it's a woman with a dick, get over it, does anyone here have any idea how popular trans porn alone is, people want to fuck them/want to get fucked by them, lots of fucking people if you look at the charts, the main issue here should be, like, how the self insert character is "cucked" by the woman with a dick instead, which is not dissimilar to him getting cucked by any other character getting a magical mind control dick, Ophelia being the one doing it is only topycal due to her characterization within the game itself and her taunts to Sterling during the unfortunately short lived Femdom section where she claims she would fuck all his fuck buddies if she had a dick just to spite him.
I guess the idea that this is, like, NTR Involving a woman with a dick is what making people feel more conscious, especially given the themes of mind control and the evident "she is far better than him" message, is what's making everyone go spare over it, in which case, again, if you don't like it don't read the what if? It's non canon and it's entirely based on the women being mind controlled too so you can't even say "well but that means they might cheat too" yeah if you had a mind controlling magical dick come on, you can't even go "well, this is happening in some alternate universe tho" in one alternate universe Catherine went mad and set the house on fire, I don't see people going wild over it because it turns her into a serial killer for killing her whole family (which is more of a recurring trait for her since that would be the SECOND bad end/what if where she kills someone).
Like, it's a woman with a dick, get over it, does anyone here have any idea how popular trans porn alone is, people want to fuck them/want to get fucked by them, lots of fucking people if you look at the charts, the main issue here should be, like, how the self insert character is "cucked" by the woman with a dick instead, which is not dissimilar to him getting cucked by any other character getting a magical mind control dick, Ophelia being the one doing it is only topycal due to her characterization within the game itself and her taunts to Sterling during the unfortunately short lived Femdom section where she claims she would fuck all his fuck buddies if she had a dick just to spite him.
I guess the idea that this is, like, NTR Involving a woman with a dick is what making people feel more conscious, especially given the themes of mind control and the evident "she is far better than him" message, is what's making everyone go spare over it, in which case, again, if you don't like it don't read the what if? It's non canon and it's entirely based on the women being mind controlled too so you can't even say "well but that means they might cheat too" yeah if you had a mind controlling magical dick come on, you can't even go "well, this is happening in some alternate universe tho" in one alternate universe Catherine went mad and set the house on fire, I don't see people going wild over it because it turns her into a serial killer for killing her whole family (which is more of a recurring trait for her since that would be the SECOND bad end/what if where she kills someone).
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to many bugs the main ones are clicking the robot to see whats left gives a error and when you click on the mom outside reading her book gives a error and when brenna has a friend over
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I feel the same with pregnancy but I never complained about it. It could be worse, you could be an Anti ntr person having to see 7 what ifs.
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7 What Ifs, What If 3 is straight up cult harem ending for the MC, no NTR there, at least not if you identify as Sterling of course, also some of the what ifs that didn't win the polls apparently also didn't have NTR in it, like the "Brenna becomes the Dea del Sesso" one (which would have sent my theory that is dependant on the feet thing to the trash since she didn't develop that mutation) which would have comported a dual Harem with Bisexual Brenna (Bienna?), Sterling as the second in comand, and then the rest of the Harem.I feel the same with pregnancy but I never complained about it. It could be worse, you could be an Anti ntr person having to see 8 what ifs.
Honestly, the main compliant anti-ntr people should have is how certain what ifs win other what ifs in polls, because apparently NTR people have the money and votes in this conversation with the author, not non-ntr ones.
Dude... there were people complaining here because there was NTR on the game even after it was stated to be a fail state AND after a switch to turn it off got implemented so if you've never seen someone get upset over that you either haven't read the whole thread here OR those messages got deleted because complaining about NTR was banned on this thread... because despite being properly warned and shown that you can turn it off they kept complaining.
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Bella and Jill? Wohoo.
"Avengers: Endgame is the most ambitious crossover of all time"
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This is often the complaint on this forum, but it's taken in stride among the supporters on Patreon & Discord. There are actually many more suggestions that don't even make it to the final poll. Usually people are somewhat disappointed when their suggestions don't win, but are not overly upset about whichever ones do win.
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