yourmomma

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I get he’s your favorite and you’ll always defend him, but he is the one saying a timeframe and missing it. It’s normal for that to frustrate people. He’s said so many times he hates giving dates for that very reason, and still turns around and gives date ranges. Dude just needs to stop saying any timeframe, use a percentage update or something and leave everything ambiguous. IE: Caribidis, Icstor, etc. If you give people hope and miss that, it’s going to let them down. I don’t personally care, I have a backlog of way too many games, but I get the frustration.
He is being ambiguous. You guys are the ones making absolutes out of ambiguity in your sexually frusterated impatience. Put your dick back in your pants and relax.
If he doesn't give any predictions you guys complain. If he does you guys complain.
You people are ridiculous.
 

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My advice to people waiting.

1) Have a backlog of other games to play. It hurts way less to have one game take a while if you have 3 other games to play. And trust me there are a lot of games.

2) Use dev estimates as rough guides for when to check for updates. But set reasonable expectations.

If there's no word, check monthly for word.
If there's an estimate around a given month, check weekly around the estimate date.
If there's and when the dev says "this weekend" check daily. But expecting any hard line to be met is just not realistic.

Basically, should I be checking monthly, weekly, or daily, with the information given. While understanding that set backs happen all the time.

So the dev gave a specific day, so I'll be checking on that day several times. But before that point, checking hourly just isn't useful.
 

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Changing Subject a second: Are we ever going to get a continuation to the DND arc or was that a one time deal? I'd think a Rebecca Catherine Sterling Amber DnD session to "mend their friendships" or shit like that could potentially be really interesting to see.

Especially since that would allow Rebecca to fuck beast-folk and monsters in the NTR endings without committing actual bestiality since she's a druid and they'd be able to pass the Harkness Monster Fucker Test (Is it sapient, can it comunicate consent, is it of age for its species?)
 
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Changing Subject a second: Are we ever going to get a continuation to the DND arc or was that a one time deal? I'd think a Rebecca Catherine Sterling Amber DnD session to "mend their friendships" or shit like that could potentially be really interesting to see.

Especially since that would allow Rebecca to fuck beast-folk and monsters in the NTR endings without committing actual bestiality since she's a druid and they'd be able to pass the Harkness Monster Fucker Test (Is it sapient, can it comunicate consent, is it of age for its species?)
I can kind of remember the dev saying that he would love to make another D&D sesh but that the plot had moved WAY past that or something like that.
 

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DnD what if talk has been pretty popular. If we ever get what ifs after PV is finished, i can see it winning. I don't think it's been suggested before though, only talked about.
 
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uscmiller22

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Well, with that in mind, this sentence is indeed different from when I first read it. But you have to admit…

But let’s be honest, it’s not like WWG gives a solid date right from the start. The only date he gives is when we get closer to release. And even with a percentage bar there will be complaints about how long it takes. No system is fool proof.
The difference is that anyone complaining would just be fans making assumptions and predictions. That’s much different than him giving timeframes himself and missing them. He’s said so many times he hates dates for that reason, I don’t get why he hasn’t shifted to some other method of communicating progress.
 

uscmiller22

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He is being ambiguous. You guys are the ones making absolutes out of ambiguity in your sexually frusterated impatience. Put your dick back in your pants and relax.
If he doesn't give any predictions you guys complain. If he does you guys complain.
You people are ridiculous.
First off I already said I don’t care how long he takes cause I have a backlog of games, the guy this started around also wasn’t complaining about how long it’s taking.
It came from WWG saying dates and missing them. He said looking like January, making people think January and that didn’t happen. He said mid-February, and that didn’t happen. The original commenter said that’s making him lose faith in the posted estimates. So why give date ranges and date estimates to get peoples hopes up?
 

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First off I already said I don’t care how long he takes cause I have a backlog of games, the guy this started around also wasn’t complaining about how long it’s taking.
It came from WWG saying dates and missing them. He said looking like January, making people think January and that didn’t happen. He said mid-February, and that didn’t happen. The original commenter said that’s making him lose faith in the posted estimates. So why give date ranges and date estimates to get peoples hopes up?
I think you've made your point several times now.

Maybe WWG gives rough dates because his patrons want to know? As one of those patrons, I'm only slightly disappointed by the delay. Anyone else who "gets their hopes up" doesn't really matter if they're not supporting.

WWG has been very communicative, posting previews showing the progress of development. Each new chapter has been bigger and better than the last. If the new one needs a little more time to get it right, so be it.
 

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^That. Not one person has made a comment about WWG's update being delayed / late on the official discord. A bit of "when's?" and "updates?", but no complaints. The only people that it really seemed to have bothered were people who are going to grab it for free anyways. The people who are paying for the release seem to be able to wait patiently. Kinda funny.
 

uscmiller22

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I think you've made your point several times now.

Maybe WWG gives rough dates because his patrons want to know? As one of those patrons, I'm only slightly disappointed by the delay. Anyone else who "gets their hopes up" doesn't really matter if they're not supporting.

WWG has been very communicative, posting previews showing the progress of development. Each new chapter has been bigger and better than the last. If the new one needs a little more time to get it right, so be it.
My bad for commenting back to people who comment to me in a forum. Thought that’s how this worked.
 

uscmiller22

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^That. Not one person has made a comment about WWG's update being delayed / late on the official discord. A bit of "when's?" and "updates?", but no complaints. The only people that it really seemed to have bothered were people who are going to grab it for free anyways. The people who are paying for the release seem to be able to wait patiently. Kinda funny.
Then stay on the discord, not the pirate site. No one’s forcing you to visit here hourly and listen to anyone on here. Criticism makes people better, you’re the one who thinks it’s all automatically negative. Not once did I complain about the delay or update timeframe.
 
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uscmiller22

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Comparing WWG to Incenton is not fair. WWG is a single man operation doing everything by himself. Incenton is a large team with a dedicated PR person who is responsible for communicating progress.
All I’m comparing is their formula of distributing information, nothing about the actual work being done. You can make progress bars in something as simple as excel if you wanted to. WWG is very smart, he wouldn’t need help to put something like that together.
 

dartred

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Then stay on the discord, not the pirate site. No one’s forcing you to visit here hourly and listen to anyone on here. Criticism makes people better, you’re the one who thinks it’s all automatically negative. Not once did I complain about the delay or update timeframe.
What about my post is me complaining about criticism? Me talking about people complaining about delays is suppose to be me talking about criticism?

Also how is people complaining about the delay going to make WWG better? He's already damn good at his job. Then why are you including yourself? I never said you did, but you wording it like that makes it sound like i was dropping hints that i meant you.
 
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