Unreal Engine Project Extermination: Operation GroundZeroes [Phase 2 - 2023-07-16] [MATEYDEV]

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FruitSmoothie

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Sorry to bother you, I figured out 4 (only happens if you "slam" into the ladder running while pressing the interaction button, the animation to climbs fires before the holster animation, that gets done after you get off the ladder lol), but I really cannot reproduce 1, can you tell me the specific steps to reproduce it?
I didn't realize it was that rare of a bug until your message. Just tried to recreate where/how I remembered it happening and found out it's tied into recently climbing up a ledge. Here's a vid (I think streamable vids only last a day now, so hopefully you see it before then):



I'll make it a shitty gif just in case.
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I didn't realize it was that rare of a bug until your message. Just tried to recreate where/how I remembered it happening and found out it's tied into recently climbing up a ledge. Here's a vid (I think streamable vids only last a day now, so hopefully you see it before then):



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Congrats, you made the Dev go WTF lol

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Alket

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I noticed at the start it says character presets. I imagine at some point there is gonna be some kind of character customization?
Yes, there will be character customization (no sliders, just presets or different part selection) and probably limited to the face, body customization may introduce issues with animations so don't hold your breath for it...
 
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when it is daytime, it has this bug of an extremely exaggerated bloom, in the graphic options there is no way to deactivate it, does anyone know how to solve this problem?
 

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While I TOTALLY agree with you that there are no reliable ways to advertise an adult game, expecially in the western market, I'm referring to the fact of having paywalled Patreon builds shared alongside the free samples; there are developers that are more open to streamline the build release on sites like this to keep people interested gaining support of those that would, others that are panicking and thinking that releasing stuff for free will prevent people from subscribing, "since they can get the stuff for free, why subscribe at all?" so release a sneak peak to build the interest and convince people to unlock more...both are viable ways to see things and are up to personal preference IMO, and you can guess where Matt stands xD

So yeah, piracy is bad, sharing is caring...but sometimes too much can hurt the development...points of view...
All games on F95 started off free and yet Mateydev ended up with nearly 900 Patreon subs so that logic doesn't quite work.

Look it is what it is, greed, a lot of companies don't like giving split to Steam so they left Steam and tried to start their own platforms and whatnot... only they forgot one key factor all their customers discovered them through Steam.

I think a lot of adult game devs make that error in judgment treating the sharing of paywalled versions as piracy. It isn't, it is free marketing for your game. The more your paid version gets shared the more people that will support you on Patreon

It is worth noting that we aren't buying a product we are SUPPORTING a dev we like. BIG BIG difference. We aren't paying customers we are SUPPORTERS. We aren't paying for the paywalled version as in you have product X and we pay you Y amount to receive product X... That is NOT what Patreon is!!!

Patreon (for adult games) is you have product X that is free, so we pay you Y amount as we think you deserve money for the effort and hard work you've put into your game

The paywalled versions is not something that can be pirated by the very site where you got all your customers from. That is completely impossible. No, what the paywalled versions are, are an extra benefit for those who do support you. Saves your supporters the effort of going to F95 or waiting for it to get uploaded to F95 and just says to your supporters this is what you get as appreciation for your support

The fact that paywalled version gets shared as well won't diminish the amount of Patreon subs you get, if anything it will increase it as the amount a Patreon supporter will put is usually just based on how much they want to give the dev and not based on the actual benefits. At least not when it comes to adult games

For other Patreon projects people will base their support tier on the benefits, but for adult games the mentality is completely different

Besides there are other benefits that many projects give can't be pirated like access to private areas on the Discord server, name gets added in the game, and at some tiers even that the supporter gets to suggest characters/h-animations/etc...

For western adult games, F95 cannot be seen as piracy (for Japanese RPGM games is a different story as they already have a customer base and paid platform where they earn money) as F95 is literally where 100% of your customer base is and where 100% of your supporters come from

And I do think treating your paying customers (or in this case paying supporters) as pirates, like what game companies have done with stuff like Denuvo, will only end up causing you to lose supporters in the long run rather than gain them.
 
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I would also like to address the enormous rant that MoreNow has splattered all over, while knowing that this is a bad idea and that I should just hit the ignore button...so here we go:



What do you know about the development cycle of the first Project? because yes, they started in 2 (or more, doesn't matter), than one guy didn't want to make Adult games, he bolted, Matt remained...now, imagine how early in the development cycle of an adult game could this have happened and answer your own question; no I'll help, because I'm not sure you can make the connection yourself: if a guy don't want to make a NSFW project than every NSFW aspect is Matt's, who would have access to the assets and all of that, if not the guy making it?

Now, to further make my point and to argument the fact that you, probably not a even developer yourself, have no idea of what you're talking about:

The development of the original project S7/PU started back in 2020, Patreon opened up in August 2020, that is not even 2 years up until now, and we all know that these things need time to start moving and gain traction; a project as complex as that needs budget, that he didn't have, so he decided to alt the development of his big dream project and start with something simple, to make a name for himself, this was July 2021, then a HDD failure happened (because shit happens, that's life, if everything in your life has always gone smoothly I envy you) in December of the same year.

Despite all of this, that would have made any other dev quit, he's still going at it, while people like you, knowing nothing, with half baked paranoia and incomplete informations, spewing venom and misinformation are trying your best to boycott a project you are not even supporting r/iamverysmart/.

This guy has, in the span of 2 years produced 3 playable PoCs, he is trying to find his footing, he is settled with this one, even has a planned release date to look forward too...now, is it perfect? no, will it be perfect? no, will improve with time? quite probably...

One last thing, I've looked at your review and expected nothing more than that, but let me tell you something:

"its supposed to be a porn game, not a box hauling game or a shooting game - its supposed to actually be a porn game."

I'm not one to grab pieces out of contest, so y'all go read it in full, but please, MoreNow, tell me who are you exactly to say to the Dev what his game is or is not supposed to be? This game wants to become a survival with heavy adult themes and horror as icing, this is not a walking galley; if you want that, I suggest you look somewhere else, you are in the wrong place.
*Review as been removed

I'd like to keep people informed here, nothing more; I believe that this project can become a great game, given the time it needs, if you don't like it, move to another game/project, why are you even playing the failed sjw throwing not facts but speculation, no one's keeping you here, move on, if you wanna stay, you're welcome to it, I'd ask to kindly be constructive.

Sorry, truly, I've been impolite and I recognize that, but sometimes it's necessary to raise the voice to make a point.
I can guarantee I've been a paying patreon supporter longer than you Alket. I've also been in his discord longer than you.

I don't believe the hard drive failure. I don't believe the solo dev anything.

I can take delays. I can take changing his mind. I can take just about anything.
But I won't accept lying or BS excuses.
 

Alket

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All games on F95 started off free and yet Mateydev ended up with nearly 900 Patreon subs so that logic doesn't quite work.

Look it is what it is, greed, a lot of companies don't like giving split to Steam so they left Steam and tried to start their own platforms and whatnot... only they forgot one key factor all their customers discovered them through Steam.

I think a lot of adult game devs make that error in judgment treating the sharing of paywalled versions as piracy. It isn't, it is free marketing for your game. The more your paid version gets shared the more people that will support you on Patreon

It is worth noting that we aren't buying a product we are SUPPORTING a dev we like. BIG BIG difference. We aren't paying customers we are SUPPORTERS. We aren't paying for the paywalled version as in you have product X and we pay you Y amount to receive product X... That is NOT what Patreon is!!!

Patreon (for adult games) is you have product X that is free, so we pay you Y amount as we think you deserve money for the effort and hard work you've put into your game

The paywalled versions is not something that can be pirated by the very site where you got all your customers from. That is completely impossible. No, what the paywalled versions are, are an extra benefit for those who do support you. Saves your supporters the effort of going to F95 or waiting for it to get uploaded to F95 and just says to your supporters this is what you get as appreciation for your support

The fact that paywalled version gets shared as well won't diminish the amount of Patreon subs you get, if anything it will increase it as the amount a Patreon supporter will put is usually just based on how much they want to give the dev and not based on the actual benefits. At least not when it comes to adult games

For other Patreon projects people will base their support tier on the benefits, but for adult games the mentality is completely different

Besides there are other benefits that many projects give can't be pirated like access to private areas on the Discord server, name gets added in the game, and at some tiers even that the supporter gets to suggest characters/h-animations/etc...

For western adult games, F95 cannot be seen as piracy (for Japanese RPGM games is a different story as they already have a customer base and paid platform where they earn money) as F95 is literally where 100% of your customer base is and where 100% of your supporters come from

And I do think treating your paying customers (or in this case paying supporters) as pirates, like what game companies have done with stuff like Denuvo, will only end up causing you to lose supporters in the long run rather than gain them.
I will not argue with this, because your point is clear and I agree with you, I found out about his work in here too after all...and I'm working trying to change his mind bit by bit, after all, people who wouldn't support him (or whatever project) wouldn't do it regardless of free version or paid version available here...sadly, maybe due to the fact that he is eastern, he still sees things a bit differently, he's very protective of this stuff and there are a people on Discord that really fuel this mindset...I hope that with the next versions this will change, expecially after he sees that he's not losing patrons...
 
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