I'm just interested, does he really expect a generic action game with a hot protagonist to succeed on steam? I think this will be a total failure if he only enables adult stuff through mods. Like who actually cares about the "game" itself?
Sorry for being so blunt, but for someone who's been following the game since the first prototype where it was a sidescrolling run or be raped game, I didn't expect it to turn out this way
To be fair to both you and Mato, you have a point and a good one at that, however it hinches in the asumption of and "adult game", whereas if the game has a decent plot and gameplay, it can stand as just another game on it's own, further more (at least in my caase) this is probably the only avenue for something like MGS V that is not MSG itself you know?, given the plans of capture and rescue operators and the survival elements, it's already a good proposition for an actual game. That said tho the price tag at the end will be a mayor point to consider, but Mato can worry about it later... If you allow me an opinion I'd say "take the adult content as an extra on top, like adult mods for skirym sort of".
mugijos95 nailed the point here: of all the many adult games I've played and tried in the years, I cannot name more than a few that actually felt good to play and experience, practically all of them where go from A to B, see sex scene, move on...and that's not considering the thousands of VNs disguised as games.
No gameplay, no challenge, nothing to experience beside the sex scenes...there are very few devs that are trying to merge actual gameplay and adult elements, for example, speaking of this genre, only Matto, Devolution (Delta Zone) and Horn (Yuna) come to mind...in a sea of content and updates released daily.
If you don't care about the gameplay aspect of the game but only want the sex bits of it, that's fine, we have different expectation or interests, I'm searching for a game, maybe this is not for you, no issue with that.
And regarding the mod, with all the crackdowns that are happening on Patreon and in some markets, it was deemed necessary to separate the sfw and porn with a mod, not ideal, granted, but safer. Most important: this way he can actually go ballistic with it and truly uncensored, allowing third parties that are more interested and/or adept to that singular aspect to even take over, because let's not pretend that Matto isn't aware that the biggest chunk of supporters wants adult stuff to be part of the game, he knows that, so he's not gonna drop it.
This is a website widely known as hosting adult games, mainly focused on sex, you're acting like the reception here is surprising or even annoying but what did you expect? Every other platform are circle jerk hug boxes so there's no surprise that he isn't getting any push-back there. Patreon/discord is where his supporters gather so of course they'll go along with whatever he says or does, that's the point of those platforms, I've never seen a discord channel that wasn't moderated to be an echo chamber. I'm not saying he should follow what is said here to the letter but you're gonna get your most honest opinions from people who aren't giving you money, even if half of them are indecipherable "ned mor bubs n vag plz" like you're making it out to be.
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Quite frankly, as part of
this community, I can tell you that you kinda missed the point on my post you quoted, let me try to clarify:
this community holds close to no value regarding feedbacks, suggestions or even advertisement for the game at this point, because what
this community wants might no longer be what the game actually targets, maybe never was, because even in the first iteration it was clear that, while sex was used as shock value to reel in audience, no point denying that, the focus on the gameplay and polish of that aspect was paramount. But Matto has no choice regarding being here, he was dragged here, the whole:
it's on the OP for a reason. You say that many discovered him through this site? Again, correct, but you don't mindlessly start giving money to someone, you inform yourself about the project first, then you start throwing money...and you can always stop.
Also, when you say something along the lines of "
since people on those platforms (Patreon, Discord ,Twitter) are following and/or paying him they'll go along with everything, while here, from those who are not giving you money and pirating your game illegally you can get unfiltered truth", sorry, but I call bullshit on that, we're not kids (I hope that there are no kids here, but I have doubts): if I give money to someone to keep working on a project, if I don't like what the project is or where it's going anymore, I first complain then pull support and move on. So it's ever more important to "please" the Patrons, not
this community. If a Patron is not satisfied he
should voice his concerns, if what he wants doesn't align with the project (whatever that project might be) anymore then he
should leave...seriously...what are we even talking about here? The people who follow him and support him are those interested in his project the most, period. If you don't like it why would you even support it? It makes no sense...the most honest critiques can only come from those who are invested in it, even if not monetarily.
