Others Predation [v0.2.7.3] [HornedLizardStudios, Veronika Repo]

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Mork_kai

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It has been at least 8 years since the earliest build of the game (That I could find) was released (Announced ). How is there still fuckin' nothing? How did they go from having a game to not having a game; then to to having a tech demo to not having a tech demo. Now there's just a gallery (which is missing some of the in-game scenes and CGs btw), as well as a bit of the game environment which, might I add, has looked almost identical for the better part of a decade xD
 

SamYote

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Hello again, F95!

Yeaaaah, I'm not gonna lie or try to sugarcoat things, here. Things have been upside down and backwards, and it feels like wheels are just kinda spinning. As the third dev, I AM partial to some of the things being developed, but I don't know every detail.

I do know, however, and can personally confirm, that Sephra has been working on new animations. But Tib and Sephra have been focusing on engine updates.
I wish, just as much as everyone here, that we can get the actual update out, soon. I am horribly worried that it looks like inaction, and that people will lose interest in the project. This has been a passion of mine for years, and I REALLY want to see more progress being made on it.

I'm helping out where I can, when I'm not doing the basic PR and Bug Testing shit in the corner. Hell, I've even been writing some additional lore for the game. But until we et the engine updated, and the AI matches it all, I'm not sure how easy it would be to implement all of the new things I've personally watched Sephra making, in calls.

...Tl;Dr, I'm frustrated with the wait, too, and am trying to do everything I can to speed it up. I even went so far as to "model" for a few of the characters, when the animation was too janky to be considered realistic. Long distance mo-cap is a fucking trip.
 

stonegate8

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Not to be that guy, I understand real people with real feelings are involved in this, but I've seen it a thousand times. Year after year creeps by, the developers keep finding reasons to completely restart and remake the project over and over. The last build of this game I have on my computer is from more than a year ago. If I download the current build, what differences will I observe? I have a strong suspicion it will be very little at all.

I'm just getting tired of h games as a whole I think. Compounded with the payment processors and platforms constricting, censoring, and upheaving, I find myself with little appetite for this scene anymore.
 
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Hello again, F95!

Yeaaaah, I'm not gonna lie or try to sugarcoat things, here. Things have been upside down and backwards, and it feels like wheels are just kinda spinning. As the third dev, I AM partial to some of the things being developed, but I don't know every detail.

I do know, however, and can personally confirm, that Sephra has been working on new animations. But Tib and Sephra have been focusing on engine updates.
I wish, just as much as everyone here, that we can get the actual update out, soon. I am horribly worried that it looks like inaction, and that people will lose interest in the project. This has been a passion of mine for years, and I REALLY want to see more progress being made on it.

I'm helping out where I can, when I'm not doing the basic PR and Bug Testing shit in the corner. Hell, I've even been writing some additional lore for the game. But until we et the engine updated, and the AI matches it all, I'm not sure how easy it would be to implement all of the new things I've personally watched Sephra making, in calls.

...Tl;Dr, I'm frustrated with the wait, too, and am trying to do everything I can to speed it up. I even went so far as to "model" for a few of the characters, when the animation was too janky to be considered realistic. Long distance mo-cap is a fucking trip.
My problem right now is that you ripped out the gameplay and made it an interactive virtual novel. Like is that permanent, or is this still an action game?

Also why is the dog gone?
 

SamYote

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My problem right now is that you ripped out the gameplay and made it an interactive virtual novel. Like is that permanent, or is this still an action game?

Also why is the dog gone?
When Predation first started, we were running on a rather obsolete game making platform, and after that, a bad engine. When we switched over to where we are now, we realized just how lacking the game was, and how much more could be done with it, so we are in the process of reworking the level for a brand new, MUCH better experience.

As for why the dog is gone, Patreon came down rather hard on any content that involved feral animals. They went on to specify that an anthro furry paired with a feral animal is "rule breaking content", and any such content hosted on Patreon would be "dealt with".
As unfortunate as it is, we had to remove the feral dog, to prevent Patreon from shutting our page down completely. We did try to jump ship to Subscribestar, for much more freedom, but that's been a slow process.

The current plan is to finish up the last touches on the completely redone first level, and release the build to show all of the improvements, how far we've come.
If you ask me, as someone who was a fan of the project BEFORE being brought on as a dev, I've been a tad bit impatient, myself. I want to see the new content that's been added in a playable state. I haven't been given any specific deadlines, but I have been assured that it's nearly ready for a big release. After the first level is republished, we've already got the groundwork in place for the next full levels, and the engine built to handle it. It's just a matter of putting it all together.
 

rook47

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Oct 27, 2021
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When Predation first started, we were running on a rather obsolete game making platform, and after that, a bad engine. When we switched over to where we are now, we realized just how lacking the game was, and how much more could be done with it, so we are in the process of reworking the level for a brand new, MUCH better experience.

As for why the dog is gone, Patreon came down rather hard on any content that involved feral animals. They went on to specify that an anthro furry paired with a feral animal is "rule breaking content", and any such content hosted on Patreon would be "dealt with".
As unfortunate as it is, we had to remove the feral dog, to prevent Patreon from shutting our page down completely. We did try to jump ship to Subscribestar, for much more freedom, but that's been a slow process.

The current plan is to finish up the last touches on the completely redone first level, and release the build to show all of the improvements, how far we've come.
If you ask me, as someone who was a fan of the project BEFORE being brought on as a dev, I've been a tad bit impatient, myself. I want to see the new content that's been added in a playable state. I haven't been given any specific deadlines, but I have been assured that it's nearly ready for a big release. After the first level is republished, we've already got the groundwork in place for the next full levels, and the engine built to handle it. It's just a matter of putting it all together.
i don't suppose the dog would make a comeback towards the games final build would it? or is it perma gone?
 

Litten

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Apr 22, 2018
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The game barely functions, even after 8 years. What were you doing? Basic platformer. BASIC PLATFORMER! You could have cobbled this together in GODOT in less than a year. Instead, this wait just so you could mooch off Patreon and Subscribestar (which you opened late because deleting a dog is better than moving and losing your Patreon supporters). I was a fool to support this project even for half a year as I did. Just sad.
 
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cell943

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But still only the same level we've been playing for ten years...

...so we are in the process of reworking the level for a brand new, MUCH better experience.
And apparently they're reworking it again. The same thing they've been doing since inception: redoing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Ugly and disappointing.
 
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Litten

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Apr 22, 2018
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And apparently they're reworking it again. The same thing they've been doing since inception. Ugly and disappointing.
No way! So I guess another update is coming in 2030? (Maybe with even fewer features this time.)
When will people stop falling for this "we are rebuilding on another engine for better exp UWU" crap?
This game is not Noita, not Factorio, they don't NEED a fucking new engine!
Legand Of Krystal all over again :rolleyes:.
 

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Litten

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Apr 22, 2018
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Played the newest version before writing my initial comment, btw. The new version is the same crap. With essentially just some added decorations that are long overdue considering it's been over 7 years. Still clunky and unpolished.
But hey they added 2 animations to the gallery (and removed one). So good job I guess. Raise your glasses to another 8 years of development of the 2nd level!
 

Hastik

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Aug 4, 2019
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Bro, I understand wanting to make the best version of your game that you can but you just cannot make a game, find a new shiny engine update, make it all from scratch, rinse and repeat that process until maybe you've got a playable build and still expect to have anything resembling a playerbase at the end of it. You are absolutely blinded by ambition. You're not building the next World Wonder. "The best time to plant a tree is yesterday, the second best time is today." you know? If you wanna make adjustments, at least don't gut the entire project to make it fit. One last piece of advice I can give: If you know that you only have 2 rooms with maybe 10 minutes of dialogue to go between them, don't be all cheeky and say "We've hidden some actual gameplay somewhere in here, see if you can find it." Surefire way to lose whatever goodwill people still have for this.
 
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