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Preview Scene - Chapter 4 - Workout Session
And here we go, preview of the second scene of the coming update, finally, it follows Myriam if the player did not chose to go for the photoshoot with Flint. It was supposed to be a short scene so that people not going for the photoshoot had something to play, but it ended up taking more and more size as I worked on it.
The scene mix some simple general plot of Myriam exercising, mixed with some call back to the start of the game with something I had previously decided to cut, and with a little mix of foreshadowing things coming on another optional plotline. For short, I went full overload on a small scene. ^^
Multiple way to go through it, with Myriam either siding with a character or some others around a small event happening during the scene, potentially developing to two possible naughty subscenes with either side.
On the naughty side, as just said, two possible subscenes, one with a big buffy hunk or one with a "little" naughty moment with some young men in a funny setting.
So, now talking about schedule, this month didn't go as planed at all, the update taking a lot more time to work on that scheduled, with some IRL work to do around the house that didn't help, leading to this update only having this two scenes and pushing what I had originally planed to next month. I have still some work to do on the scene, a handful of renders and writing, but this should be handled in the coming days, leading to an early access around end of the month.
(So now I gotta go back to the chapter where I picked to go do the porn shoot with Flint and say no, so I can get the gym scene too. I’m glad Zorlun gives us these heads ups so I can catch up now on that path before the update is here)
- Jun 6, 2020
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You can use the new option in the cheat mod that bibifoc added, you can change the variables.
- Jan 7, 2018
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Like you I want to see what happens with the gym scene.
I was thinking on adding a choice to let you cancel your appointment for the photoshoot to let people that went for the photoshoot have a look at the gym scene if they want.
But not the other way around, it's easy to add a choice to cancel something, but a bit far fetch to force your way into a photoshoot scene the character doesn't even know could happen.
Well, the positive side of the cancelling, could be that even if she cancel this one, it does not automatically mean she cannot in future go do something with Flinn anyway - so, it would mean potentially players could have the choice of going to the gym, without completely eliminating the Flinn ( potential porn route ) from their future gameplay.
I guess that's better than making people have to go way back in the game to change something that happens so far in the future just so they can play one scene, is the gym scene a one off? I mean the 'muse' story is 3 separate scenes so far.
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Zorlun if you do add the cancel option for the appointment with Flinn are you going to have one or two ways to cancel it? (1: Fully Cancel future photo shoots or 2: Reschedule with Flinn keeping future photo shoots.) It wouldn't be hard for us to replay the game to get the gym scene but in the end its up to you on what you want to do.
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I know I did ask some time ago, about getting Myriam and Katherine relationship to the next stage (M&D I-love).
And I know its the patreonazi that's at fault for this not being a thing long time ago.
But, what if there was a way to include the mother doughtier or even Myriam and her female Cousin content in to the game without Zorlun getting involved or blamed that he was in any way.
My idea is simple and it comes in two options, option 1, make a second patch or mod (lets call it Oedipus patch/mod) that wont mess with the Prometheus patch, and will simply add extra scenes or fantasies that will involve the female family members.
The second option would be simply either to upgrade the Prometheus patch to where it includes this things already, or just make an add-on for the patch as an option for anyone interested in that content.
I will agree that dumping the M&D content right away will be rushed, so I propose to include it in stages per each chapter. For example, Chapter 1 & 2 make it where both Myriam and Katherine have innocent to mild fantasies about each other depending on the interactions.
In chapter 3 make it where the fantasies get more intense towards each other, and they start to get somewhat intimate to each other by simple touches either when they change their kisses from cheeks to lips kissing, or when they give each other massages that get more intimate (massages involving their booty or tatas).
In chapter 4, I think the bond between both can truly awaken where after the incident at the end of CH3, leads to Katherine realizing that she almost lost her loving mother to whom she started grooving even more stronger bond (a love interest bond).
Even Miriam realizes that as well.
So both begin to get even more involved in each other, and when we get to the part where Miriam gets the part of watching, Katherine's first time, we get an option where we can decide if Miriam is interested more in her doughtier alone or also is interested getting in to sexual acts with her Katherine and other people.
Also in chapter 4 or 5 Katherine might finaly discover Miriam's dirty interactions with other people or even Cassius and Hammer which she will want to do together with Miriam as long their bond is strong.
Sorry if its lots to read, but let me know what you all think about all of this.
.And I know its the patreonazi that's at fault for this not being a thing long time ago
.But, what if there was a way to include the mother doughtier or even Myriam and her female Cousin content in to the game without Zorlun getting involved or blamed that he was in any way.
My idea is simple and it comes in two options, option 1, make a second patch or mod (lets call it Oedipus patch/mod) that wont mess with the Prometheus patch, and will simply add extra scenes or fantasies that will involve the female family members.
The second option would be simply either to upgrade the Prometheus patch to where it includes this things already, or just make an add-on for the patch as an option for anyone interested in that content.
I will agree that dumping the M&D content right away will be rushed, so I propose to include it in stages per each chapter. For example, Chapter 1 & 2 make it where both Myriam and Katherine have innocent to mild fantasies about each other depending on the interactions.
In chapter 3 make it where the fantasies get more intense towards each other, and they start to get somewhat intimate to each other by simple touches either when they change their kisses from cheeks to lips kissing, or when they give each other massages that get more intimate (massages involving their booty or tatas).
In chapter 4, I think the bond between both can truly awaken where after the incident at the end of CH3, leads to Katherine realizing that she almost lost her loving mother to whom she started grooving even more stronger bond (a love interest bond).
Even Miriam realizes that as well.
So both begin to get even more involved in each other, and when we get to the part where Miriam gets the part of watching, Katherine's first time, we get an option where we can decide if Miriam is interested more in her doughtier alone or also is interested getting in to sexual acts with her Katherine and other people.
Also in chapter 4 or 5 Katherine might finaly discover Miriam's dirty interactions with other people or even Cassius and Hammer which she will want to do together with Miriam as long their bond is strong.
Sorry if its lots to read, but let me know what you all think about all of this.
The Prometheus patch just allows the furry love, it has nothing to do with any incest, the incest patch just changes what Marc calls Myriam from Mi to Mom, so in actuality the actions are still written in the game, but to do this with Katherine would mean Zorlun having to write another back story as to why and how Myriam would get custody of both Marc and Katherine from Anthony, not to mention writing 'sex' scenes into the game that aren't already there as they were with Marc.I know I did ask some time ago, about getting Myriam and Katherine relationship to the next stage (M&D I-love)
And I know its the patreonazi that's at fault for this not being a thing long time ago
But, what if there was a way to include the mother doughtier or even Myriam and her female Cousin content in to the game without Zorlun getting involved or blamed that he was in any way.
My idea is simple and it comes in two options, option 1, make a second patch or mod (lets call it Oedipus patch/mod) that wont mess with the Prometheus patch, and will simply add extra scenes or fantasies that will involve the female family members.
The second option would be simply either to upgrade the Prometheus patch to where it includes this things already, or just make an add-on for the patch as an option for anyone interested in that content.
I will agree that dumping the M&D content right away will be rushed, so I propose to include it in stages per each chapter. For example, Chapter 1 & 2 make it where both Myriam and Katherine have innocent to mild fantasies about each other depending on the interactions.
In chapter 3 make it where the fantasies get more intense towards each other, and they start to get somewhat intimate to each other by simple touches either when they change their kisses from cheeks to lips kissing, or when they give each other massages that get more intimate (massages involving their booty or tatas).
In chapter 4, I think the bond between both can truly awaken where after the incident at the end of CH3, leads to Katherine realizing that she almost lost her loving mother to whom she started grooving even more stronger bond (a love interest bond).
Even Miriam realizes that as well.
So both begin to get even more involved in each other, and when we get to the part where Miriam gets the part of watching, Katherine's first time, we get an option where we can decide if Miriam is interested more in her doughtier alone or also is interested getting in to sexual acts with her Katherine and other people.
Also in chapter 4 or 5 Katherine might finaly discover Miriam's dirty interactions with other people or even Cassius and Hammer which she will want to do together with Miriam as long their bond is strong.
Sorry if its lots to read, but let me know what you all think about all of this.
It would stopped the Flint plot line, though it would not stop the porn line as she could get to it another way.
Adding this choice is really just to offer convenience of access to the gym scene for those on the Flinn road, without having to roll back too far.
- Jul 31, 2018
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I would hate to miss the gym scene, but I definitely want Myriam to have the ability to get into porn at some time so I guess I will do the best I can. About the daughter. I understand Zorlun doesn't want any interaction in a sexual manner, but I do think it would be extremely hot. Also, it would give Myriam someone to share these experiences with. That is the one thing I feel is missing in some of these scenes. Such a good game. Thank you.
when the new update will be released? (not for patreons) thank you so much
- Sep 6, 2017
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That is why I suggested a separate patch (I still think of calling it Oedipus
) that will not mess with the Prometheus patch or the main game.Also if it would be to much trouble to include any of the things I mentioned in previous chapters, than why not make it a possibility in chapter 4 and beyond, since in that one opening a possible strong bonding between Myriam and Katherine would make even more sens
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- Nov 21, 2018
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Why would Zorlun create a second patch when the Prometheus patch already exists? The SubscribeStar version of the game is the Prometheus patch. Why would he create an additional patch which had to be added to the "pre-patched" version of the game?
If Zorlun wants to add any further incest to the game, he can just put it in the Prometheus patch. For example, if he decided to add the previously mentioned but not confirmed scenes with Myriam's father and/or brother, I would assume that he would just add them to the SubscribeStar version of the game, and leave them out of the Patreon release.
As for lesbian content between Myriam and Katherine, there's still a possibility that it might happen in a threesome, but you shouldn't hold your breath, because Zorlun has said that he currently doesn't plan on that happening. He's left the possibility open that he may change his mind, but don't count on it. He has also stated repeatedly and emphatically that there will be no corruption content for Katherine, unless it happened as part of a bad end.
There is nothing which says that the Prometheus patch is limited to bestiality. The Prometheus patch isn't really a patch. I mean, go to the OP and look through the patches and mods, and see if you find a "Prometheus patch." That's just what Zorlun calls the SubscribeStar version of the game, which doesn't have content removed, as opposed to the Patreon version of the game, which does have content removed.
So far, the only content which is available in the SubscribeStar version but not available in the Patreon version is bestiality, so that's currently all that the Prometheus patch adds. But there's no reason why Zorlun couldn't include other additional content in the future, if he wanted to do so.
Actually, Katherine and Myriam was never really a thing, at least not in the kind of heavier way of e.g. Myriam and Marc in some moments, even before Patreon's intervention.I know I did ask some time ago, about getting Myriam and Katherine relationship to the next stage (M&D I-love)
And I know its the patreonazi that's at fault for this not being a thing long time ago
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Sorry if its lots to read, but let me know what you all think about all of this.
Zorlun was very clear that it never was his intention - effectively, before Patreon's intervention, there had already been more than one thing with Marc, and since the introduction Marc was the one peeking on Myriam, but there was never anything, nor any suggestion about it, with Katherine.
About your suggestions, simply put, as already pointed out by others, will require someone to recreate the assets used by Zorlun, do the images, modify the code of the game to create entirely new paths, and basically create a new game, that however would use and exploit the work of Zorlun.
I did not only change "Mi" to "Mom" in the text, but my modifications for the incest patch still follow the original story.
E.g. I created a new choice in the menu with Dr Silver and modifierd the dialogue, so Myriam could confess having an incest fantasy to Dr Silver and get an answer that was not the one Zorlun had foreseen for everything else (Dr Silver could not say "go and ahead and explore" in that case, especially with Myriam DOM variant). But I did not create the event.
I have a gentlemen agreement with Zorlun, Myriam is his story, if I wanted to make a different story, I would make a different game (maybe not enough skills, certainly not enough time/other priorities, Myriam is the maximum I can do, and even that, sometime with delays or not enough checking, as people can see).
Which links to a question - do you have the skills and time to do it ?
Honestly, I think you do not (yet), because the impression is that you underestimate the type and energy that would be needed to recreate the assets by imitation, do the kind of patching you are talking about, etc. if you want to have a minimum of assurance it will work well (even more considering the various mods/patches available).
If you have the skills and time, or find someone who does and wants to do it for you, you can try, otherwise, your enthousiasm for the game is certainly appreciated even by Zorlun, but your suggestion is pointless.
There isn't any in the game as it is. Needs to have some in before "further" can be applied.
He could add other things, but hasn't. Furthermore, he's given no indication if he will or won't in future, so it's pretty pointless to go "he could add this/that".
Zorlun's doing things the way he feels best.
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There are countless, literally thousands of incest games on this site for you to play, there is no way you could have played them all by now, but for what your looking for sounds like mommy daughter incest, the 2 games that come to mind for that are “Dog days of summer” and “Her Desire”. Trust me there are more just do a search on the updates page and put incest, lesbian, milf in the filter and then get crankinI know I did ask some time ago, about getting Myriam and Katherine relationship to the next stage (M&D I-love)
And I know its the patreonazi that's at fault for this not being a thing long time ago
But, what if there was a way to include the mother doughtier or even Myriam and her female Cousin content in to the game without Zorlun getting involved or blamed that he was in any way.
My idea is simple and it comes in two options, option 1, make a second patch or mod (lets call it Oedipus patch/mod) that wont mess with the Prometheus patch, and will simply add extra scenes or fantasies that will involve the female family members.
The second option would be simply either to upgrade the Prometheus patch to where it includes this things already, or just make an add-on for the patch as an option for anyone interested in that content.
I will agree that dumping the M&D content right away will be rushed, so I propose to include it in stages per each chapter. For example, Chapter 1 & 2 make it where both Myriam and Katherine have innocent to mild fantasies about each other depending on the interactions.
In chapter 3 make it where the fantasies get more intense towards each other, and they start to get somewhat intimate to each other by simple touches either when they change their kisses from cheeks to lips kissing, or when they give each other massages that get more intimate (massages involving their booty or tatas).
In chapter 4, I think the bond between both can truly awaken where after the incident at the end of CH3, leads to Katherine realizing that she almost lost her loving mother to whom she started grooving even more stronger bond (a love interest bond).
Even Miriam realizes that as well.
So both begin to get even more involved in each other, and when we get to the part where Miriam gets the part of watching, Katherine's first time, we get an option where we can decide if Miriam is interested more in her doughtier alone or also is interested getting in to sexual acts with her Katherine and other people.
Also in chapter 4 or 5 Katherine might finaly discover Miriam's dirty interactions with other people or even Cassius and Hammer which she will want to do together with Miriam as long their bond is strong.
Sorry if its lots to read, but let me know what you all think about all of this.
- Nov 21, 2018
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There is incest in the game, in the patched version (Not the Prometheus patch, which isn't actually a patch, but the ipatch.), so further incest could be added by Zorlun in the Prometheus version. And it's possible that he may do that, since he's said that he's not yet decided about whether or not he'll include scenes between Myriam and her father. Also, as has been explained before, Zorlun's original treatment of the story had Marc as Myriam's biological son, so incest was part of the creator's original intent. The fact that he didn't put it back in, himself, when he started releasing the Prometheus version may just be down to how much work would have been involved. But that's speculation on my part.
Your conclusion - that it's pointless to speculate - does not logically follow from either of your premises.
Premise 1 - "He could add other things, but hasn't." Since the speculation is about what he could or might do in the future, the fact that he hasn't already done it is not an argument against it. It doesn't in any way address either the possibility or the probability. If you had pointed to some statement from Zorlun, saying that he wasn't planning to include any "SubscribeStar only" content beyond bestiality, that would be a valid argument. The observation that he hasn't yet exercised that option is not a valid argument, because it's not predictive of the future.
Premise 2 - "He's given no indication if he will or won't in future." So, by your own statement, he has not indicated that he won't do it in future, meaning that there's no reason to put this forward as an argument against it. And also no reason to put it forward as an argument in favor, since he also has not indicated that he will do it in future. Basically, this statement of yours would make a better argument in favor or speculation, since you just pointed out that Zorlun hasn't said, one way or the other, meaning that it's an open question. And open questions are the very thing about which one speculates. If it's not an open question, then you wouldn't speculate. But you say that it is an open question.
When arguing, one is supposed to provide premises which logically connect with one's conclusion. If your premises don't connect with your conclusion, then your conclusion is invalid.
Okay. But who said that he wasn't doing things the way he feels is best?
There's only incest in the modded version... It's a third-party modification.
Now, you and I both know that it was intended that Mark and Myriam were mother & son then Patreon reared its ugly head and made its demands of Zorlun, so there is no incest in the game. Not even in the Prometheus version.
That's why Ouch2020 waits until the Prometheus version has been released before updating his mod.