Gohan007

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Project SAGE is a critically acclaimed 30+ hour game that is available for free with almost 2 million views on f95zone alone. The real injustice is that the creator wasn't paid a cent from all of us freeloaders that were provided hours of enjoyment.
You are aware the patreon was (iirc) nearing 2K/month, with many people here supporting him, before he abandoned the project, right?
 

hans2014frans

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Hi guys, what's this pointless discussion about? Everyone who chooses the Patreon path knows what he is getting into. The fact is, the game is (probably) dead, so it would be nice if the author would at least release pictures at the end. My opinion. Have a nice day everyone.
 
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hello Paperwork, weird alt account you got there.
Imagine thinking that not being entitled automatically means you have ulterior motives.


You are aware the patreon was (iirc) nearing 2K/month, with many people here supporting him, before he abandoned the project, right?
Are we talking rubles? It was never 2k/month USD at any point I followed the account (since Summer 2020), but that is beside the point. I don't know what to tell you if you think getting 2k/month is such good pay that the author ought to be permanently indebted to their patrons (most of which are paying a couple of dollars each). You do realize that the vast majority of these authors have other jobs because the Patreon pay is shit, right? And the reason it pays like shit is because of people like us - that don't give anything. Had there been less people like us, ProjectSAGE could have been a full time venture and we'd still be getting content.

It should be noted that, I do not respect how PW has ghosted his patrons while being active (but silent) on F95zone. But I also do not respect people complaining about not getting content when they aren't willing to pay for it themselves. It is not righteous to complain on behalf of patrons when your motives are unabashedly self-serving.
 

dolfe67

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And the reason it pays like shit is because of people like us - that don't give anything.
That's the false theory greedy corporations use against piracy but i don't think it works like this. Do you really think if piracy didn't exist, those who don't pay now would buy the product instead ? Some of them sure, but the majority would just not play.

Furthermore a lot of those games are free, being patron just giving some perks (wallpaper, special renders, etc.) and early access
 

nightmoods

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That's the false theory greedy corporations use against piracy but i don't think it works like this. Do you really think if piracy didn't exist, those who don't pay now would buy the product instead ? Some of them sure, but the majority would just not play.

Furthermore a lot of those games are free, being patron just giving some perks (wallpaper, special renders, etc.) and early access
Well i`m proud to say i was `donating` .... ermm ok maybe thats not the right word , until i heard sage was over $5 a month and to be fair i still donate (lol) to others (GDS) because i think even though i have no money i might have more than them .... keep happy guys...
 
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That's the false theory greedy corporations use against piracy but i don't think it works like this. Do you really think if piracy didn't exist, those who don't pay now would buy the product instead ? Some of them sure, but the majority would just not play.

Furthermore a lot of those games are free, being patron just giving some perks (wallpaper, special renders, etc.) and early access
Of course, a lot of people that pirate wouldn't pay anyways, but it is irrefutable that if the pirates chose to pay instead of pirate, the creators would make more money.

Certainly, you do not believe that the reason Patreon exists is to give additional perks to products that were intended to otherwise be free (in the vast majority of instances at least). It is frequently indicated by those in the creative community that piracy hurts, but there isn't anything they can really do about it. However, my point isn't a matter of piracy, but of economics - if creators do not make money, they will have to get money elsewhere, and thus, they will be less able to create content. If you wanted to maximize creative output, a straight forward approach is to ensure that creators are adequately supported, which is a totally uncontroversial take.
 

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That's the false theory greedy corporations use against piracy but i don't think it works like this. Do you really think if piracy didn't exist, those who don't pay now would buy the product instead ? Some of them sure, but the majority would just not play.

Furthermore a lot of those games are free, being patron just giving some perks (wallpaper, special renders, etc.) and early access
Paper work for the longest time taking his supporter money without doing anything and prolong that with a false promise of a single post that stated he would come back, and he got full support without doing anything.

So he stop not due to the reason that peoples stop supporting him, he actually stop during the peak of the support, and this is not alien only to PW, many of the porn game developer do enjoy huge sum of money from their abandoned project, I don't need to give example do I?

However some peoples here try to be nice and heroic because they are hoping that paper work will one day read their nice post and has a second thought because he recover his faith that nice posters do exist.

Perhaps for some, if there is a way to convince peoples to support his already inactive patreon now, and shower PW with lots of money in exchange of 20% chance he would feel touch and come back to throw some rendered graphic of MC getting screwed, perhaps some peoples would encourage peoples to put their money anyway for a chance of his return so that they don't entirely lose the hope to be able to loosen their pants over this game.
 
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Paper work for the longest time taking his supporter money without doing anything and prolong that with a false promise of a single post that stated he would come back, and he got full support without doing anything.

So he stop not due to the reason that peoples stop supporting him, he actually stop during the peak of the support, and this is not alien only to PW, many of the porn game developer do enjoy huge sum of money from their abandoned project, I don't need to give example do I?

However some peoples here try to be nice and heroic because they are hoping that paper work will one day read their nice post and has a second thought because he recover his faith that nice posters do exist.

Perhaps for some, if there is a way to convince peoples to support his already inactive patreon now, and shower PW with lots of money in exchange of 20% chance he would feel touch and come back to throw some rendered graphic of MC getting screwed, perhaps some peoples would encourage peoples to put their money anyway for a chance of his return so that they don't entirely lose the hope to be able to loosen their pants over this game.
salty comments here. People been salty for others that contribute to developers because they don't want to contribute at all.

Did I contribute to paperwork? Yes, but not anymore after 3 month inactive
Do I hope him to come back? Yes. why not
Do I want other people also contribute? None of my business.

I just feel disgusting when people just ill thinking other peoples' intention. especially when there is no sign that this particle person has contributed or is willing to contribute a community.
 

CO-OP COOPS

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theres a new game out on here called primal desires it started out just like this one i encourage all of you go get it project sage died let it go and play a game thats like it with fresh paint im going to stop watching this thread if paper work does come back thats good ill play again but now im just going to move on i hope you all show primal desires love and its dev naykid respect and check it out until then bye
 

fjabbegreven

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At decent enough start, more like a condensed project sage, pacing will be curious, as I quite enjoyed paperworks slow meander, but it could just be to speed up and reach uncharted, yet familiar ground faster.
 

Zuhl

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theres a new game out on here called primal desires it started out just like this one i encourage all of you go get it project sage died let it go and play a game thats like it with fresh paint im going to stop watching this thread if paper work does come back thats good ill play again but now im just going to move on i hope you all show primal desires love and its dev naykid respect and check it out until then bye
Good joke. At first you don't really believe that we won't play any other game here and just wait for it to continue here. the next time the cheap advertising verrsuch best can do it right away. and only because of that I will put the suggested on my ingor list. we were and hope that it goes on here and we also look at others, so you don't have to worry. wish you a lot of fun.
 
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