Sony676

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I just wish you could mute moans and keep the other sounds. I hate moans but ive played games where it had the other sex sounds and I do love it when those are included.
Good devs should definetly be able to give you the option to turn on/off whatever you want. Depends on how "lazy" a dev is I guess. :D I definetly know AVNs where you can decide what you want to hear in detail.
 

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There are a few examples where this works perfectly fine (don't wanna name them cause it could be framed as "off topic") and I have a lot of trust in this team. IF you do not like it you're always able to mute it. But I think some devs should be braver and include moans/sex sounds and stuff to make scenes even more intense cause GOOD sounds can do a LOT to sex scenes.
couldnt agree more and i realize you're like me an Amelie fan haha, best milf ever by the way
 
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I'm sorry, what is TBDOOL again? :O
I know Vanessa is a cameo i just cant remember where.
the best day of our lives, this devs previous game that he left and gave to another to start working on this game, but the other dev also left the best day of our lives, so yeah
 

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The MC definitely loves his daughter. He'd do anything for her. Why can't he set her photo as wallpaper on his phone? In my opinion, this should be the default wallpaper.
 

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The MC definitely loves his daughter. He'd do anything for her. Why can't he set her photo as wallpaper on his phone? In my opinion, this should be the default wallpaper.
The idea of having a photo of your daughter next to a sea of lewd/nude photos of beautiful ladies (including your ex-wife) feels a little weird lol.
 

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The idea of having a photo of your daughter next to a sea of lewd/nude photos of beautiful ladies (including your ex-wife) feels a little weird lol.
tbh I think having a lewd / nude as your wallpaper feels a bit weird too cause id be worried someone would see unless you don't care. I mean in an AVN it is one.
 
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tbh I think having a lewd / nude as your wallpaper feels a bit weird too cause id be worried someone would see unless you don't care. I mean in an AVN it is one.
Oh yeah, that was just a joke on my part. Jokes aside, both of your guys points would be valid in any normal situation.
 

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I think it's logical for a loving parent to have a photo of their child as their wallpaper. However, in this case, everything is there except for the daughter (even the car is there, but the most important thing is missing).
And by the way, having photos of your students as wallpaper is clearly not the best idea.
 

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Man, I'm trying to do some Veronica routes to get all the lewds, but she is not making it easy. Girl's got some serious attachment issues and hisses every time another woman comes within 50 feet like she's a vampire in an Italian restaurant. I get that she's insecure but damn is it insufferable to have to sit back and watch her flip out every time Jake talks to a woman. I can only hope the sex is worth it...
 

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Man, I'm trying to do some Veronica routes to get all the lewds, but she is not making it easy. Girl's got some serious attachment issues and hisses every time another woman comes within 50 feet like she's a vampire in an Italian restaurant. I get that she's insecure but damn is it insufferable to have to sit back and watch her flip out every time Jake talks to a woman. I can only hope the sex is worth it...
That's pretty accurate, it definitely completely bricked my interest in that character for sure. Insecurity isn't sexy and is just a massive red flag.

Allison is honestly one of my favourite LI's/stories in basically any VN I've played and I'd be more than fine if the game was just about trying to mend a relationship broken to such an extreme degree.
It's a pretty realistic depiction of traversing a road where trust was broken entirely, and the MC having been a complete cunt.
 

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Man, I'm trying to do some Veronica routes to get all the lewds, but she is not making it easy. Girl's got some serious attachment issues and hisses every time another woman comes within 50 feet like she's a vampire in an Italian restaurant. I get that she's insecure but damn is it insufferable to have to sit back and watch her flip out every time Jake talks to a woman. I can only hope the sex is worth it...
Yeah, but it's funny when you bring her and Jasmine to the conference (maybe even Natalya). The conference can be played in many many different ways it was so well done.
 

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That's pretty accurate, it definitely completely bricked my interest in that character for sure. Insecurity isn't sexy and is just a massive red flag.
I mean hell, some insecurity is fine. I get that she, like Jake, is still dealing with trauma from past relationships and trying to avoid the same mistakes. I think she's going about that in a completely terrible way, by getting over-attached to a man who had been very up front about the relationship being a casual fling to get over his ex, but I get it.

What frustrates me is that, at least as far as I've seen(just getting to her conference scene now) she doesn't have any real development along that path. There's no growth from her. There's a bit of growth from Jake, when it's convenient, showing that he can open up and bond more meaningfully with V. But it still feels like everything in the relationship needs to happen on her terms, that she can't give him more than a few inches of space to work on his project or save his daughter before acting like an abandoned puppy or a territorial mama bear. Even when she does things that are ostensibly to help Jake, like attending events to help the battery project or distracting him from his troubles, her clinginess always marrs it in some way.

I haven't done dedicated paths for everyone yet, but the two characters I went deepest with in my main run, Jasmine and Maggie, have definitely had growth and been explored as characters with legitimate depth. Allie too, and while I haven't done a ton with Nat there's plenty of obvious hints at something deeper beneath the surface. Like, fuck, Alexa and Kris have had more character development than Veronica has!

I hope that, in future updates, Jake will set some boundaries with V. Not just about other women close to him, but in general. It's not healthy for either of them if she fixates on him this way and he doesn't reciprocate. He is, at this moment, not capable of giving her what she wants, and she's too desperate to make things work that she can't or won't see it. Either she needs to back up a bit and be willing to give him the space he needs to sort his shit out, while dealing with a couple of her own issues, or they need to go their separate ways. Obviously I know my pick for my main run, but given she's a central love interest the former is going to need to be dealt with too.
 

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Yeah, but it's funny when you bring her and Jasmine to the conference (maybe even Natalya). The conference can be played in many many different ways it was so well done.
True. Watching Jasmine tease her has been easily the best part of the Veronica run. Though that yoga scene is a close second...
 

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I mean hell, some insecurity is fine. I get that she, like Jake, is still dealing with trauma from past relationships and trying to avoid the same mistakes. I think she's going about that in a completely terrible way, by getting over-attached to a man who had been very up front about the relationship being a casual fling to get over his ex, but I get it.

What frustrates me is that, at least as far as I've seen(just getting to her conference scene now) she doesn't have any real development along that path. There's no growth from her. There's a bit of growth from Jake, when it's convenient, showing that he can open up and bond more meaningfully with V. But it still feels like everything in the relationship needs to happen on her terms, that she can't give him more than a few inches of space to work on his project or save his daughter before acting like an abandoned puppy or a territorial mama bear. Even when she does things that are ostensibly to help Jake, like attending events to help the battery project or distracting him from his troubles, her clinginess always marrs it in some way.

I haven't done dedicated paths for everyone yet, but the two characters I went deepest with in my main run, Jasmine and Maggie, have definitely had growth and been explored as characters with legitimate depth. Allie too, and while I haven't done a ton with Nat there's plenty of obvious hints at something deeper beneath the surface. Like, fuck, Alexa and Kris have had more character development than Veronica has!

I hope that, in future updates, Jake will set some boundaries with V. Not just about other women close to him, but in general. It's not healthy for either of them if she fixates on him this way and he doesn't reciprocate. He is, at this moment, not capable of giving her what she wants, and she's too desperate to make things work that she can't or won't see it. Either she needs to back up a bit and be willing to give him the space he needs to sort his shit out, while dealing with a couple of her own issues, or they need to go their separate ways. Obviously I know my pick for my main run, but given she's a central love interest the former is going to need to be dealt with too.
I mean yeah, everyone understands why she's acting the way she's acting, but it doesn't make it right. Even if you have the best intentions or valid excuses, there are still consequences to the actions you are taking and having insecurity and jealousy rule you to the point of wanting to micromanage your significant others' social interactions is a VERY quick way to ending a relationship.

And I fully agree with the rest of your post, Veronica at this stage of the game feels exactly like she did at the beginning stage of the game, nothing has changed and her behaviour has a way of souring every scene she is in that involves other women.
 

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I mean yeah, everyone understands why she's acting the way she's acting, but it doesn't make it right. Even if you have the best intentions or valid excuses, there are still consequences to the actions you are taking and having insecurity and jealousy rule you to the point of wanting to micromanage your significant others' social interactions is a VERY quick way to ending a relationship.

And I fully agree with the rest of your post, Veronica at this stage of the game feels exactly like she did at the beginning stage of the game, nothing has changed and her behaviour has a way of souring every scene she is in that involves other women.

Did you reach her final scene ? There's a clearly path for change...
 

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Did you reach her final scene ? There's a clearly path for change...
Respectfully, if it's taken 2 years of development to reach a point where she might understand that her behaviour is destructive, I'm expecting the same amount of development time to reach a point where she's almost tolerable and it isn't exactly making me like the character more.

The fact that it's been this long, means that she either doesn't realize or doesn't believe that her behaviour is an issue and that she has had no interest in getting better in that regard. Even if she comes to that realization now, it's just too little too late.
I think this is the one character in any VN I've played where I'm just not going to do a run with her as a focus.
 
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From what I remember the writer of the first game ghosted from the project and nobody knows what happened to him so they were unable to finish it, RoL has a new writer
It was nothing like you remember. Jacchu and the writer had creative differences about the story direction and then decided split away, it was explained in that time.
 

Michkooo

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...Was there? We're talking about the scene from the conference, right?
Yes, Veronica turned into something else that can both explain why she is the way she is and at the same time can open new paths for the future. I'm really intrigued.

I was like you before and I tossed her aside quickly to focus on Jasmine and Allison, but Veronica route has me very intrigued now.

She's more interesting to me than Maggie, which is the "perfect next door girl" trope and it's fine, but Veronica is a bit more unique and I'm curious to see what her future holds.

All Race of Life women are incredible and deserve a save dedicated to them.
 
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Yes, Veronica turned into something else that can both explain why she is the way she is and at the same time can open new paths for the future. I'm really intrigued.

I was like you before and I tossed her aside quickly to focus on Jasmine and Allison, but Veronica route has me very intrigued now.

She's more interesting to me than Maggie, which is the "perfect next door girl" trope and it's fine, but Veronica is a bit more unique and I'm curious to see what her future holds.

All Race of Life women are incredible and deserve a save dedicated to them.
I guess I must've missed it, then. Enlighten me?
 
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