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Theres LOTS of sex with the son, the difference about the incest patch is that it turn marc into miriams son, and if theres no patch then he is his stepson, thats it
So not a TON of difference on the surface but you'll probably notice the difference in gameplay and whatnot, good to know. I personally dont have the pacth on but that's because i do some other pathing in particular lol
 
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Not sure that is going to happen, was easy to get around the Patreon incest ban with Marc, don't think it will be as easy to get around actual relatives.
It's extremely easy to get around it. Just include it in the Prometheus patch. Whether or not that will happen is, of course, another question.
 
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So, how much incest is in this? I dont NOT play games with no incest, but some of the comments make it sound like there was not a lot, and/or that it was easily removed by the dev, which makes it sound kinda.... meaningless? That kind of incest that has so little affect on the story that it can be removed without any effort.
If Marc, his (step)son, was a lovable character, then the relationship between the two would be great content. But Marc is a crawling worm, so I've always pushed him away, and whenever possible I kick his ass so that he knows where such little crap belongs... And it doesn't bother me that this makes the game content less...
 

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Yeah, you had all of the info I needed to figure it out in the post, but I still missed it. Hence my suggestion to make it stand out more for those of us who apparently have trouble reading.

My brain saw the part in green and said this is over a year old. Completely missed the 2 parts in red which would have told me it was recent.
Well, I was not thinking about that honestly.
If you go on the first page, the "OP", from which you download the game here on F95, you will see there is the link for the incest patch, which effectively sends you to that post.
I made it available, and I even provide the mega link, but then, it is up to the moderators.
I guess doing it this way also simplifies their work, instead of having to get the patch from me, upload it, and update the link every time, they just put the link to the post once, and then, everytime I upload it to Mega and I update the post, it is done.
 

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People who play a lot of incest games will understand, even though I can not really explain it well. Content between 2 characters that are related is usually a LOT different than content between unrelated. Just taking a random LI and making them related with a patch usually does not work that well. There is also the whole "We cant do this, we are related" dialog that wouldnt exist in the latter.
 

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People who play a lot of incest games will understand, even though I can not really explain it well. Content between 2 characters that are related is usually a LOT different than content between unrelated. Just taking a random LI and making them related with a patch usually does not work that well. There is also the whole "We cant do this, we are related" dialog that wouldnt exist in the latter.
I've said this before, all the patch really did was change what Marc called Myriam from Mom to Mi. I've been playing since before the Patreon crackdown on incest and in my head Marc is still Myriam's (step)son and Myriam is still his (step)mother.
 
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I've said this before, all the patch really did was change what Marc called Myriam from Mom to Mi. I've been playing since before the Patreon crackdown on incest and in my head Marc is still Myriam's (step)son and Myriam is still his (step)mother.
Mostly, but not only. I did have to change some variables updating, add some dialogue and options in one menu, change some dialogues, and change the bios. It is the reason it is not compatible with the WT, and even the attempt at mixing the two, is only partial.
If it had been really only a matter of just changing Mi to Mom, it would not have needed to be done manually, it would have been enough to do a search and replace, and the WT mod and it would mostly probably have been compatible with out of the box.
Maybe you should check the code before you make some statement ;-)
 

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Marc will probly want to be in a porn with her and if he’s introduced to Krystal too and can have a 3 some scene :love:
Are you sure he'll be ok having to share her with a load of other guys? Particularly if they're hot, muscular dudes with a lot of experience. Marc might be ok having her fuck his friends, where he can hand out favours and feel he's in control. But if she does porn, that illusion of control that he believes he has over Myriam, will just evaporate. At the end of the day, isn't he just an insecure teenager whom Myriam indulges? It's not like he's some kind of woman magnet is it?
 
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Are you sure he'll be ok having to share her with a load of other guys? Particularly if they're hot, muscular dudes with a lot of experience. Marc might be ok having her fuck his friends, where he can hand out favours and feel he's in control. But if she does porn, that illusion of control that he believes he has over Myriam, will just evaporate. At the end of the day, isn't he just an insecure teenager whom Myriam indulges? It's not like he's some kind of woman magnet is it?
He didn't seem to have a problem jerking off to home movies of his dad fucking Myriam.
 
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Yep, but probably will want to have a cut on the payments, or be the one that makes sells the video on the Internet :-D
Crystal is supposed to be one of the top pornstars in the country, so I don't see her making homemade videos. She probably works with professional guys like Flint. If Myriam does porn, it's likely to be with him or if she's dating Crystal, another producer that she knows.

I can't imagine that Myriam would appear in a porn video with Marc, because that would risk making their sexual relationship public. She's never going to do that.
 

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He didn't seem to have a problem jerking off to home movies of his dad fucking Myriam.
Well Anthony's not exactly Mr Universe is he? Plus, Marc was effectively cucking his father. So he might feel ok with that. Whereas, he might view any pornstars fucking Myriam, as being cucked himself.
 

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I would imagine that, if Myriam did porn and Marc found out, he would make her do porn with him at home. And then he could market it online, or share it around to his friends.
I can't see that ever happening. Myriam might indulge Marc by allowing him to have sex with her. But there's no way she'll allow him to make porn with her, that would risk making their relationship public. Marc isn't really dominant over Myriam. Ultimately, she's the one in control. She'll allow him to go so far, but no further.
 

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So far, she has incest with her son.

She has a sexual encounter which includes her cousin, but I don't know if they actually had contact with each other because, while I would have liked for her and the cousin to have sex, the scene was gated behind these two insufferable spa attendants, so I skipped it.

I think that there's a possibility that she may have sex with her father and/or brother at some point later in the game, but that's only a possibility, at present.
Wasn't Evelyn originally Myriam's little sister?
 

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Well Anthony's not exactly Mr Universe is he? Plus, Marc was effectively cucking his father. So he might feel ok with that. Whereas, he might view any pornstars fucking Myriam, as being cucked himself.
Mark acts like he’s a pimp when he’s controlling Myriam anyway, so if he’s going to get paid to do porn with her and Krystal don’t think he would care. They can always wear a mask or a wig or have face blurred out too
 

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I can't see that ever happening. Myriam might indulge Marc by allowing him to have sex with her. But there's no way she'll allow him to make porn with her, that would risk making their relationship public. Marc isn't really dominant over Myriam. Ultimately, she's the one in control. She'll allow him to go so far, but no further.
Mark already has pics on his phone of Myriam passed out when he fucked her and gave her a facial that was awhile ago after the gangbang at the gala
 

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Marc isn't really dominant over Myriam. Ultimately, she's the one in control.
Perhaps you're thinking of how things are in your playthrough. But that's not necessarily how things are in other playthroughs. It should be remembered that, as Zorlun has said, there isn't one true version of the game, but rather, all of the content which he has included as possible is equally valid.

Perhaps in your game, Myriam is the one who's ultimately in control. In my playthrough, Myriam is in control of very little, with anyone. And Marc has already made her do things which she didn't want to do, on more than one occasion.

She'll allow him to go so far, but no further.
The only hard limit which is written into the game so far is that Myriam won't allow Marc to involve Katherine. When he suggested it, she put a stop to it and shut him down for a while. But since her return from the hospital, with Marc's assurance that he won't ever try to involve Katherine again, he's been gradually retaking control.
 

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Crystal is supposed to be one of the top pornstars in the country, so I don't see her making homemade videos. She probably works with professional guys like Flint. If Myriam does porn, it's likely to be with him or if she's dating Crystal, another producer that she knows.

I can't imagine that Myriam would appear in a porn video with Marc, because that would risk making their sexual relationship public. She's never going to do that.
For the second part, you are forgetting the modern possibilities of hiding the face and even altering the voice. With modern instruments (a computer not too basic, for the speed, and software, for which there is even free versions), it can be some postprocessing, but it is not necessary to be a mega pro expert to do it, remembering also that the customers of such video are not interested in a show off of Hollywood blockbuster special effects, they are more interested in the "fapping effect" :p :-D .
Crystal seems rather the type that would not be bothered by the situation Myriam+Marc - aside that for what she knows, any eventual reference to the fact of Myriam being the mother during the video (that anyway would appear only in the incest patch, not in the normal game), could be role playing.
And if they become such good friends with Myriam and Crystal understands something, it could on in the line of the "complicity between friends".

For the first part, is where I would more agree, but that said, they way they spoke (or Zorlun made them speak), Crystal does not do it only for the money, she does it because she likes sex and the exposure.
It would not be the first case of a professional porno actress that does also videos that are not a film and are more improvised.
Even because "nowadays" (already from many years, I would say) the majority of porn is not movies with at least some serious pretention of a story, and the majority of the porn content is spread (and sold) through Internet, and most sites will have short videos, not long movies.

Plus, if you prefer, you could put it as another scenario, Myriam making a gift to Marc, or accepting a request from Marc, of hiring Crystal for the threesome.
Some porno actresses will get offence at being considered or called prostitutes, but others had prostitution (or "escort with sex", in theory "escort" could be even without sex and would be required to have also a certain style, but that is not said) as a step before doing porn, or even doing "escort with sex" in parallel with the porn actitivity.
And if Crystal and Myriam have such a good friendship, Crystal could do it for Myriam as a favour.


Not saying it will happen, I had myself never considered the possibility, and maybe even Zorlun had never thought about it. But as you see, there is more than one reason and way in which it could happen without making it break completely the logic of the story.
So, it's up to Zorlun.
 
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Mark acts like he’s a pimp when he’s controlling Myriam anyway, so if he’s going to get paid to do porn with her and Krystal don’t think he would care. They can always wear a mask or a wig or have face blurred out too
They could, but I don't see Myriam agreeing to it. She indulges Marc in private, because she thinks he needs to feel like he's in control, instead of the reality where he's become 'piggy in the middle' between her and Anthony. Marc's control over Myriam is an illusion. Whenever she thinks he's gone too far, and puts her foot down, he always caves in and start's acting like her 'duckling' again.

Alright if she's sub, she might enjoy getting dominated by Marc. But for her it's just a game, and one that has to stay firmly behind closed doors. She'll never take the risk of involving Marc in anything as public as Porn. She might be tempted to risk her own reputation, but never his.
 

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For the second part, you are forgetting the modern possibilities of hiding the face and even altering the voice. With modern instruments (a computer not too basic, for the speed, and software, for which there is even free versions), it can be some postprocessing, but it is not necessary to be a mega pro expert to do it, remembering also that the customers of such video are not interested in a show off of Hollywood blockbuster special effects, they are more interested in the "fapping effect" :p :-D .
Crystal seems rather the type that would not be bothered by the situation Myriam+Marc - aside that for what she knows, any eventual reference to the fact of Myriam being the mother during the video (that anyway would appear only in the incest patch, not in the normal game), could be role playing.
And if they become such good friends with Myriam and Crystal understands something, it could on in the line of the "complicity between friends".

For the first part, is where I would more agree, but that said, they way they spoke (or Zorlun made them speak), Crystal does not do it only for the money, she does it because she likes sex and the exposure.
It would not be the first case of a professional porno actress that does also videos that are not a film and are more improvised.
Even because "nowadays" (already from many years, I would say) the majority of porn is not movies with at least some serious pretention of a story, and the majority of the porn content is spread (and sold) through Internet, and most sites will have short videos, not long movies.

Plus, if you prefer, you could put it as another scenario, Myriam making a gift to Marc, or accepting a request from Marc, of hiring Crystal for the threesome.
Some porno actresses will get offence at being considered or called prostitutes, but others had prostitution (or "escort with sex", in theory "escort" could be even without sex and would be required to have also a certain style, but that is not said) as a step before doing porn, or even doing "escort with sex" in parallel with the porn actitivity.
And if Crystal and Myriam have such a good friendship, Crystal could do it for Myriam as a favour.


Not saying it will happen, I had myself never considered the possibility, and maybe even Zorlun had never thought about it. But as you see, there is more than one reason and way in which it could happen without making it break completely the logic of the story.
So, it's up to Zorlun.
It's not a question of whether they could get away with it. They possibly could. It's whether Myriam would ever agree to it? Even if you can hide identities, it would never be totally foolproof, and I just don't see Myriam taking the risk of it being discovered. Zorlun has constructed Myriam's personality in a particular way, where she will go to ANY lengths to protect her kids. And her relationship with Marc, where she indulges his fantasies, because she believes he's been damaged by Anthony and her break-up with him, is a part of that. But there will always be a limit to how far she will go.

That's not to say Marc won't have a threesome with say Crystal, or that he could become involved in filming Crystal and Myriam with each other, or other guys. I just don't think he'll actually be in the videos himself.

But I'm also not convinced that he'd be totally ok with Myriam having sex with a load of other guys in porn videos. Most guys would feel threatened by such a situation. And Marc is not the most secure of guys. It's one thing for him to know she's sleeping with other guys besides him and another thing entirely to see it. When she slept with his friend, that was only because he wanted it to happen, he was in control of what was happening. But if she starts doing porn, he won't have any control over that at all. That could make him very jealous and feel very insecure.

This is all hypothetical of course, because none of this may ever happen.
 
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