Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

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On a completely different note... I know that's a bit premature to ask but has WWG mentioned what their plans are after PV has been completed (based on their words, the end of the game is not that far)? I'm not implying anything, just being curious.
 
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SuddenReal said:
I'm sorry, but what the actual fuck? What exactly do you expect? Do you want the dev to stop communicating anything about the game?

"So, when does the next update come out?"
"Oh, we don't know. The Dev doesn't give any dates, just in case he doesn't make it."
"Yeah, but he should have a rough idea about when it might be ready?"
"Oh, probably, but he won't say."
"Well, how far along is he? We might have an estimate."
"He doesn't give any progress, just so we don't get our hopes up."
"I'm sorry, what?"
"Yeah, he just drops it out of the blue without any word and then, well, we wait for the next update..."
"So... what happens if he abbandons it?"
"We'd never know..."

There's a reason Icstor doesn't give dates. It's because he doesn't want people to know he's slacking off. It's well known by his fans he gets bored of the games he makes. He starts out all fresh and gun-ho, but he quickly burns out and then can't be bothered with it. If someone gives a timeframe, you know he's working towards it, but if a dev gives nothing, you don't know if he's actually doing work or if he's just watching Netflix instead.
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What a fucking reach. You guys are the worst at having a conversation without going off the deep end, and making every conversation convoluted. Where did I say not to give any updates? I specifically said percentage, because that gives you a very good idea how far along they are. You can give plenty of updates, real ease teasers, tell how it’s going, etc. without saying a day or a month. If you say a day or week or month, and miss it multiple times; you will be criticized and some people will get frustrated.

Giving a timeframe doesn’t prove anything either as far as “slacking off”, WWG could very well not work a day and watch Netflix like you said and none of us would have the slightest clue.And that’s perfectly fine, if he wants to do that. If he did every single update the exact same way he does without mentioning a month, week, or day; then no one would be able complain about missing anything. That’s the point.
 
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dartred said:
This. May as well stop giving us teasers too or we might put together how close he is to release.
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This is such a reach. I hate commenting on here cause you guys always reach for shit like this. He could do everything the exact same without saying a day, week, or month; then these frustrated people criticizing him would have zero argument and you wouldn’t be here arguing with everyone searching for posts from October.
 
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john984 said:
Exactly, he said the weekend that means it can be released at 23:59 on Sunday and still be the weekend
Let's be patient
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Before that he said mid February, and before that January. That’s what the dude earlier was complaining about I think, not the weekend plan. Looked like he is now frustrated and expecting this estimate to be missing as well. The guy should post everything the exact same with no dates and this goes away.
 
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uscmiller22 said:
What a fucking reach. You guys are the worst at having a conversation without going off the deep end, and making every conversation convoluted. Where did I say not to give any updates? I specifically said percentage, because that gives you a very good idea how far along they are.
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I don't mind using percentages but that can have its own problems, e.g. "he did 15% each month for several months, but this month he only did 5%, what the hell?!"

There's no perfect way to estimate completion. That's why it's called an estimate. Let's all relax. :cool:
 
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GolCK said:
dont take Icstor as example :p
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I meant Incenton, I always get their names backwards. They give biweekly or monthly progress updates similar to WWG, but they also have a progress bar always posted. That shows the percentage of completion on each games update as well as bullet points showing what they are working on. Renders 55% writing 15% etc.
 
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Fayn Arawn said:
I don't mind using percentages but that can have its own problems, e.g. "he did 15% each month for several months, but this month he only did 5%, what the hell?!"

There's no perfect way to estimate completion. That's why it's called an estimate. Let's all relax. :cool:
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Correct, but at that point it is just fan interpretation and speculation which will exist no matter what. Doing something like Caribdis or Inceton (didn’t mean Icstor), gives fans a gauge of progress, let’s them get updates, and a rough idea of how things are going; without getting them excited and attached to a certain timeframe.
If you give people a timeframe even as an estimate and miss, they’ll get frustrated. It’s the same with movies, tv, triple A games, even day to day 9-5 business. That’s all I’m saying and it annoys the crap out of me when these guys always take what you say and jump into left field with a random argument.
 
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I guess, this is one of the most alive forum ever. Whether we r saying how good this game is or else we are fighting about the game release date. Memes can seen every once in a while, the dev comes here to reply and occasionally fight some mug... Every other day I visit this forum and its great!
 
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uscmiller22 said:
Where did I say not to give any updates? I specifically said percentage, because that gives you a very good idea how far along they are.
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Well, with that in mind, this sentence is indeed different from when I first read it. But you have to admit…
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Dude just needs to stop saying any timeframe, use a percentage update or something
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But let’s be honest, it’s not like WWG gives a solid date right from the start. The only date he gives is when we get closer to release. And even with a percentage bar there will be complaints about how long it takes. No system is fool proof.
 
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