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Would sisters or cousins sharing the same cock in a threesome be considered incest? I would say no, but I assume patreon would disagree with me. Seems if there is any doubt, patreon sees it as being incest.
From my perspective, regardless of what you think about incest in the real world, it's all nonsense. Because in a game, all we have is a portrayal of incest or bestiality. It's not actually happening. How is it any different to porn videos, where actors and actresses pretend to be mothers and sons, fathers and daughters or brothers and sisters? There is no difference. No real person is actually involved in this depiction of incest. There are literally tens of thousands of games depicting people murdering other people in graphic detail, which in real life is a heinous crime, but in games is apparently ok. So why the contradiction in response from so called moral crusaders?
 

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No real person is actually involved in this depiction of incest. There are literally tens of thousands of games depicting people murdering other people in graphic detail, which in real life is a heinous crime, but in games is apparently ok. So why the contradiction in response from so called moral crusaders?
About the incest patch, sorry, I was sure in one of my replies to your posts I had said explicitly, but I am a bit active in this forum lately, so probably it was in a reply to someone else's post that I had said.
There has been an incest patch for a couple of versions now, and it is done by me, so no connection with Zorlun.

We have at least two languages in common, and we had exchanged some posts about it, but otherwise, there is no connection between me and Zorlun, we even live in two different countries, and have different citizenships.
To be on the safe side with Patreon, he did not even say "yes go ahead, and people, install it", he only said "I am not stopping anybody from doing mods, just don't make a copy of my game and make a profit from it".

About your point on the moral crusaders, my guess is that someone would say that it can incite or educate people to do it.
Though honestly, the games here have always (AFAIK) a clear indication about being 18+, while the violent games you refer to end up even in the hands of kids, or are actually targeting kids, which is much worst in terms of "educating" or "making look normal".
That 's why then people are shocked that war (especially modern war) means death and destruction - they think in videogame way, reset and "how many lives do I still have" ?
And you can buy access to the "(fake) incest" videos with real people using the same credit cards you can use on Patreon, so the credit cards making problems is also kind of "two weights, two measures" and hypocrite (they will never really cut accepting porn payments support, too much money to make).
So, as far as my two cents are worth, I would agree with your that there is a bit of hypocrisy in some things :)
 
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From my perspective, regardless of what you think about incest in the real world, it's all nonsense. Because in a game, all we have is a portrayal of incest or bestiality. It's not actually happening. How is it any different to porn videos, where actors and actresses pretend to be mothers and sons, fathers and daughters or brothers and sisters? There is no difference. No real person is actually involved in this depiction of incest. There are literally tens of thousands of games depicting people murdering other people in graphic detail, which in real life is a heinous crime, but in games is apparently ok. So why the contradiction in response from so called moral crusaders?
When it comes to censorship, the only thing that matters is how it will affect their bottom line.
 

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I mean if porn was a big part of Twitter or Facebook's revenue, we would have porn on Twitter and Facebook. Look at how quickly Only Fans backtracked.
The credit card companies would never boycott Facebook or Twitter anyway in a million years. They'd lose a huge chunk of their income overnight. And the moral crusaders would lose the main platforms for getting their opinions heard, as well as generating income to allow them to function at all
 
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The scene will start either at home or at the hotel depending on where Myriam ended last update, with a new little naughty scene with Danny the officer. No other naughty moment on this one, the scene is both here to develop this chapter main plot and to give a breather after some more intense scenes.
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The credit card companies would never boycott Facebook or Twitter anyway in a million years. They'd lose a huge chunk of their income overnight. And the moral crusaders would lose the main platforms for getting their opinions heard, as well as generating income to allow them to function at all
Yes, it all comes back to money.
 

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The scene will start either at home or at the hotel depending on where Myriam ended last update, with a new little naughty scene with Danny the officer. No other naughty moment on this one, the scene is both here to develop this chapter main plot and to give a breather after some more intense scenes.
Her future's so bright, she's gotta wear shades!
 

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From my perspective, regardless of what you think about incest in the real world, it's all nonsense. Because in a game, all we have is a portrayal of incest or bestiality. It's not actually happening. How is it any different to porn videos, where actors and actresses pretend to be mothers and sons, fathers and daughters or brothers and sisters? There is no difference. No real person is actually involved in this depiction of incest. There are literally tens of thousands of games depicting people murdering other people in graphic detail, which in real life is a heinous crime, but in games is apparently ok. So why the contradiction in response from so called moral crusaders?
Well, dunno if you've noticed this, but the moral crusaders hate incestuous roleplay too. You used to be able to search for that stuff on Pornhub, XHamster, etc. but nowadays it's scrubbed away and you can only find stepfamily roleplay stuff, if you're lucky, unless you go to more... specialized sites. You get similar issues with finding rape/forced/non-con roleplay porn, used to be you could find that stuff easily but now it's also gone from mainstream sites.

It's not any kind of principled stand, the truth is they hate all media. It's pure strategy, they just attack whatever is on the furthest edge of social acceptability until it becomes no longer acceptable, then they move on to attacking whatever is now at that borderline. Once they finish their crusade of scrubbing all kink and queerness from the internet by lumping it in the same bucket as **********, they'll move on to scrubbing all vanilla sexuality too. (They're already laying the groundwork for this with their 'Every single girl posting their boobs on OF is actually a sex trafficking victim' narrative.)
 
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Well, dunno if you've noticed this, but the moral crusaders hate incestuous roleplay too. You used to be able to search for that stuff on Pornhub, XHamster, etc. but nowadays it's scrubbed away and you can only find stepfamily roleplay stuff, if you're lucky, unless you go to more... specialized sites. You get similar issues with finding rape/forced/non-con roleplay porn, used to be you could find that stuff easily but now it's also gone from mainstream sites.

It's not any kind of principled stand, the truth is they hate all media. It's pure strategy, they just attack whatever is on the furthest edge of social acceptability until it becomes no longer acceptable, then they move on to attacking whatever is now at that borderline. Once they finish their crusade of scrubbing all kink and queerness from the internet by lumping it in the same bucket as **********, they'll move on to scrubbing all vanilla sexuality too. (They're already laying the groundwork for this with their 'Every single girl posting their boobs on OF is actually a sex trafficking victim' narrative.)
Yeah, I noticed all the Taboo films from the 1980's disappeared from Pornhub during the Purge
 
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