Krysis_here

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By player choices, if you set the MC onto a path to be a creep, i find it normal and perfectly logical he acts like one and in my opinion there is no problem with that as it's the reader decisions.
It's similar to how you forge the MC in Friends in Need, you can have him being a creep , an absolute piece of shit or a really good and kind man depending on your choices.

Now in Race of Life when the player set the MC into a good guy path, especially the "i want to be a better man" as the MC said when you're on Allison route that i followed on my playthrough, it feels really character-breaking (or make you feel the MC is only faking his will to redeem himself) when the MC continue to act like a creep around (without the reader inputs i mean, as if you had the choice to have the MC act like that it wouldn't be a problem as it would be your decision) .
Though the MC behaving like a creep without player choice seems mostly centered around the MC various scenes that involve Maggie (when not on her route)

On what i feel is a lesser AVN i wouldn't care that much, but i found the level of quality of the writing and dialogue of Race of Life so good (the Veronica route is so well made i am now all Team Veronica) and the story having such good potential after only 2 chapters that it make me probably more critical than i should.
Now I got your point your main Motive is to tell that Veronica is best for MC and other paths are creep for you so far. Okay, That tells a lot that you love Milf kind of Personality, but that does not make the other paths and mc creep at all. Definitely, you have selected the cheats option and enabled the stats of all Including Allison and Maggie in the top that is Why MC reacted that way but if you are not interested in that then Why you engaged in the scenes as they are pretty much avoidable, In my Walkthrough I get Jasmine and horny scenes Where in Party She was drunken and Horny and inside car She rubbed her ass with MC's cock but No sex scene so far, I guess you like Veronica so much that you can't take other characters very well. Well, Let me tell you that Real Creep was Veronica so far in the Game, not MC. His writing is so far is great, And he is kind of weird goofy but still not creepy at all. Veronica is so far the most clingy, self-centered, and jealous one. She is so irritating for MC during his worst days. In some cases like Allison in the park scene may look like she is bad but actually, after that scene, she definitely has good intentions, Maggie is very homely with MC and yeah some scenes she reacts like too shy but according to her mental condition of her mother and past She is like that you can't help that and Jasmine is very fun loving, Fiery types to cheer up mc. Sorry but no Sorry :whistle::rolleyes:
 

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Let me ask you just one thing - do you know any complex game (multiple characters/LIs with multiple paths) that is "perfect" (aka to your particular liking)?
I do know a few, though those arent that complex, or are tad shorter/less ambitious (regarding its content). Ironically those are also quite on margins and unsupported (non-recognized nor well-known).

Im really curious because imo no game is perfect and has its own flaws - here are those minor things that probably 99.5% players dont mind that much - because, you know, this is just small project. And what are you doing here seems as polluting this thread with unreasonable demands (almost at the same level with "omg, no futas here...dev, please add some futas, they fit the story perfectly..behold, the lordi have spoken!".

Just my 6 cents on this "topic".
" Polluting the thread with unreasonable demands"LOL are you serious? All I did was give my opinion on this games characters and somehow I'm now polluting the thread with unreasonable demands?. I won't even entertain u any further than this cause you're either trying to start something or you're diluted.
 

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It's a visual novel, not real life. There are obviously limitations to the number of choices you can have and so on. The more choices you have the more variables there are and that could be a big problem going forward with all the branching and so on. It's a visual novel/game so you should treat it as one. If you want to go for V then you should make the right choices for her path. It's that easy.

Also the MC and Jasmine didn't have sex so I have no idea where you got that from.
I meant the exchange student. I forgot her name and called her jasmine.

So what you're saying is because it's a visual novel characters shouldn't feel guilty if they act a certain negative way? And nobody was demanding any advanced choices lol. All I said was the MC is an asshole and a creep based on how the Dev wrote the character. I even said the choices doesn't matter because even if u choose good guy options it does not feel sincere because of the way the dev wrote the character overall.

I seriously don't know how hard it is for you guys to understand the point I'm trying to makes cuase yall are bringing up irrelevant shiz acting like I'm demanding stuff when all I said was the MC did not feel guilty for cheating on V even tho he said he wants to redeem himself. My problem has nothing to do with the choices but rather with the MC's general behavior.
 

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Now I got your point your main Motive is to tell that Veronica is best for MC and other paths are creep for you so far. Okay, That tells a lot that you love Milf kind of Personality, but that does not make the other paths and mc creep at all. Definitely, you have selected the cheats option and enabled the stats of all Including Allison and Maggie in the top that is Why MC reacted that way but if you are not interested in that then Why you engaged in the scenes as they are pretty much avoidable, In my Walkthrough I get Jasmine and horny scenes Where in Party She was drunken and Horny and inside car She rubbed her ass with MC's cock but No sex scene so far, I guess you like Veronica so much that you can't take other characters very well. Well, Let me tell you that Real Creep was Veronica so far in the Game, not MC. His writing is so far is great, And he is kind of weird goofy but still not creepy at all. Veronica is so far the most clingy, self-centered, and jealous one. She is so irritating for MC during his worst days. In some cases like Allison in the park scene may look like she is bad but actually, after that scene, she definitely has good intentions, Maggie is very homely with MC and yeah some scenes she reacts like too shy but according to her mental condition of her mother and past She is like that you can't help that and Jasmine is very fun loving, Fiery types to cheer up mc. Sorry but no Sorry :whistle::rolleyes:
Honestly not really. The only reason why I stuck with V is because the MC was already dating her. But I did paths for each LI and the rest I just found Annoying so by default I guess V is the best. But honestly I'd rather just have the MC fix things with Ally and Lilly and try to be a better person but that's not happening obviously. MCs an asshole and a creep.

Oh and yeah we can have different opinions obviously so it's cool if you don't agree with me. Some people here are acting like I'm insulting their girlfriends lol yet I'm just giving my opinion on fictional characters. It's sad but hey what can we do. It's the reason why I hate f9 sometimes and rarely come on here . U cant even have an opinion without some swafty getting offended.
 

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Let me ask you just one thing - do you know any complex game (multiple characters/LIs with multiple paths) that is "perfect" (aka to your particular liking)?
I do know a few, though those arent that complex, or are tad shorter/less ambitious (regarding its content). Ironically those are also quite on margins and unsupported (non-recognized nor well-known).

Im really curious because imo no game is perfect and has its own flaws - here are those minor things that probably 99.5% players dont mind that much - because, you know, this is just small project. And what are you doing here seems as polluting this thread with unreasonable demands (almost at the same level with "omg, no futas here...dev, please add some futas, they fit the story perfectly..behold, the lordi have spoken!".

Just my 6 cents on this "topic".
No VN is perfect obviously but am I seriously demanding much from this game? Hell I'm not demanding anything. All I wanted was for the MC to at least show some guilt which would then let me the player know that he really is serious about wanting to redeem himself that he really is serious about regretting what he did to his wife and daughter. Literally all it took was an internal monologue to express that and that would've sufficed. But instead he didn't acknowledge it and instead got somewhat annoyed when V called rue next day. I seriously don't know why you guys are acting like Im hating on this game when I've been saying the entire time that I like this game and the story, it's just the characters I'm not fond of and the way the MC shows no signs of actually wanting to redeem himself yet wasn't that part of the narrative. That and his creepy behavior but I get that most porn VNs have the "should I take a peak" option but I feel like this game could be so much more than just another porn game with a story. That's partly where my disappointment comes in. I kinda wanted more for it cause of how good the story is but the MC is written like a generic porn MC which takes away from the story for me.

t's also cray how some of yall(not throwing shade at u) can't even see that the MC is an asshole and a creep.
These games must I've fucked your heads up or something cause damn.
 

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Now I got your point your main Motive is to tell that Veronica is best for MC and other paths are creep for you so far. Okay, That tells a lot that you love Milf kind of Personality, but that does not make the other paths and mc creep at all. Definitely, you have selected the cheats option and enabled the stats of all Including Allison and Maggie in the top that is Why MC reacted that way but if you are not interested in that then Why you engaged in the scenes as they are pretty much avoidable, In my Walkthrough I get Jasmine and horny scenes Where in Party She was drunken and Horny and inside car She rubbed her ass with MC's cock but No sex scene so far, I guess you like Veronica so much that you can't take other characters very well. Well, Let me tell you that Real Creep was Veronica so far in the Game, not MC. His writing is so far is great, And he is kind of weird goofy but still not creepy at all. Veronica is so far the most clingy, self-centered, and jealous one. She is so irritating for MC during his worst days. In some cases like Allison in the park scene may look like she is bad but actually, after that scene, she definitely has good intentions, Maggie is very homely with MC and yeah some scenes she reacts like too shy but according to her mental condition of her mother and past She is like that you can't help that and Jasmine is very fun loving, Fiery types to cheer up mc. Sorry but no Sorry :whistle::rolleyes:
I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing when i wrote about the MC behaving like a creep regardless of the path choosen.

What i was pointing is that during the scenes with Maggie (it happens only on her scenes from my various playthrough) the MC will be forced to behave like a creep without the player choice.

While you have that choice (being creep or not) with other LI.

I rewrote the case in point so you may see better what i mean as i just got through in my new playthrough :
At a point of the story Maggie will go to the MC in tears and terrified after she had been threatened in her home, i select the choices that point the MC to behave like a nice guy concerned by her safety and choose for the MC to bring her a diner at a restaurant to help her calm down and feel safer.

Maggie will then take some clothes from her dresser still feeling unsafe and shaken by her experience with the guy that threatened her. And here is what the MC does to show how much he geniunely is trying to help :

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It would have been no problem if the MC was not a "trying to be a better man" path or if i had made some other choice that point the MC to not really genuinely care about Maggie situation as after all you have several choices in the game that can lead into various paths , but in that case there's no choice and the MC will behave like a creep even if it does not fit the path.

Other people additionally mentionned another forced creep MC case : one of the voyeur scene (always with Maggie) was forced too with the MC being automatically a creep and checking inside Maggie's home from the door. The dev replied it was a mistake and would fix it for next time :
https://f95zone.to/threads/race-of-life-ep-2-extra-new-underground-studio.130096/post-12259358

So i hope this one is unintended too and will go behind one of those future fixes.

note : I'm not sure how you can see Veronica as a "MILF", she's a mature woman of the same age as the MC and has no children of her own.
And it has nothing at all to do with behaving like a creep or not, especially as that character is the only one that is really in love with the MC (love that the MC can accept or disregard from the choices) from the start of the story
 
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I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing when i wrote about the MC behaving like a creep regardless of the path choosen.

What i was pointing is that during the scenes with Maggie (it happens only on her scenes from my various playthrough) the MC will be forced to behave like a creep without the player choice.

While you have that choice (being creep or not) with other LI.

I rewrote the case in point so you may see better what i mean as i just got through in my new playthrough :
At a point of the story Maggie will go to the MC in tears and terrified after she had been threatened in her home, i select the choices that point the MC to behave like a nice guy concerned by her safety and choose for the MC to bring her a diner at a restaurant to help her calm down and feel safer.

Maggie will then take some clothes from her dresser still feeling unsafe and shaken by her experience with the guy that threatened her. And here is what the MC does about to show how much he geniunely is trying to help :

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It would have been no problem if the MC was not a "trying to be a better man" path or if i had made some other choice that point the MC to not really genuinely care abotu Maggie situation as after all you have several choices in the game that can lead into various paths , but in that case there's no choice and the MC will behave like a creep even if it does not fit the path.

Other people additionally mentionned another forced creep MC case : one of the voyeur scene (always with Maggie) was forced too with the MC being automatically a creep and checking inside Maggie's home from the door. The dev replied it was a mistake and would fix it for next time :
https://f95zone.to/threads/race-of-life-ep-2-extra-new-underground-studio.130096/post-12259358

So i hope this one is unintended too and will go behind one of those future fixes.

note : I'm not sure how you can see Veronica as a "MILF", she's a mature woman of the same age as the MC and has no children of her own.
And it has nothing at all to do with behaving like a creep or not, especially as that character is the only one that is really in love with the MC (love that the MC can accept or disregard from the choices) from the start of the story
I got your point that you tell which part should be corrected and the developer saw it and will correct it in the future, But Veronica is in love, Something is called selfless love, and another one is called Demanding love but okay I get your point it's okay. Choices prefer and yeah that's good.
 

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Honestly not really. The only reason why I stuck with V is because the MC was already dating her. But I did paths for each LI and the rest I just found Annoying so by default I guess V is the best. But honestly I'd rather just have the MC fix things with Ally and Lilly and try to be a better person but that's not happening obviously. MCs an asshole and a creep.

Oh and yeah we can have different opinions obviously so it's cool if you don't agree with me. Some people here are acting like I'm insulting their girlfriends lol yet I'm just giving my opinion on fictional characters. It's sad but hey what can we do. It's the reason why I hate f9 sometimes and rarely come on here . U cant even have an opinion without some swafty getting offended.
Guess What? There are a lot of ways to Put some matter or decision. But directly putting hate on the Game and nothing more, do you even know what is called Healthy criticizing something, you might bring up some part where you felt some changes can be done or so but No you are Just attacking every character LI's and MC except Saint Veronica. Wow, how did you come up with all of these? No LI's game is perfect...Do you know How much time it takes the game to make?? or ever tried to play the game with the captions reading seems like you just skipped the game to play the V and MC part. It's not like you are offending others by telling them What you like or Who is a creep and Who is not...You are just bullying UndergroundStudio , If you are saying that parts where MC is not with V and He is looking creepy those parts are also avoidable that is called Walkthrough. Respect the Characters that make up the game. Tell us which parts you feel should be improved but no....Wait Wait Wait...I replied to the other guy but why are you replying to me that means both account holders are the same person...Right?? So from that side, you are replying to me?? One Veronica and MC in the game doesn't pull up the Whole game, By that case You feel MC's daughter is also creepy cuz She came in between MC and V's relationship. I get it. :geek: :FacePalm:
 

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Amazing update, the first one was setting some standard and it still one of the best start ever made imo.
As for the girls if Jasmine is definitely my favorite Allison is probably the most interesting one. Maggie is really cute too.
I like Natalya, and Veronica is probably my least favorite main girl, kind of plain/boring despite being hot.
Not a bad character tho, it makes them all differents.
 
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Amazing title. This is a gem in the making. A really promising start with top-notch visuals and animations, good pace, excellent humor, smokin' hot chicks, likable side characters, drama that hits when least expecting, can't say anything bad about it, 'cause there is not a dull moment in it. Choices are very good, and they actually matter! I love small touches like when with choices the atmosphere changes background music gets more flirty or serious depends of your choices - e.g. with Jasmine in lab. More people need to play this fantastic game and support the developer if they can. Speaking of the dev, I heard he had serious health issues. Hope everything is ok now.
 

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Hello everyone!
The next scene is ready! It has 8 animations ready, and I'm moving on to scene 3, which we'll be tweaking a bit. It will be shorter than we initially thought, but the outcome will be better in terms of the story development
We've also started translations; the first 5 scenes from Episode 1 are getting translated. At the moment, we have volunteers for translating into Spanish, Polish, Russian, Chinese, German, French, Hindi, and Bengali! This is a very difficult and time-consuming task, but we hope to translate most of the planned languages so that players from different parts of the world can enjoy the game without the worry of not understanding something
Therefore, I'd like to remind and encourage anyone who knows any languages and is proficient enough in English to translate Race of Life into their language - join our team! Every bit of help matters, and there's truly a lot of text to translate. Please get in touch with us here or via Discord.

And a few words from Joshua:

Things are progressing along nicely on the script front.
There's been some expansion, but nothing that should add a whole lot to the 3.1 development timeline. 3.2 is about 1/3 complete, including some unique lewd scenes that I think will appeal to some fans of girls that may not have had the most screen time as of yet.
It's funny writing lewd scenes, because sometimes it's with kinks or preferences I don't have, which means I have to research and try to find out about how those things play out. Other times it's for things that I am into, and then I need to make sure I don't turn it into my own private therapy session with various exes.
I know some people probably believe that lewd scenes are just about throwing some tits, ass and vulva at the player and throwing in some smutty descriptions of a penis, but there's a lot more to it than you might think. It actually takes quite a bit of effort to write the lewd content, mostly because when I do, I start to second guess my own bedroom behaviors. I don't recommend too much self reflection on that end. It can lead to performance anxiety. Or overconfidence.
Of course, there is a lot more to the script than just the lewd content. All the girls from previous episodes get some time in the spotlight, and some new characters filter in (not many though, we don't want an enormous cast of characters).
On a side note, some fans have made a subreddit dedicated to the game. Feel free to check it out if you'd like to discuss the game or characters with other fans.
Just note that we aren't moderators there, so if you want any immediate feedback or need to contact us, Patreon or Discord is still the best channel.
 
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On V's route i chose to have the MC take Jasmin to the party and have sex with her just to see if he'd have any regrets or feel guilty and guess what? None whatsoever. Not during nor after he had sex with her. He doesn't even acknowledge that he batrayed V even after he promised her that he wouldn't hurt her more or less. He just continued like he did nothing wrong and when she called the next morning to ask him to go on a hike with her he seemed irritated.
I never got any indication the MC would feel guilty unless im forgetting something. ( tho he probably should since he is just stringing her along) As V is the one that wanted something serious and it was clear the MC didnt and I think he made it clear to her. I think you only able to turn it into something serious when going on the hike at the lake.
 
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I'm hoping for more developments with Kris in the next update. I don't feel anything with Kris yet that makes me want to peruse her as a LI. That is because for me looks is the least important thing when it comes to a LI and I want to get to know them and such first. Right now Kris is mostly just looks for me. Honestly Kris is between being friend zoned and not for me but she is still better than Pushy Veronica and the other student what's her name Alexa and Natalya.

Right now for me it goes something like this
Allison
Jasmine
Maggie
Kris
Natalya
Veronica
Alexa
 
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I didn't even know Kris was going to be in the game until we started seeing those countdown pictures prior to the last release and I remember wondering "who's that?" when seeing her but didn't concern myself too much with it, but in-game she was pretty damn hot I thought. Definitely at the top of my list now and looking forward to getting her backstory - sounds like MC will get an opportunity to spend some time with her soon, and that exchange at one of the races indicated there was some other stuff going on when that bookie guy was calling her some kind of nickname that she didn't seem to like much.
 
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