Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[jond2760]

I, too, am eager for this release, then another release then a quick break, and then another. I share your pain and excitement. I feel you, homie. I feel you.

 

[milfkiller]

But, we're in the homestretch. I plan to have Chapter Eleven out by next weekend say by dev...
for me that is a promise...pls dont broke it

 

[milfkiller]

Yeah, i'm remembering a patreon thing that made him re-release a chapter. I guess that was chapter 10. Any proof of the old release is erased to keep patreon happy, so you're probably right. Though i want to say CH 10 took 7 months, but that post is gone too. So 1 month increase for every release being 50% larger then the last is still good in comparison.

I know it won't make the impatient happy, but if CH 12 comes out to 9 months wait time but 50% bigger then CH 11, the trade off is statistically good. Though people won't like waiting.

6 month is enough...why not wait for 2 years?

 

[Alexbt]

It's 4: 00 a. m. Washington time, so I believe there's still a chance of an update today.

 

[wz6223879]

waiting for a long time

 

[HanBoston]

waiting for a long time

well...only 3 days left before February end

 

[milfkiller]

well...only 3 days left before February end

maybe next month...another month

 

[Alexbt]

I dont think its the waiting that people dont like, but the missing deadlines. He is a great dev, i wish he was a bit more pessimistic with the dates so that he delivers early or on time.

Agreed, as I said earlier, an uncertain date is the biggest test of patience and the biggest blow to enthusiasm is blowing us off, as CDPR did with the release of Cyberpunk 2077, in which case people are more likely to accept a later date that can be achieved.

 

[Dogorti]

Jeez, i never understand people who complain about waiting for updates it's as if they have nothing else to play or do, many of them aren't even subscribed to patreons so they don't lose anything waiting, plus each update of this game is better and bigger so it's worth the wait

and as for the missed deadlines, we have to understand that we are all human including the devs, they can be wrong and they will probably have their own problems irl, so I don't judge

 

[Hained]

IDk why some of you so angry about updates I rather wait longer and have a perfect game than play a "bug"ggy game with zero joy.

 

[milfkiller]

IDk why some of you so angry about updates I rather wait longer and have a perfect game than play a "bug"ggy game with zero joy.

hope so

 

[LovesReD]

I wonder if Dev will do us a favor while it's the weekend

 

[uscmiller22]

"Looking like" is a weak promise, but yeah. That prediction was made in October. Way before he could have honed in on how close a release would actually be.

I get he’s your favorite and you’ll always defend him, but he is the one saying a timeframe and missing it. It’s normal for that to frustrate people. He’s said so many times he hates giving dates for that very reason, and still turns around and gives date ranges. Dude just needs to stop saying any timeframe, use a percentage update or something and leave everything ambiguous. IE: Caribidis, Icstor, etc. If you give people hope and miss that, it’s going to let them down. I don’t personally care, I have a backlog of way too many games, but I get the frustration.

 

[TGafy]

I get he’s your favorite and you’ll always defend him, but he is the one saying a timeframe and missing it. It’s normal for that to frustrate people. He’s said so many times he hates giving dates for that very reason, and still turns around and gives date ranges. Dude just needs to stop saying any timeframe, use a percentage update or something and leave everything ambiguous. IE: Caribidis, Icstor, etc. If you give people hope and miss that, it’s going to let them down. I don’t personally care, I have a backlog of way too many games, but I get the frustration.

There's a difference between giving an estimated date and a definite date. I don't see any promise being broken. For those that feel frustrated, I recommend: ANY OTHER GAME! It's better than sitting in front of the screen hitting refresh every ten seconds hoping that the released dropped.

 

[SuddenReal]

He’s said so many times he hates giving dates for that very reason, and still turns around and gives date ranges.

I'm sorry, but what the actual fuck? What exactly do you expect? Do you want the dev to stop communicating anything about the game?

"So, when does the next update come out?"
"Oh, we don't know. The Dev doesn't give any dates, just in case he doesn't make it."
"Yeah, but he should have a rough idea about when it might be ready?"
"Oh, probably, but he won't say."
"Well, how far along is he? We might have an estimate."
"He doesn't give any progress, just so we don't get our hopes up."
"I'm sorry, what?"
"Yeah, he just drops it out of the blue without any word and then, well, we wait for the next update..."
"So... what happens if he abbandons it?"
"We'd never know..."

There's a reason Icstor doesn't give dates. It's because he doesn't want people to know he's slacking off. It's well known by his fans he gets bored of the games he makes. He starts out all fresh and gun-ho, but he quickly burns out and then can't be bothered with it. If someone gives a timeframe, you know he's working towards it, but if a dev gives nothing, you don't know if he's actually doing work or if he's just watching Netflix instead.

 

[GolCK]

I'm sorry, but what the actual fuck? What exactly do you expect? Do you want the dev to stop communicating anything about the game?

"So, when does the next update come out?"
"Oh, we don't know. The Dev doesn't give any dates, just in case he doesn't make it."
"Yeah, but he should have a rough idea about when it might be ready?"
"Oh, probably, but he won't say."
"Well, how far along is he? We might have an estimate."
"He doesn't give any progress, just so we don't get our hopes up."
"I'm sorry, what?"
"Yeah, he just drops it out of the blue without any word and then, well, we wait for the next update..."
"So... what happens if he abbandons it?"
"We'd never know..."

There's a reason Icstor doesn't give dates. It's because he doesn't want people to know he's slacking off. It's well known by his fans he gets bored of the games he makes. He starts out all fresh and gun-ho, but he quickly burns out and then can't be bothered with it. If someone gives a timeframe, you know he's working towards it, but if a dev gives nothing, you don't know if he's actually doing work or if he's just watching Netflix instead.

dont take Icstor as example

 

[dartred]

I'm sorry, but what the actual fuck? What exactly do you expect? Do you want the dev to stop communicating anything about the game?

"So, when does the next update come out?"
"Oh, we don't know. The Dev doesn't give any dates, just in case he doesn't make it."
"Yeah, but he should have a rough idea about when it might be ready?"
"Oh, probably, but he won't say."
"Well, how far along is he? We might have an estimate."
"He doesn't give any progress, just so we don't get our hopes up."
"I'm sorry, what?"
"Yeah, he just drops it out of the blue without any word and then, well, we wait for the next update..."
"So... what happens if he abbandons it?"
"We'd never know..."

There's a reason Icstor doesn't give dates. It's because he doesn't want people to know he's slacking off. It's well known by his fans he gets bored of the games he makes. He starts out all fresh and gun-ho, but he quickly burns out and then can't be bothered with it. If someone gives a timeframe, you know he's working towards it, but if a dev gives nothing, you don't know if he's actually doing work or if he's just watching Netflix instead.

This. May as well stop giving us teasers too or we might put together how close he is to release.

 

[john984]

There's a difference between giving an estimated date and a definite date. I don't see any promise being broken. For those that feel frustrated, I recommend: ANY OTHER GAME! It's better than sitting in front of the screen hitting refresh every ten seconds hoping that the released dropped.

Exactly, he said the weekend that means it can be released at 23:59 on Sunday and still be the weekend
Let's be patient

 

[gija]

On a completely different note... I know that's a bit premature to ask but has WWG mentioned what their plans are after PV has been completed (based on their words, the end of the game is not that far)? I'm not implying anything, just being curious.

 

[uscmiller22]

I'm sorry, but what the actual fuck? What exactly do you expect? Do you want the dev to stop communicating anything about the game?

"So, when does the next update come out?"
"Oh, we don't know. The Dev doesn't give any dates, just in case he doesn't make it."
"Yeah, but he should have a rough idea about when it might be ready?"
"Oh, probably, but he won't say."
"Well, how far along is he? We might have an estimate."
"He doesn't give any progress, just so we don't get our hopes up."
"I'm sorry, what?"
"Yeah, he just drops it out of the blue without any word and then, well, we wait for the next update..."
"So... what happens if he abbandons it?"
"We'd never know..."

There's a reason Icstor doesn't give dates. It's because he doesn't want people to know he's slacking off. It's well known by his fans he gets bored of the games he makes. He starts out all fresh and gun-ho, but he quickly burns out and then can't be bothered with it. If someone gives a timeframe, you know he's working towards it, but if a dev gives nothing, you don't know if he's actually doing work or if he's just watching Netflix instead.

What a fucking reach. You guys are the worst at having a conversation without going off the deep end, and making every conversation convoluted. Where did I say not to give any updates? I specifically said percentage, because that gives you a very good idea how far along they are. You can give plenty of updates, real ease teasers, tell how it’s going, etc. without saying a day or a month. If you say a day or week or month, and miss it multiple times; you will be criticized and some people will get frustrated.

Giving a timeframe doesn’t prove anything either as far as “slacking off”, WWG could very well not work a day and watch Netflix like you said and none of us would have the slightest clue.And that’s perfectly fine, if he wants to do that. If he did every single update the exact same way he does without mentioning a month, week, or day; then no one would be able complain about missing anything. That’s the point.