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Unreal Engine Project Extermination: Operation GroundZeroes [Phase 2 - 2023-07-16] [MATEYDEV]

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Aug 31, 2021
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You make an investment, no guarantees in contract writing, sometimes the investments don't pay off.
Sure. But there is also a line between someone failing to deliver a product because of XYZ reason, and or because the one you're sponsoring sucks your money out and runs away at last second: A scammer.

Look at HW, you can't exactly claim that the people who invested in him "got unlucky", same with Pure Onyx or other scam game #57.

A normal game company would get sued to shit for pulling the stuff they do. And, that's why I've mentioned accountability so much in the comments I've made. Because its so important to be on the lookout for potential scammers and calling them out. Or developers who can't be relied upon to deliver on what they've promised.

As said, game looks good. And it sucks Matey has to deal with entitled people. Most of the stuff I am saying are just personal beliefs of where success or failure lie, as well as theorizing. I strongly believe Matey would find more success by going full porn or no porn at all rather than tip-toeing in the middle. Because you'd end up with a product that would only gain the limitations that porn games have while not getting the support of the porn game audience because of subpar porn content (I can't comment on whether it would be subpar or not because of the current stage of development. I am merely guessing from what would be possible in a reasonable amount of time).

Game looks amazing so far. And there is a great likelihood I'll buy it. But I am mostly invested because veering more towards the porn would set a new standard that could and would change the H-game industry as we see it. And that's something I'd (personally) like to see. The game failing due to tip-toeing would not let that come to fruition, which would hurt paying and non-paying people. It would suck to see it not reach the potential it could.

The current strategy of keeping the porn as DLC/Mod could work. Giving tools to help mod it would greatly expand the possibilities. But you'd have to catch one of the audiences (H-game playing or non H-game playing people) to actually make that a reality.

Best of luck.
 

Alket

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Sure. But there is also a line between someone failing to deliver a product because of XYZ reason, and or because the one you're sponsoring sucks your money out and runs away at last second: A scammer.

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And that's absolutely spot on, there have been quite a lot of scams or throwaway projects in the past years, this contributed to the current state of affairs where if a project is deemed "too ambitious", it's automatically branded a scam.
The problem here is people not even giving the game a chance to exist, or people that starts throwing hands at the first speed-bump...even when the dev has been consistent with the bi-monthly updates for the past years.

For the rest, we'll see in the future how things turn out.
 

FTFaceless

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Jan 9, 2023
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And that's absolutely spot on, there have been quite a lot of scams or throwaway projects in the past years, this contributed to the current state of affairs where if a project is deemed "too ambitious", it's automatically branded a scam.
The problem here is people not even giving the game a chance to exist, or people that starts throwing hands at the first speed-bump...even when the dev has been consistent with the bi-monthly updates for the past years.

For the rest, we'll see in the future how things turn out.
TL;DR
Don't brand anything "scam" until it turns into one :geek:
On the other side: people have right to be suspicious about such stuff cause of precedents.
 

Motonim

Newbie
Oct 29, 2018
91
76
Progress report from 18.04 :

"

OGZ: Progress Report 4/18/2024 Completion of Overhauled Combat Fundamental Task

Hey guys, how are you guys doing?
I could manage to get the Overhauled Combat Systems in place in the last 2 weeks and this took me 4 months to actually get it in place. There are still some missing mechanics such as Throwing Object, Stealth Crawling and Guarding for Melee Weapon but these 3 can come later since the combat fundamental is in place now. 1/3 of the systems is already finished which is a big deal (Based on my consistent plan and goal)
The art is at lowest priority currently since the game development is pretty much all about the coding rather than about the art and graphics. I'm actually excited to focus on the quality of art but the code and system must come first.
The art and graphics will be at my highest priority once the game systems and mechanics are all in place (and your guys' eyes will be pleased, I'm sure of it, not a difficult part also)
My plan is to focus on the World Fundamental and fill it with the actual game mechanic (no more concept mechanics) and my first next task is Safe Room System which is heavily inspired by MHW's tent and Death Stranding's Private Room.
Anyway, let's have a look at the stuff I did in the last 2 weeks.
Systems
Additional Progress on Downed/Staggered State System

Now the sequence system will run another intro animations for the Struggle Sequence while the character is downed. Nothing much to it but it sure does make the movement more believable.
Bullet Hit Impact Reaction System (V2)
Speaking of Firearm combat, I found it clucky and wasn't good enough especially the feel of impact. So I've overhauled Hit Reaction system especially for bullet/firearm. Now player can shoot the enemy in the weak spots such as head or legs to make them stun lock and send them ragdolled afterwards.
Advanced Custom Keybind System (V1)

Player can now custom the input and keys themselves. The system also supports different type of input pressing such as hold the key until specific second or release the key before specific second.
Adjustments
Adjusted and Improved AI Behavior

AI now will stand still for 10 seconds after they successfully or failed to reach their destination which opens the opportunity for player to stealth kill the enemy. Enemy will never detect the player movement if player is walking or crouching.
Rebalanced Firearm Damaging and Controlling
Player will still lose the firearm accuracy while walking but it's not too punishing anymore. Now shooting while walking is possible to hit the target.
Firearm hitbox size is increased based on the distance between the shooter and the hit location.
Taking cover will boost the firearm accuracy by x1.5.
Headshot damage bonus is reduced from x15 to x3.5 and bullet close ranged damage bonus is reduced from x5 to x1.5.
It's so to speak that the firearm just got heavily nerfed but in exchange of much higher ammo capacity and accuracy.
Adjusted and Improved Movement
Now player can run while switching and reloading weapon. Can also dash while reloading but player can't dash during early part of melee attack animation (can still dodge)
Tasks
My focus will be at the Safe Room System but once it's game ready, I'll focus on adding the variation of the humanoid mutants into the game next. Overhauling Quick Item Menu is also on my plan. Not sure if the next build will contain free roam map or just procedurally generated dungeon map.
Closed Testing Result for Combat Fundamental Stress Test
I've got the test result better than I've expected as the combat is actually stable and has fewer bugs and issues than I've imagined (which I've already solved since days ago)
Mod and Plugin are working and correctly loaded. Manually Patching also has no issues. (Which is now a clear path for me and Gato about adding the additional contents via mods)
I hope the Closed Testers will drop some feedback here if they got time.
Drawing
You guys can expect the drawing to drop on Pixiv in a few days. This time for real.
That's all for today. I hope you guys enjoyed the progress I've done so far.
Have a nice day, see you guys next post.
Matto.
"


He does what he has to do.

Having base graphics to then work on core mechanics is important. Having the base graphics, he focuses now as he says in mechanics implementation.

If people only look for porn, there are many hubs. But games with porn means there is a need for mechanic implementations. VN / renpy's and other type of porn games like that, also have a need for mechanics, even if those may be easier to dev and implement.

Here, about full fledged 3d game, may it be made on UE or Unity, there is a time you're forced to focus on pure coding, for the sake of making a product you may find good.

Let see how the project continues to evolve. For now, Matey seems consistent. Not towards the "players" but toward himself, which is better than on the other hand. He seems to be more looking into a product he may be "proud" of, instead of a product of pure appeal to everyone.

"proud" because porn may not be smth we may be in fact really proud of.
 

winterzone

Newbie
Nov 27, 2020
36
52
Progress report from 18.04 :

"

OGZ: Progress Report 4/18/2024 Completion of Overhauled Combat Fundamental Task

Hey guys, how are you guys doing?
I could manage to get the Overhauled Combat Systems in place in the last 2 weeks and this took me 4 months to actually get it in place. There are still some missing mechanics such as Throwing Object, Stealth Crawling and Guarding for Melee Weapon but these 3 can come later since the combat fundamental is in place now. 1/3 of the systems is already finished which is a big deal (Based on my consistent plan and goal)
The art is at lowest priority currently since the game development is pretty much all about the coding rather than about the art and graphics. I'm actually excited to focus on the quality of art but the code and system must come first.
The art and graphics will be at my highest priority once the game systems and mechanics are all in place (and your guys' eyes will be pleased, I'm sure of it, not a difficult part also)
My plan is to focus on the World Fundamental and fill it with the actual game mechanic (no more concept mechanics) and my first next task is Safe Room System which is heavily inspired by MHW's tent and Death Stranding's Private Room.
Anyway, let's have a look at the stuff I did in the last 2 weeks.
Systems
Additional Progress on Downed/Staggered State System

Now the sequence system will run another intro animations for the Struggle Sequence while the character is downed. Nothing much to it but it sure does make the movement more believable.
Bullet Hit Impact Reaction System (V2)
Speaking of Firearm combat, I found it clucky and wasn't good enough especially the feel of impact. So I've overhauled Hit Reaction system especially for bullet/firearm. Now player can shoot the enemy in the weak spots such as head or legs to make them stun lock and send them ragdolled afterwards.
Advanced Custom Keybind System (V1)

Player can now custom the input and keys themselves. The system also supports different type of input pressing such as hold the key until specific second or release the key before specific second.
Adjustments
Adjusted and Improved AI Behavior

AI now will stand still for 10 seconds after they successfully or failed to reach their destination which opens the opportunity for player to stealth kill the enemy. Enemy will never detect the player movement if player is walking or crouching.
Rebalanced Firearm Damaging and Controlling
Player will still lose the firearm accuracy while walking but it's not too punishing anymore. Now shooting while walking is possible to hit the target.
Firearm hitbox size is increased based on the distance between the shooter and the hit location.
Taking cover will boost the firearm accuracy by x1.5.
Headshot damage bonus is reduced from x15 to x3.5 and bullet close ranged damage bonus is reduced from x5 to x1.5.
It's so to speak that the firearm just got heavily nerfed but in exchange of much higher ammo capacity and accuracy.
Adjusted and Improved Movement
Now player can run while switching and reloading weapon. Can also dash while reloading but player can't dash during early part of melee attack animation (can still dodge)
Tasks
My focus will be at the Safe Room System but once it's game ready, I'll focus on adding the variation of the humanoid mutants into the game next. Overhauling Quick Item Menu is also on my plan. Not sure if the next build will contain free roam map or just procedurally generated dungeon map.
Closed Testing Result for Combat Fundamental Stress Test
I've got the test result better than I've expected as the combat is actually stable and has fewer bugs and issues than I've imagined (which I've already solved since days ago)
Mod and Plugin are working and correctly loaded. Manually Patching also has no issues. (Which is now a clear path for me and Gato about adding the additional contents via mods)
I hope the Closed Testers will drop some feedback here if they got time.
Drawing
You guys can expect the drawing to drop on Pixiv in a few days. This time for real.
That's all for today. I hope you guys enjoyed the progress I've done so far.
Have a nice day, see you guys next post.
Matto.
"


He does what he has to do.

Having base graphics to then work on core mechanics is important. Having the base graphics, he focuses now as he says in mechanics implementation.

If people only look for porn, there are many hubs. But games with porn means there is a need for mechanic implementations. VN / renpy's and other type of porn games like that, also have a need for mechanics, even if those may be easier to dev and implement.

Here, about full fledged 3d game, may it be made on UE or Unity, there is a time you're forced to focus on pure coding, for the sake of making a product you may find good.

Let see how the project continues to evolve. For now, Matey seems consistent. Not towards the "players" but toward himself, which is better than on the other hand. He seems to be more looking into a product he may be "proud" of, instead of a product of pure appeal to everyone.

"proud" because porn may not be smth we may be in fact really proud of.
thanks sherlock for telling us that 3d games need focus on pure coding
 

barr34

Newbie
Mar 3, 2024
19
62
Progress report from 18.04 :

"

OGZ: Progress Report 4/18/2024 Completion of Overhauled Combat Fundamental Task

Hey guys, how are you guys doing?
I could manage to get the Overhauled Combat Systems in place in the last 2 weeks and this took me 4 months to actually get it in place. There are still some missing mechanics such as Throwing Object, Stealth Crawling and Guarding for Melee Weapon but these 3 can come later since the combat fundamental is in place now. 1/3 of the systems is already finished which is a big deal (Based on my consistent plan and goal)
The art is at lowest priority currently since the game development is pretty much all about the coding rather than about the art and graphics. I'm actually excited to focus on the quality of art but the code and system must come first.
The art and graphics will be at my highest priority once the game systems and mechanics are all in place (and your guys' eyes will be pleased, I'm sure of it, not a difficult part also)
My plan is to focus on the World Fundamental and fill it with the actual game mechanic (no more concept mechanics) and my first next task is Safe Room System which is heavily inspired by MHW's tent and Death Stranding's Private Room.
Anyway, let's have a look at the stuff I did in the last 2 weeks.
Systems
Additional Progress on Downed/Staggered State System

Now the sequence system will run another intro animations for the Struggle Sequence while the character is downed. Nothing much to it but it sure does make the movement more believable.
Bullet Hit Impact Reaction System (V2)
Speaking of Firearm combat, I found it clucky and wasn't good enough especially the feel of impact. So I've overhauled Hit Reaction system especially for bullet/firearm. Now player can shoot the enemy in the weak spots such as head or legs to make them stun lock and send them ragdolled afterwards.
Advanced Custom Keybind System (V1)

Player can now custom the input and keys themselves. The system also supports different type of input pressing such as hold the key until specific second or release the key before specific second.
Adjustments
Adjusted and Improved AI Behavior

AI now will stand still for 10 seconds after they successfully or failed to reach their destination which opens the opportunity for player to stealth kill the enemy. Enemy will never detect the player movement if player is walking or crouching.
Rebalanced Firearm Damaging and Controlling
Player will still lose the firearm accuracy while walking but it's not too punishing anymore. Now shooting while walking is possible to hit the target.
Firearm hitbox size is increased based on the distance between the shooter and the hit location.
Taking cover will boost the firearm accuracy by x1.5.
Headshot damage bonus is reduced from x15 to x3.5 and bullet close ranged damage bonus is reduced from x5 to x1.5.
It's so to speak that the firearm just got heavily nerfed but in exchange of much higher ammo capacity and accuracy.
Adjusted and Improved Movement
Now player can run while switching and reloading weapon. Can also dash while reloading but player can't dash during early part of melee attack animation (can still dodge)
Tasks
My focus will be at the Safe Room System but once it's game ready, I'll focus on adding the variation of the humanoid mutants into the game next. Overhauling Quick Item Menu is also on my plan. Not sure if the next build will contain free roam map or just procedurally generated dungeon map.
Closed Testing Result for Combat Fundamental Stress Test
I've got the test result better than I've expected as the combat is actually stable and has fewer bugs and issues than I've imagined (which I've already solved since days ago)
Mod and Plugin are working and correctly loaded. Manually Patching also has no issues. (Which is now a clear path for me and Gato about adding the additional contents via mods)
I hope the Closed Testers will drop some feedback here if they got time.
Drawing
You guys can expect the drawing to drop on Pixiv in a few days. This time for real.
That's all for today. I hope you guys enjoyed the progress I've done so far.
Have a nice day, see you guys next post.
Matto.
"


He does what he has to do.

Having base graphics to then work on core mechanics is important. Having the base graphics, he focuses now as he says in mechanics implementation.

If people only look for porn, there are many hubs. But games with porn means there is a need for mechanic implementations. VN / renpy's and other type of porn games like that, also have a need for mechanics, even if those may be easier to dev and implement.

Here, about full fledged 3d game, may it be made on UE or Unity, there is a time you're forced to focus on pure coding, for the sake of making a product you may find good.

Let see how the project continues to evolve. For now, Matey seems consistent. Not towards the "players" but toward himself, which is better than on the other hand. He seems to be more looking into a product he may be "proud" of, instead of a product of pure appeal to everyone.

"proud" because porn may not be smth we may be in fact really proud of.
We've established this already. Let's wait, hell i might even drop some mula on this. I think this game can go somewhere for real.
 
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