Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]
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Hey guys, there is a Status Update on Patreon and i want to share here so you guys can understand the delay. It can't be any clearer that the delay is all patreons fault.
TLDR; Patreon is forcing WWG to go over the game and remove all Incest content that may have slipped through, all content that somehow "implies" incest and any blackmail or non-con. He then has to submit a build to their liking and they have to green light it. This is going to cause a delay and he hopes for a very early June release.
Back in January, the Patreon Trust & Safety team contacted me with the news that my project was against Patreon's guidelines for acceptable content. When asked what content was against their TOS, they listed the What If series. Since I couldn't alter those What Ifs without butchering them, I told Patreon that I'd remove the offending content. The Trust & Safety team then asked what content I'd be providing. I told them about the main game, Power Vacuum. I provided them a link and they didn't get back to me for four months.
Which brings us to last week when they finally got back to me(yes, four months later) to tell me that much of Power Vacuum is against their TOS. If you're familiar with Patreon's guidelines, you'd know that incest isn't allowed. But according to Patreon's Trust & Safety team, even implications of incest aren't allowed. Dialogue such as "You're like a sister to me." or "We're like a family." are now against the TOS. Of course, blackmail and non-consent content were also brought up.
So now, I have to comb through all of Power Vacuum's dialogue for anything that breaks Patreon's wide reaching TOS. I will also have to disable all NTR content in the Patreon version of the game. I'll still be making the same amount of NTR content but NTR will be set to "off" by default in Power Vacuum.
Having to rebuild the game will regrettably lead to a delay for Chapter 10. My initial schedule had me releasing at the end of May, but with how things are going with Patreon, I'm hesitant to give a date. With how open ended their TOS has become, I fear there may be a chance they could reject my first rebuild. Ideally, I can get the rebuild approved and the update out before June 7th. I'm sorry, I know it's been a long wait for Chapter 10 but hopefully it won't be much longer.
For everyone that upgraded their pledge in anticipation of a May release, you can lower/cancel your pledge in June and still get the perks you had in May. When the beta or official release is out, just message me on Patreon and I will send you the appropriate links.
If you have questions, I'd appreciate it if you could take them to the Power Vacuum Discord.
TLDR; Patreon is forcing WWG to go over the game and remove all Incest content that may have slipped through, all content that somehow "implies" incest and any blackmail or non-con. He then has to submit a build to their liking and they have to green light it. This is going to cause a delay and he hopes for a very early June release.
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Back in January, the Patreon Trust & Safety team contacted me with the news that my project was against Patreon's guidelines for acceptable content. When asked what content was against their TOS, they listed the What If series. Since I couldn't alter those What Ifs without butchering them, I told Patreon that I'd remove the offending content. The Trust & Safety team then asked what content I'd be providing. I told them about the main game, Power Vacuum. I provided them a link and they didn't get back to me for four months.
Which brings us to last week when they finally got back to me(yes, four months later) to tell me that much of Power Vacuum is against their TOS. If you're familiar with Patreon's guidelines, you'd know that incest isn't allowed. But according to Patreon's Trust & Safety team, even implications of incest aren't allowed. Dialogue such as "You're like a sister to me." or "We're like a family." are now against the TOS. Of course, blackmail and non-consent content were also brought up.
So now, I have to comb through all of Power Vacuum's dialogue for anything that breaks Patreon's wide reaching TOS. I will also have to disable all NTR content in the Patreon version of the game. I'll still be making the same amount of NTR content but NTR will be set to "off" by default in Power Vacuum.
Having to rebuild the game will regrettably lead to a delay for Chapter 10. My initial schedule had me releasing at the end of May, but with how things are going with Patreon, I'm hesitant to give a date. With how open ended their TOS has become, I fear there may be a chance they could reject my first rebuild. Ideally, I can get the rebuild approved and the update out before June 7th. I'm sorry, I know it's been a long wait for Chapter 10 but hopefully it won't be much longer.
For everyone that upgraded their pledge in anticipation of a May release, you can lower/cancel your pledge in June and still get the perks you had in May. When the beta or official release is out, just message me on Patreon and I will send you the appropriate links.
If you have questions, I'd appreciate it if you could take them to the Power Vacuum Discord.
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Honestly wasn't really expecting may even though that's what he said. Every update on this site always seems to get delayed at least a week or two for whatever reason
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I think it was going to make the May update. He's been on top of his releases.
- May 24, 2019
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I can't decide whether it's hypocritical or simply ironic that anti-NTR crusaders and their attacks on this game risk it being taken off Patreon, which would deprive everyone else of these characters. "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster."
Hopefully WWG doesn't have to wait for a full review of the new build before releasing it?
Hopefully WWG doesn't have to wait for a full review of the new build before releasing it?
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That's exactly what i think. They reported it for the NTR and Hunter and are risking deleting the entire game. They were thinking "Let me report this to patreon and make this game better for everyone, because i hate ntr!", probably.
- Apr 2, 2018
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Wouldn't be the first time this forum mass reported a game on patreon and ruined it for everyone.
Wait a moment, NTR is against Patreon rules?? shit this system just keeps getting more and more fascist, who is dictating those rules? which culture?
seen his situation i think it will be really hard to make a game that can be approved by patreon tos...
my advice would be to find another host.
my advice would be to find another host.
- May 24, 2019
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. NTR merely offended whomever reported the game to Patreon, but it was the incest and non-consent that were against their rules.
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Subscribstar anyone? this is why I refuse to support through patreon.
- Jun 12, 2020
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Fair Enough, maybe I'm too sleep deprived right now, but it sounded like NTR was the complaint.
- May 24, 2019
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I didn't think your spelling, grammar, and punctuation could get any worse. We'll never know though, once this gets deleted.
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not NTR directly, but Hunter and his methods. Hunter has to use more "persuasive" methods and Patreon doesn't like Non-con. So Hunters sex scene aren't allowed.
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So that's why a lot of the devs seem to be switching to SubscribeStar... makes sense.
It's not NTR that's against Patreon rules, it's the methods that Hunter uses to initiate ntr. Pretty much every Hunter scene involves the girls being heavily drugged to the point where Brenna and Cathrine thought he was Sterling. That's considered rape which is against the guidelines.
Read the previous page. It was going to be this month but because of Patreon it's getting delayed to early june