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- Dec 27, 2017
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This is true of every new scene, whether it is to be patched or not. All new scenes take time and resources.
Well, you ARE making the patch, and he hasn't been banned yet. And SOMEBIDY is making the Prometheus patch and providing the assets for it, and the developer hasn't been banned for that either.But the last bit is not completely correct, according to the information received from Zorlun himself. At the time, he indicated Patreon had clearly threatened him of consequences even if he was doing something (like making the incest patch I make) somewhere else - so, unfortunately, he is a limited in what can be associated to his name (or nickname, as far as I know, Zorlun is not his real name)
What can I say here? There are literally scores of incest games here that are also on Patreon and patched. I subscribe on Patreon to several of them. The only ones that have ever been taken down are those that tried to defy Patreon without trying a patch or code/relationship remedy. [i.e. DarkSilver, who abandoned his game, and MRDots Games, who moved his game to a separate platform.]
- May 24, 2018
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Has a pretty easy solution in my honest opinion:Well, honestly, I think if Zorlun had done the scene with the whole team, it would have been rather difficult to justify how Myriam could still react with so much energy (or at all) to the reference to Katherine - after she had been "banging" (or being "banged", not sure which one was more adequate) the entire team, she would probably have been more in an "amoeba" status
So, from that point of view, it was certainly much better this way.
Myriam's mama bear protectiveness toward her daughter snapped her out of subspace in the scene we actually got, and I think it would have done the same if it had been a full gangbang. And I mean, you say that it's better this way, but if Zorlun had implemented an option for Myriam to be so deep into subspace that she lets the boys do whatever they want to Katherine too, I totally would have picked that option.
To make things clear (again), Patreon's T&S team has literally told me that creating a way to give access to patrons to taboo content would be cause for the Patreon's page closure.
Why I have been flagged and not others, well, good question, answer, I don't know, but since they showed me a screenshot of the game on the itchio site a few days after trying sharing it there, I think it was "snitching". Simply said, "I was lucky until I wasn't", but now that I'm on the radar, I have to be extra careful.
Prometheus' patch is not made by me and not made by a developer here, it's made by a third party modder who offered to do it and that being said, I won't go in the technicalities of the "how".
- Feb 7, 2018
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First preview of the next update, following Myriam on her trip to the beach after leaving the school. The scene will be on the longer side, with multiple subscenes, ranging from Myriam first exploring the seaside as she walk Cassius, to Myriam enjoying some leisure time on the beach and having a few "adventures" there.
This scene will explore a bit more Myriam's exhibitionist side for starter, with her fooling around and exposing herself, escalating later on depending on choices, potentially getting Myriam deeper into "trouble" (but don't worry, Cassius is here to keep any trouble makers at bay ^^ ).
The whole scene is not fully written yet and I'm still thinking it over as I work it, the release of the new wave of graphic cards (from which I'm one of the lucky guy that got to catch one before they get out of stock) has gotten me to potentially rethink the scene, since the new card could permit now to work with a lot less limits for my renders. So right now things are going slowly, since I'm waiting for the new card (should arrive tomorrow or so), but I should quickly catch up once I have it.
On another note, to keep you all informed, some family troubles IRL are keeping me busy this month (grandfather having some health problem), so less time to work compared to usual (though no worries, there will be an update as usual at the end of the month).
- May 24, 2018
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I'm sure Cassius will indeed keep all the trouble makers away and protect his precious mistress. Just like he did with Colin in the night walking scene.
For anyone who doesn't know, Patreon's policy is utterly ridiculous in this regard: It's not enough that you don't distribute anything on Patreon itself that violates their community guidelines, but you're also not allowed to do anything on any other site, anywhere, ever, that violates those guidelines. This even applies retroactively when said guidelines change. When Patreon decided to ban hypnosis and transformation content, I know artists who had to delete all their art everywhere lest they lose their patreon page and be made homeless. Just an absolutely monstrous company that hates the creators that make them their money.
- Jun 28, 2022
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Dear Zorlun
Thank you very much for this wonderful great game and wonderful gorgeous Myriam.
Thank you very much for this wonderful great game and wonderful gorgeous Myriam.
The people running Patreon are utter cunts.
- Apr 26, 2017
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About the scene, yes, that was indeed my point, if you noticed, I was not contradicting you, I was agreeing, saying that with time and resources, one can make a patch that does anything, even practically replacing the game.
I think you are then agreeing with me, to use your emphasis a bit reversed, *I AM* making the patch.
I am not Zorlun, so Patreon cannot ban him even if they discover my patch, at least if they keep to their word, because he has nothing to do with the creation and distribution of my patch.
I know what you mean, aside supporting Zorlun, I am supporting also at least one game that has an incest patch, and in that case, made, as far as I recall, by the developer,.
It seems it has to do with how well and how fast they catch you - at the end of the day, I appreciate the need for "due diligence", but we are not paying Patreon to do "moral policing", we are paying them so the pass the money to creators, so they have already gone more than far enough, I would say.
It may also be that Zorlun was unlucky and got on Patreon's side someone especially zealous in his approach, but he has to deal with it, or we will not anymore the game
Did not know about the retroactivity, which even if one assumes some kind of legal reason, is rather bizarre (retroactive law ?) - but never mind, it was already discussed more than once, it is not really a legal matter, it is a matter of Patreon saying "we are the boss".
Well, on the eyes opening, yes, but I am more thinking in terms of the energy to do physical reaction - though I agree the "protective mother bear factor" could also be used.
Though considering your evil
proposition, I think I would associate :-D (I said your proposition is evil, not that I am not evil as well ;-D, in games).Actually, I would even have put it in a bit of a different way, like Katherine arrives home while they are still doing it, watches without them realising it, and especially if she had already seen the scene with Mike the cop (so, her curiosity was already excited), at the mention of her name, and having seen what her mom was doing, decides to also try the experience.
Or that Katherine steps in to help relieve her mom of the workload.
Or at least, she watches, get excited, and fantazises about the possibility.
Or give the four different possibilities (do whatever they want, decides to try, steps in, fantasizes).
Mind you, from virgin (because if I remember well, something in another scene suggested she is still a virgin) to gangbanging, is a big jump, but not in itself impossible, plus, it is a game
.Sorry, hope he gets better soon, though nice you still have him.
- May 2, 2018
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I only found this game for the first time the other day through someone's fan sig. Holy fuck! Been playing it pretty much three days straight after work. Awesome stuff. Every kink it's possible to imagine. Me likee.
Be sure to alternate arms... Can't have you getting one arm like Schwarzenegger in his prime, and the other like an anorexic stick figure!
- May 2, 2018
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I may have to fabricate some kind of machine...Be sure to alternate arms... Can't have you getting one arm like Schwarzenegger in his prime, and the other like an anorexic stick figure!
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Given that it only took one punch from the Bratva Enforcer to KO him, Cassius is definitely a lover, not a fighter. Fending off anyone larger than a small child is probably beyond his abilities.
- May 24, 2018
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As you said, it's not really a legal matter, Patreon's ToS gives them the right to terminate any patreon page for any reason they please, it's just a matter of them saying "we're the boss."
But there actually is precedent for this: If you sign a contract with a business that obligates them to deliver something, that contract will usually include a so-called "morality clause." The idea is, if it turns out that you're a pedophile or something and it's bad publicity to be associated with you, they have the right to cut all ties and not give you jack shit. This means they can screw you over not just for stuff you do after the contract is signed, but also stuff you did before that they find out about, and it'll hold up in court. (At least in the US, anyway.) They can even drop you not just for stuff you did, but stuff someone associated with you did, like your family or friends. Except of course Patreon isn't banning people for being pedophiles (or second cousins to pedophiles), it's banning creators for daring to draw genderbender stuff.
Genderbending! Truly, the height of depravity and immorality! *blech*
I see what you mean, I do know about the "morality clause" (not sure if it is always called like that), though for me it is a very USA thing, when someone is contracted as the "image" for products, like athletes and their sponsors. Not that in other countries may not be able to put something similar, but I think the strongest (and cheaper, for the companies) form is more easily applicable in USA.
The most famous example that comes to mind immediately, is Disney, with the people doing their TV serials for (young) teens and adolescents.
But I never could shake the strong belief that there is a direct connection between those kind of clauses and the related supposed strict control, and the fact there is a long line of ex-Disney singer and actresses that as soon as they got out of those clauses, got hyper-sexualised (in most cases being anyway still young) even to a level worth of some of the games on F95, if not even more
.Still remember some ex colleague bringing already some years ago their 12-13 (at the time) or so years old girls to a concert by Miley Cirus (sorry, maybe the name is written wrong, the one that made the video with the wall breaking ball) thinking it was going to be "safe" because she used to sing in Disney tv shows (and I think she had left the Disney stuff only from a couple of years then, must have been 20 or so), and then telling me how shocked they were by the twerking, "transparent" visuals and stuff like that
(though luckily for them, apparently their 12-13 did not like it, rather than picking up the model to replicate immediately).Or that other, I think the name is Bella Thorne, that as soon as she was free from those clauses, got on a small rampage (but no, no porn, at least that I know of) and even posted (I think on twitter) something like "I fucked all of them while I was under Disney's contract" - where the "all", was apparently a list going from director to carpenters on the set, all while, if I remember well, she had to be something like 16 at the time when she started fucking anything moving.
Basically, they put those clauses and a strict control, but is all façade, what goes on is really the opposite, and I cannot shake the belief those constraints instead of limiting/avoiding some behaviour, provoke it.
About genderbending, well, I admit I dislike "futa" (though a woman depicted as using some kind of strap, double dildo, or kind of sci-fi addiction like "impregnator" for Daz, it's ok, or depending on the situation, may even be enjoyable), but does not mean others cannot enjoy it in games.
Plus, I suspect my definition of genderbending is narrower than the one used by Patreon, e.g. for me homosexual, lesbians, people who do operations to change sex, are not "genderbending", while my guess is that Patreon would define them in that way - though I admit I dislike, for a number of reasons, someone who changed sex and wants to retroactively have any and all references to their previous existence with a different name and different sex be eliminated and/or changed, but the disliking is not about the change of sex.