Unity Price for Freedom: Avarice [Build 35.0 Beta 1] [Team Dead Deer]

[Denji_DOG]

I played this game for a bit and I want to say that the game definitely lacks this guy, otherwise the game is so vanilla that it makes me want to puke. Not only can you not perform any bad actions, you can't even snap back at openly rude women, lol. By the way, animations generally look like in flash games of the 2000s. Zone-chan made better animations than you, 15 years ago, lol. The developers apparently haven't heard that you have to make quality content and then get money, and not the other way around, judging by what I read in their responses to my complaints about the translation, lol. The sex scenes and the plot seem to be okay, although I've already seen the plot twist with the demoness in another long-term project about NTR, I forgot what the game is called.

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[Vakul]

... also, hit left Alt, it highlights interactables :x

Well, nice. Had to disassemble my keyboard to find out my left alt was not touching contact groups(

Bu-u-ut, doors still don't highlights, which was the problem:

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I'm not sure what the rock paper scissors example means exactly, do you mean we should have a like "High attack, low attack, medium attack" and the choice will auto-beat 1 of the 3 and negate for the 2nd or do half damage? Or certain characters just auto delete other characters based on their type?

As we are still working on the combat system and trying to figure out a happy area for it we are open to suggestions, but a bit more depth to this would help a lot?

Characters can be one of 4 colors. Red has +20% DMG against Green and -20% DMG against Blue opponents. Also, Melee units are always follow a color pattern - Red have swords, blue have spears, green - axes or hammers.
Grey colored units do not have any DMG bonuses.

In your case it can be elemental alignment and racial bonuses - scaly ones is nature element group, 20% resistant to fire element units and take more damage from cold type units, while furry ones have bigger dicks is resistant to nature and vulnerable to fire (demonic/human species). Humans vulnerable to nature and resistant to cold. Undeads is neutral coz they don't give a fuck.




All units can be divided not only by colour but by class/move type - Infantry(move 2 steps), Armored (1 step, but have gigher defence), Cavalry(3 steps), flying(2 steps + ignoring most obstacles), beast type(if not standing close to non-beast, then transforms - stats up, some change move type) If near non beast, reverts.
long range units is mages, healers, archers and daggers
Healers, archers and daggers are usually grey with no color bonuses. Archers deal massive damage to flyers. Daggers nave archer type attacks but without bonus damage against flyers, but put debufss on their targets.

Additionally some characters can have special weapons or skills wich change their norman color/class vulnerability and bonuses.


In PFF case it can be classes or factions.

Or - there is even simplier version of battle system - there is a game

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(original one, from 2002)
where each unit has element alignment and have bonuses accoringly to his element. Kust like colors in previous example, but there is more that 3 elements. No weapon type or move type dependancies, as far as I can remember.

Also... we have more players and a larger community than concord so, whatever.

Well, your characters have sex appeal, so PFF certainly will not follow concords fate.

 

[C17H19NO3]

In games "obvious" is where highlighted markers placed. Or at least, when your taskbar tells you to search for doors. Or at least , HIGHLIGHTING the doors.

Videogame industry is more than 50 years old now, it has its own rules and tips.

Time to replay Morrowind again.

 

[Vakul]

Time to replay Morrowind again.

For the above reasons he aged so poorly. That's why direct remake will be disaster. And only (possible) skywind mod can give the second chance to it. What was Ok then is Not Ok now.

 

[Orlox]

For the above reasons he aged so poorly. That's why direct remake will be disaster. And only (possible) skywind mod can give the second chance to it. What was Ok then is Not Ok now.

According to whom? I hate to break it to you but you are not the main character of real life, just because you think every game needs extreme levels of handholding doesn't make it a well-established fact.

I'm not even sure why you would play any narrative-driven game if you can't be bothered to read simple quests...

 

[Vakul]

According to whom? I hate to break it to you but you are not the main character of real life, just because you think every game needs extreme levels of handholding doesn't make it a well-established fact.

I'm not even sure why you would play any narrative-driven game if you can't be bothered to read simple quests...

Well I am not the main character of anyones life except of my own. But thanks for acknowleging I guess.

To whom? Really? Well, there is an easy way, a hard way and something inbetween. Hard way is to analyze how games became much more user friandly over years and to understand that nowadays with widespread use of mobile games people have tendency not to unvolve with overcomplicated mechanics. As wise man said once "the game is fun. If it is not fun - why bother?" And people tend not to bother with complicated stuff. You can compare Owlcats Pathfinder and Larians BG3 or Dinitity OS 2 popularity.

Next way is to analyze popularity of old games in some franchize and modern ones. And by old I mean OLD. Like Fallout 1-2 - Fallout 3 - new Vegas - Fallout 4. Or like Morrowind-Oblivion-Skyrim. Which one has more complicated mechanics? ANd which one is more popular?

TLDR; Easy way - go see Nexusmods. Which one has more mods - Morrowind, Oblivion or Skyrim?
And then try to convince me that direct retexture of the former will be more popular, than the latter. What was OK then - is not OK now because of the new technologies and widespread of gaming industry. What was privileges of small groups long ago now is available to a huge number of people. And people in general do not love overcomplicated things.

 

[dalexe]

Is anyone else getting a bug with the fight against he village elder in the whispering bandits quest? i can't end my turns, and i got an error the first time i entered the tavern

 

[Orlox]

Well I am not the main character of anyones life except of my own. But thanks for acknowleging I guess.

To whom? Really? Well, there is an easy way, a hard way and something inbetween. Hard way is to analyze how games became much more user friandly over years and to understand that nowadays with widespread use of mobile games people have tendency not to unvolve with overcomplicated mechanics. As wise man said once "the game is fun. If it is not fun - why bother?" And people tend not to bother with complicated stuff. You can compare Owlcats Pathfinder and Larians BG3 or Dinitity OS 2 popularity.

Next way is to analyze popularity of old games in some franchize and modern ones. And by old I mean OLD. Like Fallout 1-2 - Fallout 3 - new Vegas - Fallout 4. Or like Morrowind-Oblivion-Skyrim. Which one has more complicated mechanics? ANd which one is more popular?

TLDR; Easy way - go see Nexusmods. Which one has more mods - Morrowind, Oblivion or Skyrim?
And then try to convince me that direct retexture of the former will be more popular, than the latter. What was OK then - is not OK now because of the new technologies and widespread of gaming industry. What was privileges of small groups long ago now is available to a huge number of people. And people in general do not love overcomplicated things.

Correlation does not imply causation, a game's complexity is just one factor in its popularity or lack thereof.

The Pathfinder games being less popular is not simply because they are "more complicated" it's also because they had much lower budgets which is one of the reason for them being less advertised, look worse graphically, not having everything narrated & voice acted, buggy, etc.

It's also ridiculous to compare the popularity of games that came out in the 90s with games that came out decades later, there's way more people playing video games now than there were back then.

The same can be said about a game's mod support, again, popularity is just one factor. While Skyrim is undeniably more popular than the other 2, concluding it's simply because it's "less complicated" is just a very simplistic (and wrong) way to look at it. It's even more funny when you consider how popular Elden Ring is.

Finally, there's a difference between "user-friendly" and "hand-holding". For example, a giant arrow pointing what to do and where to go at all times is hand-holding, a quest log with important quest information so you don't have to remember everything the NPCs told you is user-friendly, it's not the same thing.

 

[Valaska]

I played this game for a bit and I want to say that the game definitely lacks this guy, otherwise the game is so vanilla that it makes me want to puke. Not only can you not perform any bad actions, you can't even snap back at openly rude women, lol. By the way, animations generally look like in flash games of the 2000s. Zone-chan made better animations than you, 15 years ago, lol. The developers apparently haven't heard that you have to make quality content and then get money, and not the other way around, judging by what I read in their responses to my complaints about the translation, lol. The sex scenes and the plot seem to be okay, although I've already seen the plot twist with the demoness in another long-term project about NTR, I forgot what the game is called.

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While some of the legacy animations are rough... our in-scene animations are among the absolute best in the industry anywhere you will find. Moira's scene slaps, Shaman scene wrecks, you can rail a thiccbold in a windowsill and the animations are choice. Love Zone for sure, but you are either wrong or you're comparing their key frame animations which, yeah, keyframe animations rock. It took a long time for Zone to get where he is, and we match his rigged animations in terms of quality, facial expressions, etc.

Not only can you not perform any bad actions,

... you can murder a scullery boy just to keep him from talking. You can scam a vulnerable old man who is mentally disabled? You can leave several people to die, even leave companions to die. What in the fuck do you want us to do? Do you want like, Yujiro levels of slapstick stupi- oh, oh you do.

No, this isn't slapstick comedy. We are making a world and story with logical consistency and realism. Much as I love Baki, the show outright tells you that you should not admire Yujiro... lol... the entire point is that he is dysfunctional and incomplete, and that he had to smarten up and learned he wants to connect with his Baki and that Yujiro missed out on the important shit in life because he's so retarded.

We have PLENTY of hard-hitting fucking insane choices, you can butcher a Demoness who otherwise poses no threat other than her existence as a being. And guess what? Many of these acts will drive away the companions you can have because...

you can't even snap back at openly rude women, lol.

Yeah. Not sure how to unpack that one tbfh. There's some light joking at Redic's expense, very light ribbing and teasing, and the only being that is actually denigrating and a woman could literally rend him in two as an afterthought. Like, all NPCs in the game are meant to realistically respond to what you are doing, so if you are being an asshole to them you are going to get attitude back, and eventually they can/will leave you. This is not NTR Battered Wife Simulator.

Also, the game you were thinking about is Seeds of Chaos and Jezera can actually behead you at several points of time if you are being too uppity lol. I worked on that project briefly! Jezera literally keeps the main character around as a plaything and pretends/acts sweet when in actuality she views Rowan as an insignificant pawn to cast onto the board.

Well, nice. Had to disassemble my keyboard to find out my left alt was not touching contact groups(

Bu-u-ut, doors still don't highlights, which was the problem:
In PFF case it can be classes or factions.

Or - there is even simplier version of battle system - there is a game

You must be registered to see the links

(original one, from 2002)
where each unit has element alignment and have bonuses accoringly to his element. Kust like colors in previous example, but there is more that 3 elements. No weapon type or move type dependancies, as far as I can remember.

Yeah my Keychron has Gatreon Red Pros and they are dying left and right, about to just pull them all and drop in Kaihl Box Browns soon, just swapping out the reds until I am out of spares atm.

Ah I see what you mean by the doors, the ones in the world without a click context don't always have them. I'll talk with Deck and Arbuz about that and see where we want to land on it. Later on in the world btw the characters that have quests have a minor glow when hitting Alt.

As for the combat system I get what you mean now and yeah I've seen this in games, usually it's with much larger party sizes though because then you don't need to pick or choose which of your party members you have based on the potential to come across types which can end you into a soft-lock if you brought the wrong characters to an unexpected engagement and you saved before it, but are just screwed because you have all negative modifiers. Girls Frontline Neural Cloud does this a lot with its exploration mode things and you bring in the team, you can steamroll everything in the layer before it, but then are compeltely fucked at the boss fight because you don't have a blue bar breaker or such.

While we are looking at streamlining and improving our combat system, this system wouldn't work well for the limited character roll we have. But it is a legitimate and can be a fun system in the right context and genre.

Well, nice. Had to disassemble my keyboard to find out my left alt was not touching contact groups(
Well, your characters have sex appeal, so PFF certainly will not follow concords fate.

Yeah I don't know what they were doing as a hero shooter, the characters are the main draw to get people in the door in the first place. So having all the characters pastel with weak silhouettes, no high contrast, or sex appeal... didn't make sense. You don't need sexy characters to be successful, but you need visually interesting ones at least. Even the environments in Concord just blended together in this weird... babyshit green colour.

Is anyone else getting a bug with the fight against he village elder in the whispering bandits quest? i can't end my turns, and i got an error the first time i entered the tavern

Could you post your save here? It'll be a JPG in the save folder in AppData. We can't tell what's breaking without that.

 

[TheWindsOfChange]

you can't even snap back at openly rude women, lol

At some point in the main quest, you can insult a receptionist by calling her a bitch. How far did you play?

 

[Denji_DOG]

While some of the legacy animations are rough... our in-scene animations are among the absolute best in the industry anywhere you will find. Moira's scene slaps, Shaman scene wrecks, you can rail a thiccbold in a windowsill and the animations are choice. Love Zone for sure, but you are either wrong or you're comparing their key frame animations which, yeah, keyframe animations rock. It took a long time for Zone to get where he is, and we match his rigged animations in terms of quality, facial expressions, etc.



... you can murder a scullery boy just to keep him from talking. You can scam a vulnerable old man who is mentally disabled? You can leave several people to die, even leave companions to die. What in the fuck do you want us to do? Do you want like, Yujiro levels of slapstick stupi- oh, oh you do.

No, this isn't slapstick comedy. We are making a world and story with logical consistency and realism. Much as I love Baki, the show outright tells you that you should not admire Yujiro... lol... the entire point is that he is dysfunctional and incomplete, and that he had to smarten up and learned he wants to connect with his Baki and that Yujiro missed out on the important shit in life because he's so retarded.

We have PLENTY of hard-hitting fucking insane choices, you can butcher a Demoness who otherwise poses no threat other than her existence as a being. And guess what? Many of these acts will drive away the companions you can have because...



Yeah. Not sure how to unpack that one tbfh. There's some light joking at Redic's expense, very light ribbing and teasing, and the only being that is actually denigrating and a woman could literally rend him in two as an afterthought. Like, all NPCs in the game are meant to realistically respond to what you are doing, so if you are being an asshole to them you are going to get attitude back, and eventually they can/will leave you. This is not NTR Battered Wife Simulator.

Also, the game you were thinking about is Seeds of Chaos and Jezera can actually behead you at several points of time if you are being too uppity lol. I worked on that project briefly! Jezera literally keeps the main character around as a plaything and pretends/acts sweet when in actuality she views Rowan as an insignificant pawn to cast onto the board.



Yeah my Keychron has Gatreon Red Pros and they are dying left and right, about to just pull them all and drop in Kaihl Box Browns soon, just swapping out the reds until I am out of spares atm.

Ah I see what you mean by the doors, the ones in the world without a click context don't always have them. I'll talk with Deck and Arbuz about that and see where we want to land on it. Later on in the world btw the characters that have quests have a minor glow when hitting Alt.

As for the combat system I get what you mean now and yeah I've seen this in games, usually it's with much larger party sizes though because then you don't need to pick or choose which of your party members you have based on the potential to come across types which can end you into a soft-lock if you brought the wrong characters to an unexpected engagement and you saved before it, but are just screwed because you have all negative modifiers. Girls Frontline Neural Cloud does this a lot with its exploration mode things and you bring in the team, you can steamroll everything in the layer before it, but then are compeltely fucked at the boss fight because you don't have a blue bar breaker or such.

While we are looking at streamlining and improving our combat system, this system wouldn't work well for the limited character roll we have. But it is a legitimate and can be a fun system in the right context and genre.



Yeah I don't know what they were doing as a hero shooter, the characters are the main draw to get people in the door in the first place. So having all the characters pastel with weak silhouettes, no high contrast, or sex appeal... didn't make sense. You don't need sexy characters to be successful, but you need visually interesting ones at least. Even the environments in Concord just blended together in this weird... babyshit green colour.



Could you post your save here? It'll be a JPG in the save folder in AppData. We can't tell what's breaking without that.

What the fuck is a dishwasher for? I literally have to be polite even with bandits because apparently. You can't even use a demoness in the dungeon, even if it would be a bad ending. And you don't cut the demoness, the main character literally makes the same mistake as Rowan and Toji from Magic Battle. He doesn't hit all the way. By the way, Dzhizera survived exclusively thanks to the plot armor, otherwise I can't say why the guy who killed the demon king is not able to deal with two fucking assholes. Why the fuck did you have this worship of demons in your games? And as for this game, it seems okay, although of course it doesn't make you want to jerk off to these scenes that escaped from women's romance novels, but that's a matter of taste I suppose. Your fantasy is so polished that even Baldur's Gate 3 would envy it, although there are plenty of controversial points there too. Nobody robs anyone, kills anyone, does bad things to women, because apparently there is a strict matriarchy there, lmao. The cobweb who steals your wallet, you literally can't hand her over to the guards. You can either fuck her or let her go, why the hell? Yujiro may be a farce, but he is an epic farce. It is interesting to watch him and interesting to observe him. Men want to be like him, and women just want to sleep with him. And then you jump out with your elf who has no interesting character, no backstory, just a typical hipster from the nearest coffee shop. What does realism have to do with it? We seem to be playing a fantasy game, no? There are a lot of Japanese games that have elements of drama and comedy and all this is combined and does not cause rejection. The same monster girl quest, there the main character is just perfect by your standards, but at the same time Luka does not evoke the feeling of a dead valley like your elf, Rowan and a couple of similar characters from Western gamedev. A polished game for hipsters and people who are offended by pictures on the Internet, lol. I also want to say that people like you with your vanilla stories are to blame for the emergence of the NTR genre as a counterculture with such “true stories”, because readers are tired of reading all sorts of vanilla crap about nothing. And about the animations, are you fucking serious? When fucking Samara sucks the main character's dick, the dick literally goes through her cheek, lol. This is the level of the 2000s before normal authors appeared. And I don't agree that you actually believe that Baki isn't telling you to look up to Yujiro. He's literally the most successful person in the series who is worshiped like a god.
Literally my reaction when I read your answer.

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[Denji_DOG]

At some point in the main quest, you can insult a receptionist by calling her a bitch. How far did you play?

The level of insults in games is 2024, lmao.

 

[Valaska]

What the fuck is a dishwasher for? I literally have to be polite even with bandits because apparently. You can't even use a demoness in the dungeon, even if it would be a bad ending. And you don't cut the demoness, the main character literally makes the same mistake as Rowan and Toji from Magic Battle.

Magic Battle... the card game or...? No idea who Toji is, but you CAN stab Lady Wolf, you impail her clean through, say no to the sex scene. You can even try and expose her, and yes, it is a bad ending. Because your violence is nothing compared to what she can commit.

He doesn't hit all the way. By the way, Dzhizera survived exclusively thanks to the plot armor, otherwise I can't say why the guy who killed the demon king is not able to deal with two fucking assholes. Why the fuck did you have this worship of demons in your games?

...? Because Rowan didn't kill the twins' father. He was able to get supplies to the realm's forces when no one else could, and planned/found a way in where no one else could. It was an entire army that was committed to bring him down full of extraordinarily powerful mages and such, you even meet a few later in SoC. Either of the twins could end Rowan at any point and there are several bad endings where they will do just that.

And as for this game, it seems okay, although of course it doesn't make you want to jerk off to these scenes that escaped from women's romance novels, but that's a matter of taste I suppose. Your fantasy is so polished that even Baldur's Gate 3 would envy it, although there are plenty of controversial points there too. Nobody robs anyone, kills anyone, does bad things to women, because apparently there is a strict matriarchy there, lmao. The cobweb who steals your wallet, you literally can't hand her over to the guards. You can either fuck her or let her go, why the hell? Yujiro may be a farce, but he is an epic farce. It is interesting to watch him and interesting to observe him. Men want to be like him, and women just want to sleep with him. And then you jump out with your elf who has no interesting character, no backstory, just a typical hipster from the nearest coffee shop. What does realism have to do with it? We seem to be playing a fantasy game, no? There are a lot of Japanese games that have elements of drama and comedy and all this is combined and does not cause rejection. The same monster girl quest, there the main character is just perfect by your standards, but at the same time Luka does not evoke the feeling of a dead valley like your elf, Rowan and a couple of similar characters from Western gamedev.

Whew boy... starting to think you didn't clear the first dungeon??? There's a slave market where there are women who are being sold, a Zahra slave who the slave master there is thinking about skinning and selling her fur off because of how valuable (and illegal in most places) a Zahra pelt is. You can kill, Scylla... and her entire family was butchered in front of her and she had to kill her own uncle lol. In Scylla's second quest one of the companions will be seriously injured? Redic even meets an old acquaintance from his homeland who bleeds out... in his arms, right there?

Outside forces are attempting to take down the Velvet Oasis because of its success, Elizabeth Roth (a female knight from Ohmes) is killed by your people's hands. You can kill Mara... like, you literally, legitimately, have zero understanding how much you can do in this game?

And yeah this is a fantasy game but I don't care about making silly comedy or power fantasy. We're making a serious setting here with rules and consequences. If you just... murder Iski for picking your pocket, the Partisans would bring you down in moments for killing someone that publicly. Like... you vs one of the most professionally trained and maintained guard forces in this setting armoured and armed to the teeth. You're not walking away from that.

Not only that but no backstory? lol... again, he speaks about his backstory to the companions and to Clementine. He's a set and established character that you are guiding. But at the same time you are basically demanding the Japanese blank slate characters with literally no backstory while complaining our character doesn't have a backstory? Pick a lane???

A polished game for hipsters and people who are offended by pictures on the Internet, lol. I also want to say that people like you with your vanilla stories are to blame for the emergence of the NTR genre as a counterculture with such “true stories”, because readers are tired of reading all sorts of vanilla crap about nothing.

Ahaha... yes, that is us. The polished game for "coffee shop hipsters" that has slavery, racism, a dude who can fuck multiple women, in a couple instances even dubious motivations/consent. But yeah like if you dig NTR then check out

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, Lewd Logic has been cooking that up for a while. That's not the game we're making.

And about the animations, are you fucking serious? When fucking Samara sucks the main character's dick, the dick literally goes through her cheek, lol. This is the level of the 2000s before normal authors appeared.

Pffft... there isn't a scene where Samara sucks the MC's dick yet except for our sprite scenes which just came out. Show me it "just going through her cheek." Not happening, and having been around this industry for ages and having access/playing a ton of stuff, yeah our animations are among the best in the industry for rigged scenes. We have a lot of work to do to re-work the run/walking cycles though as I am not happy with those, but the in-sex scene animations are top choice, and even our sprite scenes which are our quick and low-effort beat out anything I've seen out of Japan for years excluding keyframe, there are some western devs we might not be on the level of yet but we're working on improving.

(Wow, now that IMGUR etc is gone, there's nowhere to do gifs because everyone bans them lol)

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And I don't agree that you actually believe that Baki isn't telling you to look up to Yujiro. He's literally the most successful person in the series who is worshiped like a god. Literally my reaction when I read your answer.

... did you just miss the whole bit where the author spells it out how Yuuichirou is the pinnacle of a complete person? Or how it is literally spelled out that Baki beats Yujiro and Yujiro admits, Baki, is the strongest which in his own mentality means Baki is the one you should look up to? Or how Baki has a loving relationship, friendship, but his choice to shirk all the bullshit/fame/etc is what makes him the happier person.

What does Yujiro actually have? Nothing, he's literally just going through the motions, but nothing he does means anything. Nothing he accomplishes means anything. It's all just to do it. The only people who would look up to Yujiro are the same weirdos who thought Holden Caulfield was "the real one and everyone else was fake and a phony!" or people who thought John Galt was anything but a moron's take on Nietzche's writings lol. Or more topically/modern culture, people who actually look up to Rick Sanchez lol.

 

[Denji_DOG]

Magic Battle... the card game or...? No idea who Toji is, but you CAN stab Lady Wolf, you impail her clean through, say no to the sex scene. You can even try and expose her, and yes, it is a bad ending. Because your violence is nothing compared to what she can commit.



...? Because Rowan didn't kill the twins' father. He was able to get supplies to the realm's forces when no one else could, and planned/found a way in where no one else could. It was an entire army that was committed to bring him down full of extraordinarily powerful mages and such, you even meet a few later in SoC. Either of the twins could end Rowan at any point and there are several bad endings where they will do just that.



Whew boy... starting to think you didn't clear the first dungeon??? There's a slave market where there are women who are being sold, a Zahra slave who the slave master there is thinking about skinning and selling her fur off because of how valuable (and illegal in most places) a Zahra pelt is. You can kill, Scylla... and her entire family was butchered in front of her and she had to kill her own uncle lol. In Scylla's second quest one of the companions will be seriously injured? Redic even meets an old acquaintance from his homeland who bleeds out... in his arms, right there?

Outside forces are attempting to take down the Velvet Oasis because of its success, Elizabeth Roth (a female knight from Ohmes) is killed by your people's hands. You can kill Mara... like, you literally, legitimately, have zero understanding how much you can do in this game?

And yeah this is a fantasy game but I don't care about making silly comedy or power fantasy. We're making a serious setting here with rules and consequences. If you just... murder Iski for picking your pocket, the Partisans would bring you down in moments for killing someone that publicly. Like... you vs one of the most professionally trained and maintained guard forces in this setting armoured and armed to the teeth. You're not walking away from that.

Not only that but no backstory? lol... again, he speaks about his backstory to the companions and to Clementine. He's a set and established character that you are guiding. But at the same time you are basically demanding the Japanese blank slate characters with literally no backstory while complaining our character doesn't have a backstory? Pick a lane???



Ahaha... yes, that is us. The polished game for "coffee shop hipsters" that has slavery, racism, a dude who can fuck multiple women, in a couple instances even dubious motivations/consent. But yeah like if you dig NTR then check out

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, Lewd Logic has been cooking that up for a while. That's not the game we're making.



Pffft... there isn't a scene where Samara sucks the MC's dick yet except for our sprite scenes which just came out. Show me it "just going through her cheek." Not happening, and having been around this industry for ages and having access/playing a ton of stuff, yeah our animations are among the best in the industry for rigged scenes. We have a lot of work to do to re-work the run/walking cycles though as I am not happy with those, but the in-sex scene animations are top choice, and even our sprite scenes which are our quick and low-effort beat out anything I've seen out of Japan for years excluding keyframe, there are some western devs we might not be on the level of yet but we're working on improving.

(Wow, now that IMGUR etc is gone, there's nowhere to do gifs because everyone bans them lol)

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... did you just miss the whole bit where the author spells it out how Yuuichirou is the pinnacle of a complete person? Or how it is literally spelled out that Baki beats Yujiro and Yujiro admits, Baki, is the strongest which in his own mentality means Baki is the one you should look up to? Or how Baki has a loving relationship, friendship, but his choice to shirk all the bullshit/fame/etc is what makes him the happier person.

What does Yujiro actually have? Nothing, he's literally just going through the motions, but nothing he does means anything. Nothing he accomplishes means anything. It's all just to do it. The only people who would look up to Yujiro are the same weirdos who thought Holden Caulfield was "the real one and everyone else was fake and a phony!" or people who thought John Galt was anything but a moron's take on Nietzche's writings lol. Or more topically/modern culture, people who actually look up to Rick Sanchez lol.

I can't stab her because it doesn't affect anything. A random fucking demon who just happens to be near the main character is a cliche even by Japanese isekai standards. Yes, I can expose her, but we are not allowed to fight her, she is apparently a one-punch man in this world, lol. Yes, you are right about Rowan, I apparently have false memories of him killing him. No, I went somewhere up to the quest for silver in the mercenary guild and the quest of that girl who wants to fuck a deer. In 3 hours of gameplay, I did not see a single scene you wrote except for the demoness and this is literally the same as in the game about Rowan. And what are the consequences? Can you betray the demoness? Very unlikely. Can you conquer this city through intrigue and ultra-violence? Also no? Hmm. What are you talking about if in some moments you can't even be rude. It's funny that you consider racism - it's just childish babble. Have you read Ivanhoe for example? That's medieval racism. Your racism is as it is imagined while sitting over a mug of latte in a coffee shop. Again, the main character doesn't give a shit who to fuck, a fucking kobold or an ogre. He's a cosmopolitan, lol. And I didn't say anything about killing a kobold, I said that you can't even hand her over to the guards and you can even beat her by simply bribing the guards and letting her go and that will give another boost to the main character's motivation, but that's not the case. Of course you don't have a fantasy about power, lol. You can't even fucking change your equipment. What do you mean just Japanese characters from scratch? Are you nuts? Luka's backstory is better written than all the content I've seen in your game. You could have at least googled it. And yeah, why do you think I like NTR? And yeah, the fact that you even linked to NTR shows your ignorance, since this is Netori's game, not NTR. Bro, the scene after the hunting quest. There she's lying on the bed and when she starts fellatio the main character's dick goes right through her cheek. Don't you know what scenes you have in your game? Yeah, if you don't praise yourself, no one will. I'm sure the clowns from Ubisoft think the same way when they release another piece of failed crap. Look at artists like Itte Umezawa, Takeda Hiromitsu and so on. Their work is a billion times better than yours, lol. Bro, this gif is just something else, lol. It's like I'm watching a puppet theater run by a person with cerebral palsy. Did I say something about Yujiro being the strongest? Or something bad about Baki? Why are you arguing with yourself? No, it doesn't make him happier. He spent his entire childhood and youth trying to get revenge on his father for literally random Tuesdays for Yujiro. Literally giving up his entire life for the sake of recognition from this man. Which is exactly what I was saying. Men want to be like him, and women want to fuck him. Cool, and now we've moved on to passive aggression about how I like Yujiro, and you're too scared to admit that such characters are the peak of art. Because Yujiro literally demonstrates the inconsistency of being a positive character. It's literally working at a loss. That's exactly how he was meant to be.

 

[deck]

Is anyone else getting a bug with the fight against he village elder in the whispering bandits quest? i can't end my turns, and i got an error the first time i entered the tavern

Could you send a bug report in game, with the bottom left button in the main menu, I'll check your save.

 

[Valaska]

I can't stab her because it doesn't affect anything. A random fucking demon who just happens to be near the main character is a cliche even by Japanese isekai standards. Yes, I can expose her, but we are not allowed to fight her, she is apparently a one-punch man in this world, lol.

The first scene if you decline it, you see why you're not winning... you drive a sword straight through her, and it does, nothing. She rips a rusted steel door open by... taking it out of the wall where it was anchored in. There is no "one punch man" in PFF, but if you were to try and punch a bull in the head it's not going to go well. Likewise, if you are going to try and fight, one-on-one, a creature that could snap your spine with a backhanded slap is not going to go well for you.

And what are the consequences? Can you betray the demoness? Very unlikely. Can you conquer this city through intrigue and ultra-violence? Also no? Hmm. What are you talking about if in some moments you can't even be rude. It's funny that you consider racism - it's just childish babble. Have you read Ivanhoe for example? That's medieval racism. Your racism is as it is imagined while sitting over a mug of latte in a coffee shop.

You can at a few points challenge and attempt to do so, but it's an entity that Redic has nearly no answer for. He's got his eye out and there's a few points where he is either searching for or coming to terms with her, specifically with Commodore Asgher. But its clear that she could be anyone he speaks to, she is watching, and monitoring... but also helping him. For now with the personality and mind he has he wants to understand more of what's going on and remove the potential risk instead of just suicidally exposing her.

And like... this isn't slapstick comedy, already said that. Having a rude option for EVERY conversation is dogshit writing. FIrst off it doesn't work with the character and secondly, Redic isn't a fucking moron. Do you know how far people like that make it in life? Not very. It drives people away or eventually cuts a cheque your mouth can't cash.

And yes... I have read Ivanhoe. It was written several hundred years after the fact and completely and utterly anachronistic rife with inaccuracy. A complete misunderstanding when it comes to charges of heresy and somehow... a Jewish woman, was charged? Which isn't something a thing that would happen, not to mention the sentence was completely ahistorical for the time period and witches weren't burned at the stake outside the Americas (and even then, RARELY). You're likely applying 4channer ideas of what racism in the middle ages was like, instead of understanding how it actually was.

Again, the main character doesn't give a shit who to fuck, a fucking kobold or an ogre. He's a cosmopolitan, lol.

Not to mention we are in a free trade center, which is the very definition of cosmopolitan. So... thanks for the compliments on me nailing the setting appropriately! Not to mention Einadians don't have any reason to dislike kobolds, ogres, or what not. They'd far sooner be aggressive/racist towards a Pyrish human/elf than they would be to a kobold in a completely different region with no cultural animosity. Because that's how "racism" worked in the earlier days, it was much more based on culture and region than it was on actual race.

What do you mean just Japanese characters from scratch? Are you nuts? Luka's backstory is better written than all the content I've seen in your game. You could have at least googled it. And yeah, why do you think I like NTR? And yeah, the fact that you even linked to NTR shows your ignorance, since this is Netori's game, not NTR.

Iunno you suddenly started talking about NTR games so I linked you NTRaholic, you can even be super shitty to women in it. Might be up your alley??? No? Also... Luka? From Steinsgate? I like the character but I think his story is pretty brief and almost an afterthought. That game is more about the present interactions you have with the characters.

Bro, the scene after the hunting quest. There she's lying on the bed and when she starts fellatio the main character's dick goes right through her cheek. Don't you know what scenes you have in your game? Yeah, if you don't praise yourself, no one will. I'm sure the clowns from Ubisoft think the same way when they release another piece of failed crap. Look at artists like Itte Umezawa, Takeda Hiromitsu and so on. Their work is a billion times better than yours, lol. Bro, this gif is just something else, lol. It's like I'm watching a puppet theater run by a person with cerebral palsy.

This is the scene after hunting, unless you mean the sprite scene and the dick doesn't come out of the cheek it's just a hard transition since those scenes are done faster so we can provide more content/kinks that our community vote on. And for those 2 artists, I mean, yeah. Keyframe vs rigged. Our rigged animations compared to others are in the top of the genre. We don't have keyframe animations. Also... like, some of these animations too are like... I feel pretty confident in our animator's skill at this point tbfh haha. We manage a good amount of amplitude and oomph that's not the norm for rigged scenes! Nice.

Did I say something about Yujiro being the strongest? Or something bad about Baki? Why are you arguing with yourself? No, it doesn't make him happier. He spent his entire childhood and youth trying to get revenge on his father for literally random Tuesdays for Yujiro. Literally giving up his entire life for the sake of recognition from this man. Which is exactly what I was saying. Men want to be like him, and women want to fuck him. Cool, and now we've moved on to passive aggression about how I like Yujiro, and you're too scared to admit that such characters are the peak of art. Because Yujiro literally demonstrates the inconsistency of being a positive character. It's literally working at a loss. That's exactly how he was meant to be.

So what's your argument for Yujiro being someone you should look up to, lol? Baki finds Kozue and falls in love and they end up having a super wholesome and nice relationship together, he has real friendship with Kaoru, Retsu (Best Waifu), Doppo, Hanayama, and even Chiharu. Baki makes actual friends and lasting relationships while Yujiro's entire life revolves around waiting for his son to beat him. He does, nothing. He accomplishes, nothing.

Baki takes on responsibilities and accepts a man is more than just being a selfish parasite like Yujiro. And at the end of the day... who makes the fuckin' Miso soup? That's right. Yujiro makes the soup.

And he did a shit job of it, too.

 

[Vakul]

Correlation does not imply causation, a game's complexity is just one factor in its popularity or lack thereof.

Well ofcourse, that is only one factor of many. And thats why gamedesign is not an easy job. But you mentioned Morrowind so I based my argumentation on this title. While visuals can be improved relatively fast'n'easy, an outdated mechanics still linger making it much harder to compete with modern titles.
And again - that is in general. There is some exceptions, as always, but as they say - the exception only proves the rule. There is many popular games with complex mechanics, but their popularity cant be compared to that one of Candy crush.
As for Elden Ring - do not mistake "hard" and "complicated" thats very different things. Elden is hard, like any soulslike, but there is no complicated mechanics - you just go smash things to get loot while trying not to die in the process.

Finally, there's a difference between "user-friendly" and "hand-holding". For example, a giant arrow pointing what to do and where to go at all times is hand-holding, a quest log with important quest information so you don't have to remember everything the NPCs told you is user-friendly, it's not the same thing.

In the end, it is the "size" of an arrow that makes the difference. It can be like giant-giant, or it can be like highlighted outline, or it can be togglable. Or it can be in the form of text hint. Handholdin-Userfrendly is valuables on the same scale, just different position.

but then are compeltely fucked at the boss fight because you don't have a blue bar breaker or such.

While we are looking at streamlining and improving our combat system, this system wouldn't work well for the limited character roll we have. But it is a legitimate and can be a fun system in the right context and genre.

Everything is possible, when there is enough imagination. Team problem like that can be easily solved when neede character step out before a battle ans says something like "I have a feeling I should go with you" or "I wanna go". Or can be locked in the team for the mission.
As for colored scheme - it was just an example of battle system which is simple yet elegant, allowing you to explain it fast and add the details later if you want. Again - everything is possible where is enough imagination.

You don't need sexy characters to be successful, but you need visually interesting ones at least.

Well, as far as I remember, according to marketing rules sexy girls is what make the most sales. Next, cute things like kittens and puppies. And besides we're here on the porn games forum, so I stated the obvious)

 

[Valaska]

Everything is possible, when there is enough imagination. Team problem like that can be easily solved when neede character step out before a battle ans says something like "I have a feeling I should go with you" or "I wanna go". Or can be locked in the team for the mission.
As for colored scheme - it was just an example of battle system which is simple yet elegant, allowing you to explain it fast and add the details later if you want. Again - everything is possible where is enough imagination.

No I get what you mean, but yeah it would not work out with the genre and style of our game. That just is more geared and aimed towards the large party games like Fire Emblem, Advanced Wars, etc.

Well, as far as I remember, according to marketing rules sexy girls is what make the most sales. Next, cute things like kittens and puppies. And besides we're here on the porn games forum, so I stated the obvious)

Well, one thing you can look at is Fortnite, and then games like Journey etc. HIGH contrast art can pull people in and catch their eye. Like setting pale blue next to vibrant dark reds. You can even go the route of Rainbow 6 and such and still bring in tons of people, going the route of safe and approachable/decent graphics. Or Forever Winter and go for extremely unique with a specific tone and style that sets it apart.

So I think there's a world a non-sexy Concord could have worked... but there's no world where an ugly and drab version that doesn't do anything to set itself apart Concord works.

 

[Orlox]

Well ofcourse, that is only one factor of many. And thats why gamedesign is not an easy job. But you mentioned Morrowind so I based my argumentation on this title. While visuals can be improved relatively fast'n'easy, an outdated mechanics still linger making it much harder to compete with modern titles.
And again - that is in general. There is some exceptions, as always, but as they say - the exception only proves the rule. There is many popular games with complex mechanics, but their popularity cant be compared to that one of Candy crush.
As for Elden Ring - do not mistake "hard" and "complicated" thats very different things. Elden is hard, like any soulslike, but there is no complicated mechanics - you just go smash things to get loot while trying not to die in the process.

I didn't bring up Morrowind someone else did. I just replied to your comment to them, personally I have zero faith in current Bethesda so if they were involved in a remake it would probably suck.

The point with Elden Ring is that it doesn't hold your hand, It doesn't tell you where to go or what to do and yet is still extremely popular, that's just one example that shows games don't need to treat their players like babies to be successful.

In the end, it is the "size" of an arrow that makes the difference. It can be like giant-giant, or it can be like highlighted outline, or it can be togglable. Or it can be in the form of text hint. Handholdin-Userfrendly is valuables on the same scale, just different position.

One is making things more convenient and the other is often the result of devs having no faith in their ability to convey information to their players in a more subtle manner or them thinking their player base is filled with people too dumb to figure anything out themselves. A well-designed game will teach things to the player without most of them even realizing they're being taught.

Of course this all depends on what kind of game it is and what it's trying to achieve, in some of them it makes perfect sense to point where your objectives are and what you need to do. The problem is acting like every game should be like that no matter what and that it's "bad game design" if they don't.

Like when you threw a tantrum because you obviously didn't read and couldn't figure how to progress and called the devs idiots because the game didn't spoon-feed you hard enough.

Whan I read comix and found outt there is a game, I hoped there is somthing akin to that rpgmaker things. But this... they clearly not suited for making games. Overcomplicated combat without obvious mechanics is shitty at least.
Save-load made so poorly, you cant even tell - are you loading or saving.
Perfect example of situation when art is NOT everything.
No obvious pointers is making you reload again and again without any understanding - what the fuck did you do wrog this time. From gamedesign point of view - complete shit.
When you escaping prison, second room, SECOND FUCKING ROOM - and they're keep catching you. What to do? Where to hide? How stupid and blind devs are to shit this crap to life? Hope they will never make games again, they are imbecils anyway. Even BG3 has combat more comprehansible than this shit.

 

[Denji_DOG]

The first scene if you decline it, you see why you're not winning... you drive a sword straight through her, and it does, nothing. She rips a rusted steel door open by... taking it out of the wall where it was anchored in. There is no "one punch man" in PFF, but if you were to try and punch a bull in the head it's not going to go well. Likewise, if you are going to try and fight, one-on-one, a creature that could snap your spine with a backhanded slap is not going to go well for you.



You can at a few points challenge and attempt to do so, but it's an entity that Redic has nearly no answer for. He's got his eye out and there's a few points where he is either searching for or coming to terms with her, specifically with Commodore Asgher. But its clear that she could be anyone he speaks to, she is watching, and monitoring... but also helping him. For now with the personality and mind he has he wants to understand more of what's going on and remove the potential risk instead of just suicidally exposing her.

And like... this isn't slapstick comedy, already said that. Having a rude option for EVERY conversation is dogshit writing. FIrst off it doesn't work with the character and secondly, Redic isn't a fucking moron. Do you know how far people like that make it in life? Not very. It drives people away or eventually cuts a cheque your mouth can't cash.

And yes... I have read Ivanhoe. It was written several hundred years after the fact and completely and utterly anachronistic rife with inaccuracy. A complete misunderstanding when it comes to charges of heresy and somehow... a Jewish woman, was charged? Which isn't something a thing that would happen, not to mention the sentence was completely ahistorical for the time period and witches weren't burned at the stake outside the Americas (and even then, RARELY). You're likely applying 4channer ideas of what racism in the middle ages was like, instead of understanding how it actually was.


Not to mention we are in a free trade center, which is the very definition of cosmopolitan. So... thanks for the compliments on me nailing the setting appropriately! Not to mention Einadians don't have any reason to dislike kobolds, ogres, or what not. They'd far sooner be aggressive/racist towards a Pyrish human/elf than they would be to a kobold in a completely different region with no cultural animosity. Because that's how "racism" worked in the earlier days, it was much more based on culture and region than it was on actual race.



Iunno you suddenly started talking about NTR games so I linked you NTRaholic, you can even be super shitty to women in it. Might be up your alley??? No? Also... Luka? From Steinsgate? I like the character but I think his story is pretty brief and almost an afterthought. That game is more about the present interactions you have with the characters.



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This is the scene after hunting, unless you mean the sprite scene and the dick doesn't come out of the cheek it's just a hard transition since those scenes are done faster so we can provide more content/kinks that our community vote on. And for those 2 artists, I mean, yeah. Keyframe vs rigged. Our rigged animations compared to others are in the top of the genre. We don't have keyframe animations. Also... like, some of these animations too are like... I feel pretty confident in our animator's skill at this point tbfh haha. We manage a good amount of amplitude and oomph that's not the norm for rigged scenes! Nice.



So what's your argument for Yujiro being someone you should look up to, lol? Baki finds Kozue and falls in love and they end up having a super wholesome and nice relationship together, he has real friendship with Kaoru, Retsu (Best Waifu), Doppo, Hanayama, and even Chiharu. Baki makes actual friends and lasting relationships while Yujiro's entire life revolves around waiting for his son to beat him. He does, nothing. He accomplishes, nothing.

Baki takes on responsibilities and accepts a man is more than just being a selfish parasite like Yujiro. And at the end of the day... who makes the fuckin' Miso soup? That's right. Yujiro makes the soup.

And he did a shit job of it, too.

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Well, why not. There were men in real history who knocked down a bull with a punch. You can google it. Your analogy is bullshit. No fucking way, having a rude answer for every dialogue is a fucking player choice. It was even in the first two Baldur's Gates. In some dialogues, you could even break the 4th wall with rudeness and nothing, all normal people consider Baldur's Gates masterpieces. Of course, Redick is not an idiot, he is just a personification of the authors of the game and nothing more. He is an empty fucking nothing. He has no motives other than the most obvious, no character that would distinguish him from the crowd. Such people are literally the pinnacle of our world. Go look at Musk, Eminem, Trump, a bunch of random dictators from Africa, etc. Isn't that enough for you? They literally hold the world by the balls thanks to their personal qualities which are almost always negative in the opinion of all sorts of random clowns who have devoted too much time to philosophy. It's funny to listen to such nonsense about racism from you. Heinrich Kramer, Pierre de Lancre, Matthew Hopkins, these names don't mean anything to you? Well, google them, lol. I have a strong feeling that I'm talking to another flat-earther, lmao. Bro, just because a city is a trading city doesn't mean there is no racism there. Google how people lived in Istanbul under the Ottoman Empire or any other large cities. Almost always, foreigners were evicted to separate areas so that there would be no misunderstandings between locals and visitors. I don't fucking know who taught you history, but that person doesn't deserve his diploma. No, fucking Luka from Monster Girl Quest. What does random shit from Nitroplus have to do with it? I have full respect for Urobochi Gen, but his sci-fi is so-so. Your animation is so-so, to put it mildly, especially compared to the people I gave as an example. Look again at the works of Itte Umezawa and Takeda Hiromitsu, that's how animation should look, not like yours, you can also look at the works of NTRMAN, his animation is also not bad. The difference between Yujiro and Baki is that Yujiro created his destiny and his life entirely by himself. He is the author of his own destiny. And Baki has been trying to surpass his father his whole life, first for revenge, and then for approval. They are not even on the same level, lol. To live a life of your own complete self-control or to be another NPC, for me the choice is obvious. Cool, I thought we were adults here who had outgrown the belief in first love and other nonsense, but it turned out that I was talking to some naive fool. It's even really cute when you meet such a naive cutie on a porn site and have long dialogues with him, lmao. And Yujiro doesn't achieve anything, firstly because he's obviously not the main character, and secondly, he's already achieved everything. The whole world fears him and trembles before him. Are you suggesting sending him into space so that he can also strike fear into aliens? It's funny, by the way, that your main character from your own game, according to your logic, also doesn't do anything and doesn't achieve anything. Except for random fucks with whores. By the way, wouldn't you like to introduce venereal diseases into the game, since you're making a "realistic game about consequences"?