VN Ren'Py Abandoned Primal Instinct [v0.07] [SilkandMilkProductions]

[Walter Victor]

Everything is money, he isn't an asshole, he is just a simple guy who tries to make money. He isn't an artist tho. A true artist would make his work shine instead of begging for money in advance.

Making money is a good thing. Starting a game, producing several updates, abandoning the game, and then starting a brand new game is NOT a good way to attract paying customers to your endeavors. People have been known to become pissed off when a developer does this, and believe there is no benefit to playing the new game.

One's reputation is a precious thing to just squander away.

 

[Avaron1974]

Everything is money, he isn't an asshole, he is just a simple guy who tries to make money. He isn't an artist tho. A true artist would make his work shine instead of begging for money in advance.

Making money isn't asshole behaviour.

Starting a game, telling your fans if they don't pay more you will abandon it, abandoning it because more money didn't appear, starting a new game telling your fans if it doesn't make X amount of money after a few updates you will abandon this project too ...... THAT is asshole behaviour.

Since then the dev has lost the majority of the player base he'd built up and will never recover because nobody trusts him.

He's basically shit on his own chances to make money and now he's fucked.

 

[GandalfTheGrey91]

Everything is money, he isn't an asshole, he is just a simple guy who tries to make money. He isn't an artist tho. A true artist would make his work shine instead of begging for money in advance.

Dude. I don't go to work and quit after a few days cuz I have to work for my money ^^ he is an artist cuz he creates the same content like other devs in here. He's also a begger.

 

[dparadise]

His reputation is shattered. I wouldn't call him an asshole, I rather call it stupidity and a lost touch on reality.

Fame and fortune does not happen over night! It costs hard work, earning trust, showing your skills, honing those skills and show you care about what you are starting up.

You won't make it if you show you will abandon if you don't get what you want, that's childish and spoiled brat behaviour. Your income will come, when you show devotion to your project.

I refuse to look at his new project, lost trust and ignore the dev completely. I was interested in supporting him, once he reached a few more versions, as then he shows he cares about his story. He lost all that and I'm very sure I'm not the only one.

 

[Avaron1974]

I refuse to look at his new project,

So did everyone else.

Like I said, he's fucked himself over.

He's gone from steadily growing to losing everything and only has himself to blame.

Reason people call him an asshole is because as well as doing dumb fuck things like abandoning games to start another one thinking that will bring in money, he has an attitude problem.

 

[dolfe67]

He said he's not a hobbyist, he wants to be paid for his time like a regular job. That's not the right attitude, everyone starts as a hobbyist until they can make enough money with supporters to work full time, or stay hobbyist if not enough money or just abandon the project if the main goal is money

 

[Avaron1974]

He said he's not a hobbyist, he wants to be paid for his time like a regular job. That's not the right attitude, everyone starts as a hobbyist until they can make enough money with supporters to work full time, or stay hobbyist if not enough money or just abandon the project if the main goal is money

I don't mind devs that have their eye on the money, it's when they tell us they are going to abandon a game if they don't make enough where it gets ridiculous.

The dev here was growing steadily. If he'd finished this then he would probably have been making enough to call it a job by the end but no, he fucked himself.

Now he's got zero chance of ever making a living doing this.

He went from a dev with a massive amount of potential with a game people were enjoying to one of the biggest jokes on the site.

The last dev to pull what this dev pulled was BrightSunStudio and he got laughed off the site. He was building up slowly and completed 2 games then went the start then abandon route if the new game didn't make over 1k I think I was, within 2 months.

He even made alt accounts to try it. After 4 or 5 games pulling that he'd lost everything.

Now people don't go for any of that shit. We all warned this dev before he abandoned Primal, we warned him multiple times but he knew better and now look. Exactly what we all said would happen did indeed happen and he's screwed over any chance he has of making a career out of this.

How did that song by The Hives go?

Ahh yes, Hate to say I told you so.

 

[a1fox3]

I too was on the verge of supporting this game but the dev screwed up and demanded money or else and I will never support anyone who demands money like this.

 

[Ass Fan]

I really hope that oh ( Primal Instinct ) returns one of my favorite romance games and the only one so far that I can't cheat on my girlfriend lol it's even bizarre because in the other games I don't care much about it.

 

[Avaron1974]

I really hope that oh ( Primal Instinct ) returns one of my favorite romance games and the only one so far that I can't cheat on my girlfriend lol it's even bizarre because in the other games I don't care much about it.

This I can say with 100% certainty, it's never coming back.

 

[Ass Fan]

This I can say with 100% certainty, it's never coming back.

From the comments I saw that Dev demanded money to continue with the game now if I'm wrong correct me please this is one of the reasons the game is abandoned then? because if that's the case he made a real stupidity because the game had a great future if that's the case it's sad to know that another game was destroyed by Dev himself

 

[Avaron1974]

From the comments I saw that Dev demanded money to continue with the game now if I'm wrong correct me please this is one of the reasons the game is abandoned then? because if that's the case he made a real stupidity because the game had a great future if that's the case it's sad to know that another game was destroyed by Dev himself

Dev demanding a certain amount of money or he was going to abandon the game. Shockingly people decided not to cave to his demands and he didn't make that money and then the game was abandoned.

Dev then started another game demanding money or he'd also abandon that one.

I know this is probably going to sound incredibly surprising but that game also didn't make the money he wanted.

Rather than grow slowly as he was doing and eventually make the money he wanted naturally, the dev decided he wanted to make himself look foolish publically and kill his own career.

After being the sites laughing stock because we all warned him this would happen and he refused to listen, we think he may have given up completely.

Unless he pulls a BrightSunStudio and makes a few alts, tries to release games that way while also demanding money to give away who it is.

To be honest, I thought it was BrightSun at first but then again, he has a distinct way of rendering and his women have a certain look. I suppose he could have changed things up but would he really make the same mistakes all over again?

 

[Ass Fan]

Dev demanding a certain amount of money or he was going to abandon the game. Shockingly people decided not to cave to his demands and he didn't make that money and then the game was abandoned.

Dev then started another game demanding money or he'd also abandon that one.

I know this is probably going to sound incredibly surprising but that game also didn't make the money he wanted.

Rather than grow slowly as he was doing and eventually make the money he wanted naturally, the dev decided he wanted to make himself look foolish publically and kill his own career.

After being the sites laughing stock because we all warned him this would happen and he refused to listen, we think he may have given up completely.

Unless he pulls a BrightSunStudio and makes a few alts, tries to release games that way while also demanding money to give away who it is.

To be honest, I thought it was BrightSun at first but then again, he has a distinct way of rendering and his women have a certain look. I suppose he could have changed things up but would he really make the same mistakes all over again?

Ah I get it now but I must say I was surprised that Primal Instinct didn't give him the money he expected but he was a fool like you said it changed the way he was developing his game it was his mistake.

I understand it wasn't lack of warnings now on the part of ( SilkandMilkProductions ) he had good advice, from everyone here... But still didn't want to follow them as the saying goes he self-destructed for his ignorance and you're right (BrightSun) are very similar even the characters of both games are similar, of course, with some differences.

Yes, he could have changed all that, but he insisted on his own mistake, I think he would have made the same mistakes by not thinking too much about his games and his supporters.

 

[Avaron1974]

I was surprised that Primal Instinct didn't give him the money he expected

It would have done if he had just carried on. His sub numbers were rising slowly. Some of us take longer to back devs than others do. Eventually he would have made the money he wanted to and more.

The problem the dev has is he's been told his work is exceptional 1 too many times and developed an ego.

 

[Hornyman2]

Again a abandoned game DDDDDDDDD

 

[Avaron1974]

Again a abandoned game DDDDDDDDD

2 years ago.

 

[Astrid Hofferson]

Everything is money, he isn't an asshole, he is just a simple guy who tries to make money. He isn't an artist tho. A true artist would make his work shine instead of begging for money in advance.

What kind of works are in your signature?

 

[kekelops1]

What kind of works are in your signature?

Pandora's Box and Vampire Lady from the last Resident Evil game.

 

[Astrid Hofferson]

Pandora's Box and Vampire Lady from the last Resident Evil game.

Thanks!

 

[Bfrop]

Try never. This game has been abandoned, and the developers have shifted their energies into a new game, Heir Apparent. Why? Because they weren't making enough money off of this one. It remains to be seen whether this new game will fare any better. I refuse to play it, because I will not commit any of my time to a game where the developers are not committed to anything but making money off it, and will drop it at the first sign they aren't. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for developers profiting from their work. I just want them to make a plan for a game and stick to it. If they don't, I'm out.

Wait Heir Apparent is his? Tremendous talent behind this.
That guy just lack the patience to pull himself above the lot.
He's like a high maintenance escort with a mouth too big for his own good.