VN Ren'Py Race of Life [Ep. 3.2 Extra Fix3] [Underground Studio]

[metamorphMP]

wow, what a hit parade of V hate posting I missed with those ratings lol

I only played the game not that long ago, so I'll join the rates

#1 Maggie - woman you can only dream of, absolutely stunning outside and great inside.
#2 Veronica - I love how devoted she is to MC, and I (as MC) am grateful for everything V has done for him, it's really tough choice for me between Maggie/V
#3 Natalya
#5 Alexa/Jasmine
#6 Kris
#7 Allison - my last option, usually I agree to disagree with you, bro AlexMpog but in this case I'd rather Ex remains Ex, yeah, moving forward is the way for me here.

 

[byaaahh]

I don't think dev gave us a real reason to do it but i genuinely dislike Natalya, i can't even explain it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

She is super sus.

She seems more interested in getting closer to the tech and gaming the MC/others than actually connecting with them. Smells like espionage considering she is trained in languages and seduction.

 

[TonyMurray]

I don't think dev gave us a real reason to do it but i genuinely dislike Natalya, i can't even explain it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Same here, but later today I'll start a proper Nat save and see if she can change my mind. Same with Veronica. I'm open-minded enough to know they can work for me, but so far they haven't.

Since we're doing it then, my pre-3.2 rankings:
1. Allison. Always.
2. Maggie.
3. Jasmine.
4. Veronica.
5. Natalya.
6. I have an "others" save that I will branch out as applicable, but I'm not ranking Kris (not much of a fan), Alexa (not a fan at all), Kalani (looking forward to more), or anyone else until there's some proper content and a potential ongoing save for them.

 

[doovel]

Of course the marriage falling apart is probably on both of them, thats how its usually is.

Yet it seemed like allie went for the confrontation to adress their problems while Jake ducked away, closed his eyes and just prayed for divine intervention. And i dont know, maybe im oldschool but hes the man, take care of your fucking relationship or end it when your wife seems unable to divorce you/break up. So i would at least give it a 60/40 towards allie but it doesnt really matter.

Its okay to not work anymore after a time in a relationship but even than its just not okay to cheat before ending it.

Yeah the hatefuck is awesome, i just dont like the aftermath at all. I will never understand people claiming allie is prude when shes obviously a wildcat with her man lol. The wedding night extra scene was hot too



By the way as im always trashtalking Veronica, im playing a cheating on Veronica route atm for completion and i have to admit that her cuckquean path is kinda funny and hot!

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Funnily enough if it was me in this situation I would also label it a 60/40 split. But as an outsider I can't really fault them unequally, especially not when there's a kid in the mix. I could see myself making the same mistake of not addressing problems in the relationship if I saw it hurting my kid. Granted I wouldn't let it get nearly as bad for as long as the MC did.

On the aftermath, the fallout might be bad *for now*. I could see that shifting in the future, depending on if and how the MC grows as a person. She might shift her opinion of him too.

Well damn, I might have to try that Cuckqueen path myself now. Something to look forward to.

 

[byaaahh]

Same here, but later today I'll start a proper Nat save and see if she can change my mind. Same with Veronica. I'm open-minded enough to know they can work for me, but so far they haven't.

Since we're doing it then, my pre-3.2 rankings:
1. Allison. Always.
2. Maggie.
3. Jasmine.
4. Veronica.
5. Natalya.
6. I have an "others" save that I will branch out as applicable, but I'm not ranking Kris (not much of a fan), Alexa (not a fan at all), Kalani (looking forward to more), or anyone else until there's some proper content and a potential ongoing save for them.

My list is basically yours but flip Jasmine and Maggie. I'm a sucker for redheads and ponytails.

 

[Dessolos]

Same here, but later today I'll start a proper Nat save and see if she can change my mind. Same with Veronica. I'm open-minded enough to know they can work for me, but so far they haven't.

Since we're doing it then, my pre-3.2 rankings:
1. Allison. Always.
2. Maggie.
3. Jasmine.
4. Veronica.
5. Natalya.
6. I have an "others" save that I will branch out as applicable, but I'm not ranking Kris (not much of a fan), Alexa (not a fan at all), Kalani (looking forward to more), or anyone else until there's some proper content and a potential ongoing save for them.

only difference between your list and mine I put V in the same column as Alexa, Kris might make her way there soon I started to dislike Kris more in this update with how she responds if you turn down the threesome.

My list is basically yours but flip Jasmine and Maggie. I'm a sucker for redheads and ponytails.

That's how I used to rank Maggie and Jas but this update made me like Maggie more

 

[byaaahh]

That's how I used to rank Maggie and Jas but this update made me like Maggie more

I mean Maggie is good, sometimes a bit too damsel in distress-y, but enjoyable. Looks after MC when Lily has the accident.

I feel going into the future there will be a lot more Jas. She's in his class, works on the project, shares common interest in racing.

I don't think she'll budge Allison from top spot though

 

[Zorro#34]

wow, what a hit parade of V hate posting I missed with those ratings lol
I only played the game not that long ago, so I'll join the rates

Since we're doing it then, my pre-3.2 rankings:

Okay, here's mine. I might be a V advocate, but she actually isn't my #1.

1. Maggie. Face and soul of an angel. One of my favourite models an all AVNdom, and #8 in my Top-10 rating across all games. However, Jake isn't the best guy for her and, when around her, he doesn't feel like himself. So, she isn't my 'canonical' choice.
2. Veronica. I just love how she looks at Jake… among other things.
3. Allison. Probably my favourite character and person in the game, but as a LI, she falls flat to me. I just don't think she should ever completely forgive Jake for what he did.
4. Jasmine. I like her dialogue, she can be hilarious sometimes… But otherwise completely not my type of gal.
5. Natalya. I hope she's a spy and will turn out an antagonist unless the player focuses on her and converts her with Jake's magic cock. Otherwise she loses a lot as a character, even if that makes her a somewhat better LI.

HM: Alexa. I still think she would look more logical as Jake's lab assistant while Jasmine could just be his racing partner. She's the A student, c'mon...

 

[Krytax123]

Funnily enough if it was me in this situation I would also label it a 60/40 split. But as an outsider I can't really fault them unequally, especially not when there's a kid in the mix. I could see myself making the same mistake of not addressing problems in the relationship if I saw it hurting my kid. Granted I wouldn't let it get nearly as bad for as long as the MC did.

On the aftermath, the fallout might be bad *for now*. I could see that shifting in the future, depending on if and how the MC grows as a person. She might shift her opinion of him too.

Well damn, I might have to try that Cuckqueen path myself now. Something to look forward to.

Yeah their problems are somewhat relatable which makes their breakup/relationship very realistic imo

Its 100% wrong to not adress the problems in your marriage and to just ignore them but at the same time there are reasons while people can be mentally (or otherwise) exhausted/overwhelmed/swamped or whatever

And nah, unfortunaly i think the hatefuck is a deadend for the allison route, Allie burning the wedding picture which she kept on her wall even two years after their bad breakup is a strong symbolic that she was finally able to get over Jake.

You literally have to play Jake as the biggest possible asshole ever - including stuff like blaming the mother of his child for an accident she couldnt do anything about - to get allison to be able to get over jake.

As I said, I don't really trust the MC's framing, especially at the start of the game. The fact that Allison doesn't debate his statement doesn't automatically make the statement valid.

But that aside, just because the two of them weren't really affectionate anymore doesn't mean they're as good as divorced. The two could have still gone through the motions in a more business-like manner, cooperating on official matters (Lily most obviously) but drifting apart otherwise. I wouldn't describe that as dead, though it clearly would die eventually, likely once Lily grew up.

To my mind, that's a very different situation from the MC not only starting an affair with a mutual coworker, but trying to brazen it out once Allison caught wind of it. YMMV.

I think the relationship was already bad before the cheating happened and there was no "brazening it out", i think Allie immediatly divorced Jake when she found out.

I believe that their intimacy died down sooner than that but thats just normal when a relationship turns bad and nobody tries to fix it.

The MC's excuses are just bullshit tho "he started cheating to forget how badly he was ignoring their problems" and "was ignoring their problems to always get one more day as a family". Maybe dont cheat with your co-worker if you want more family days lol? Or try to fix your marriage or do literally anything?

It really really baffles me how many posters here excuse his behavior just because they dislike allison, all these people would HATE a LI who would have behaved like that (like if allison had cheated on Jake ...).

Allison and Jake's mindset were very different regarding their relationship imo, they both were aware that things were bad but imo Allison simply never entertained the idea of a possible breakup/divorce and even less a blatant betrayal of trust.

And imo even after she divorced Jake she wasnt able to accept that they are done and wont get back together. I think she felt forced to divorce him yet at the same time expected/hoped he would make it somehow up to her while she probably doesnt even knew herself how that would be possible. Jake not doing anything about it and her still not being able to get over him made her even more sad/angry/pissed i think.

I kinda like how contradictory she is as its so obvious that shes only deluding herself but doesnt want at all what she keeps saying.

This is said by her quite early in the avn (even before jake did anything to make their relationship better) and while she told him, that he should stay away from her:



Nobody who wants to be left alone and is done with the other one would say/want/expect something like that and she does it only because shes emotional and hides her feelings less due to it. Same with her ring and the wedding pictures.


But anyway and about the whole Veronica and Allison "trashtalking here":

I think its great when LI's are polarizing yet still loved by many. Flaws make these characters and storys more realistic and IMO race of life manages to potray it in a believable way. Everyone has at least kind of reasons for their behavior and its not like some dumb tv shows with drama just for the sake of drama.

I dislike Veronica but think its great that shes part of this avn and enriches this avn. I think so far she gives this avn more than for example Maggie who i like way more but is just kinda boring and bland so far and doesnt has a lot going for her other than being a damsel in distress.

I think (not counting her handjob scene which was strange) there is no way anyone could even dislike maggie as shes just so .. i dunno ... not much there other than being pretty and supportive?

 

[Dr.TSoni]

She is super sus.

She seems more interested in getting closer to the tech and gaming the MC/others than actually connecting with them. Smells like espionage considering she is trained in languages and seduction.

Not to mention the contradictions. On the one hand she wants to reduce her breasts because she is not taken seriously in her field, on the other she describes how she uses her body to get everything she wants from men

I dislike Veronica but think its great that shes part of this avn and enriches this avn. I think so far she gives this avn more than for example Maggie who i like way more but is just kinda boring and bland so far and doesnt has a lot going for her other than being a damsel in distress.

I think (not counting her handjob scene which was strange) there is no way anyone could even dislike maggie as shes just so .. i dunno ... not much there other than being pretty and supportive?

It may be bad to say but Maggie is actually a bit flat

 

[SBS233]

YEAH，Maggie！！！

 

[Krytax123]

Not to mention the contradictions. On the one hand she wants to reduce her breasts because she is not taken seriously in her field, on the other she describes how she uses her body to get everything she wants from men


It may be bad to say but Maggie is actually a bit flat

Yeah, Maggie is so adorable and beautiful and careing but ... just nothing else yet. She would be a better LI for a different (younger) MC imo. I have to admit that i think the subplot with her mom isnt needed at all in this story but maybe the coherences will convince me ohterwise when we get the bigger picture.


About Natalya: I cant help but think the devs are trying to play us, there are soooooo many super obvious hints about nat being a spy from the very beginning. Shes so hyyyyper pushy and exposes herself quite a lot, we even get thoughts of the MC realising it.

Being a spy (and so personally close) just doesnt make this much sense to me at the point she was introduced (would make more sense after the conference now for example). I kinda hope for a "better" suprise along the way than her being a spy but she for sure isnt what she pretends to be.

If she indeed is a spy, i think the devs should have made it less obvious, who would even be surprised at this point?

By the way has anyone figured out or any clues by whom the mc got knocked out with the gun after the wyatt fight? my only ideas are rosie, freely or maybe toby but i feel like its none of them yet someone we already met.

 

[SBS233]

wow, what a hit parade of V hate posting I missed with those ratings lol

I only played the game not that long ago, so I'll join the rates

#1 Maggie - woman you can only dream of, absolutely stunning outside and great inside.
#2 Veronica - I love how devoted she is to MC, and I (as MC) am grateful for everything V has done for him, it's really tough choice for me between Maggie/V
#3 Natalya
#5 Alexa/Jasmine
#6 Kris
#7 Allison - my last option, usually I agree to disagree with you, bro AlexMpog but in this case I'd rather Ex remains Ex, yeah, moving forward is the way for me here.

Maggie！MY ANGEL!

 

[DrEFC]

Do you have to restart the game with the update from 3.1 to 3.2? The game still finishes my saves at the same place. Apologies if answered in the thread earlier.

 

[emma5132]

Some of us have had this problem & nobody seems to have an answer, were you using a mod in your previous gameplay?

Yes I did

 

[byaaahh]

About Natalya: I cant help but think the devs are trying to play us, there are soooooo many super obvious hints about nat being a spy from the very beginning. Shes so hyyyyper pushy and exposes herself quite a lot, we even get thoughts of the MC realising it.

Being a spy (and so personally close) just doesnt make this much sense to me at the point she was introduced (would make more sense after the conference now for example). I kinda hope for a "better" suprise along the way than her being a spy but she for sure isnt what she pretends to be.

If she indeed is a spy, i think the devs should have made it less obvious, who would even be surprised at this point?

It sounds like corporate espionage, one of the big racing teams looking to steal the tech.

The MC is shopping the tech for grant money, she's tasked with getting close to MC to ascertain how successful it is. She just happens to move in next door to his best friends and quickly ingratiates herself with the Professor by supplying him blowjobs after their first 2 encounters. All of this with no security detail as expected for an ambassador's daughter.

She super sus.

 

[Hildegardt]

It really really baffles me how many posters here excuse his behavior just because they dislike allison, all these people would HATE a LI who would have behaved like that (like if allison had cheated on Jake ...).

This thread could be a study on main character syndrome. Usually this forum is passionately rabid, when discussing things like cheating. The sudden "nuance" almost gave me whiplash.

 

[Ilhares]

Do you have to restart the game with the update from 3.1 to 3.2? The game still finishes my saves at the same place. Apologies if answered in the thread earlier.

I just roll back a frame or two and it works perfectly fine.

 

[AlexMpog]

...usually I agree to disagree with you, bro AlexMpog but in this case I'd rather Ex remains Ex, yeah, moving forward is the way for me here.

Moving forward is always the way

wow, what a hit parade of V hate posting I missed with those ratings lol

I only played the game not that long ago, so I'll join the rates

#1 Maggie - woman you can only dream of, absolutely stunning outside and great inside.
#2 Veronica - I love how devoted she is to MC, and I (as MC) am grateful for everything V has done for him, it's really tough choice for me between Maggie/V
#3 Natalya
#5 Alexa/Jasmine
#6 Kris
#7 Allison - my last option, usually I agree to disagree with you, bro AlexMpog but in this case I'd rather Ex remains Ex, yeah, moving forward is the way for me here.

heh, well, I haven't played last update, but so far my rating was:

1) Maggie (for some period of time Jas was my fav, but then Maggie took over, I agree she is great as a person and has a stunning look, still if we only talk about looks - Jasmine would my fav I think, unfortunately her attitude is not that great)
2) Jasmine (I admit though - after reading some comments here I think after this update she might get a massive downgrade and V will take 2nd place instead)
3) Veronica (her only crime from my perspective is that she is in the same game with such characters like Maggie and Jasmine, I like her a lot, it's just - I like Maggie and Jaz more, well, at least so far, as for your's "tough choice between Maggie/Veronica" - from what I read in a thread - there might be a V cuck queen route and maybe you will be able to be with both M+V, but it's a speculation at this point, also you will have to cheat I guess)), so - on your own risk heh)
4) Natalya

Other girls (girls I'm not really interested as a LIs due to different reasons):
Kris, Allison, Alexa

A little bit about this situation with EX. I think I've never actually voiced my opinion on this matter.
First of all, I despise cheating and what MC did to Allison is just bad, yes, you've been leaving in a toxic relationship, yes, it has been like this for years, but that's not legit reason to cheat, wanna fuck around - get a divorce or just break up and enjoy, that's what I would do.

Now, about who is to blame - I genuinely believe that in every couple/relationship both sides are to blame, always two sides are responsible and guilty for not working enough on their relationship. I've seen here people mostly blame MC for everything and even not trying to fix relationship (well he cheated so I guess he deserves more shit heh, justified), well, what about Allison - is she blind? is she deaf? - nope, while living with somebody for years you notice things, that smth is off, unless you intentionally decide to be ignorant and live in oblivion, well that's on you then, don't be surprised at the end.
Anyways - this is my perspective. Also, worth to mention - there are some inconsistencies in dialogues (MC and EX), which also might be the reason why people see this situation differently.

Back to the game - since I am an immersive player - at some point I was considering dropping the game because of this forced cheating thing, but then I tried to look at this from a different angle, I mean people make mistakes, yeah, we are not ideal. So I thought that playing as Jake will be the chance to start over for me as MC - be a better BF/HB for next girl and be a good father for Lily.

As for Allison - nope, not gonna back into that toxic relationship, we tried, it didn't work out, bye bye, life is too short for this shit. Even If I wanted to get back, I think Allison shouldn't forgive, I know I wouldn't, betrayal - It's not smth you can take out of your head that easily, it just keeps eating you from the inside. (nope, nobody cheated on me IRL, betrayal can be different, it doesn't mean cheating per se).

Ideal option for me - to stay neutral/stay friends with Ex - this way I could stay beside Lily and take care of her.

P.S. Sorry for my weird/gibberish english, been working almost the whole night and just woke up recently, still drinking a coffee)

 

[Dr.TSoni]

If she indeed is a spy, i think the devs should have made it less obvious, who would even be surprised at this point?

Unfortunately, even in the best games on this site it happens to write characters by archetype. Then maybe dev is making us all fools, anything could be XD