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TonyMurray

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As for Allison - nope, not gonna back into that toxic relationship, we tried, it didn't work out, bye bye, life is too short for this shit. Even If I wanted to get back, I think Allison shouldn't forgive, I know I wouldn't, betrayal - It's not smth you can take out of your head that easily, it just eats alive no matter how hard you try to get rid of it. (nope, nobody cheated on me IRL, betrayal can be different, it doesn't mean cheating per se).
For me, it's a bit like a Quantum Leap situation. We didn't try, Allison and Jake tried. Now I'm in Jake's body and the relationship is going to get a second chance. I'll be the husband Jake wasn't, and I'll fix that family, starting with making Lily okay, and making Allie okay into the process.

In relationship terms though, I see it as this couple who were in love and they got married and had a kid. That can be hard, and there's a reason a lot of young families end up breaking up. Sometimes you have to lose something to realise why you loved it in the first place. That's Jake and Allison, and both of them realising that is the first step to both of them growing, and healing their relationship.
 

pitao

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Do you have to restart the game with the update from 3.1 to 3.2? The game still finishes my saves at the same place. Apologies if answered in the thread earlier.
Nope, my save of the last render of 3.1 works in every playthrough I made, they just rollback some renders so wasn't an issue. If you don't save a lot then can be a problem, I had some older saves work even if rollback a bit and others giving errors because they couldn't find a place to rollback. FYI I used the mod in 3.1, really think don't matter if you used it or not, saw reports here of players not using mods and having the same issues loading 3.1 saves.
 
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ename144

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Natalya describes it quite good:

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Yikes. Now I'm really worried Allison's path is going to be about the MC and Allison reigniting their original passion rather than learning to communicate and starting a new relationship from scratch. The latter *might* actually work, the former would be every bit as doomed as it was last time. :(
 
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MrDude1977

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I think the Dev dropped the ball with Maggie she was my favorite till her first scene. I'm not into femdom at all. To me Maggie is like eatting my favorite food and half way through eatting it i find a bug in it, no matter what the rest of it tastes like you don't want to finish it because you keep thinking about that bug you found. Dev should go back and either remove it or make it avoidable.
 
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I think the Dev dropped the ball with Maggie she was my favorite till her first scene. I'm not into femdom at all. To me Maggie is like eatting my favorite food and half way through eatting it i find a bug in it, no matter what the rest of it tastes like you don't want to finish it because you keep thinking about that bug you found. Dev should go back and either remove it or make it avoidable.
If you consider that first scene Femdom, I don't know what to tell you. I am a big fan of femdom, and that is not even in the realm of femdom. I think many people have a distorted view of what femdom is.

Plus if you actually played the latest update she has a reason and explains why she did that. Also After talking to dev it can go two routes possibly, not going to reveal more, but it looks like it will be possible to still have some bdsm elements in the futurea and a more vanilla route.
 
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If you consider that first scene Femdom, I don't know what to tell you. I am a big fan of femdom, and that is not even in the realm of femdom. I think many people have a distorted view of what femdom is.

Plus if you actually played the latest update she has a reason and explains why she did that. Also After talking to dev it can go two routes possibly, not going to reveal more, but it looks like it will be possible to still have some bdsm elements in the futurea and a more vanilla route.
May be light femdom but femdom it is.
 

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Yikes. Now I'm really worried Allison's path is going to be about the MC and Allison reigniting their original passion rather than learning to communicate and starting a new relationship from scratch. The latter *might* actually work, the former would be every bit as doomed as it was last time. :(
What would be wrong with reigniting their original passion, but incorporating the growth they have had since separating? Pretty sure it's mentioned they used to be great together, life or work just ground them down and they lost the spark.

Lily's accident, while tragic, seems to have been the catalyst that forced MC to become the man Allie always wanted him to be. He's driven, has a goal and they're both communicating. After the dinner at Allie's, we find out she still misses him and she still wears the engagement ring.

If the battery is a success, they will be set for life. Free from having to work, I don't see MC not committing time to being a great dad and a better partner.
 
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TonyMurray

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I think the Dev dropped the ball with Maggie she was my favorite till her first scene. I'm not into femdom at all. To me Maggie is like eatting my favorite food and half way through eatting it i find a bug in it, no matter what the rest of it tastes like you don't want to finish it because you keep thinking about that bug you found. Dev should go back and either remove it or make it avoidable.
The massage? That already is avoidable.
 

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What would be wrong with reigniting their original passion, but incorporating the growth they have had since separating? Pretty sure it's mentioned they used to be great together, life or work just ground them down and they lost the spark.

Lily's accident, while tragic, seems to have been the catalyst that forced MC to become the man Allie always wanted him to be. He's driven, has a goal and they're both communicating. After the dinner at Allie's, we find out she still misses him and she still wears the engagement ring.

If the battery is a success, they will be set for life. Free from having to work, I don't see MC not committing time to being a great dad and a better partner.
And as we are now in control of the MC, we should have the player agency to ensure that he does (if you take the Allie route of course).
 
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Dr.TSoni

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What would be wrong with reigniting their original passion, but incorporating the growth they have had since separating? Pretty sure it's mentioned they used to be great together, life or work just ground them down and they lost the spark.
More than a lost spark, it seems that after Lily's birth they started to behave as they thought they should behave; Fucking their couple dynamics.
 

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What would be wrong with reigniting their original passion, but incorporating the growth they have had since separating? Pretty sure it's mentioned they used to be great together, life or work just ground them down and they lost the spark.

Lily's accident, while tragic, seems to have been the catalyst that forced MC to become the man Allie always wanted him to be. He's driven, has a goal and they're both communicating. After the dinner at Allie's, we find out she still misses him and she still wears the engagement ring.

If the battery is a success, they will be set for life. Free from having to work, I don't see MC not committing time to being a great dad and a better partner.
I've never taken the hate route, but it seems very much like there's two different marriage stories. If you take the reconciliatory route then the conversations vary drastically. I didn't include some of the first scenes in the previous snip (https://f95zone.to/threads/race-of-life-ep-3-2-extra-underground-studio.130096/post-15654027), as it wasn't part of the original conversation but is more relevant here.

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And then another scene when they are driving to the WUI, it he has no reply to her comments
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Then on the dinner date with Allie, he admits to letting them down and that he won't anymore.
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Definitely makes it harder to discuss a topic where it seems on the Hate route, it's Allie's fault and on the Reconciliatory route (for lack of better name), it's MC's fault.
 
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byaaahh

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I've never taken the hate route, but it seems very much like there's two different marriage stories. If you take the reconciliatory route then the conversations vary drastically. I didn't include some of the first scenes in the previous snip (https://f95zone.to/threads/race-of-life-ep-3-2-extra-underground-studio.130096/post-15654027), as it wasn't part of the original conversation but is more relevant here.

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And then another scene when they are driving to the WUI, it he has no reply to her comments
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Then on the dinner date with Allie, he admits to letting them down and that he won't anymore.
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Definitely makes it harder to discuss a topic where it seems on the Hate route, it's Allie's fault and on the Reconciliatory route (for lack of better name), it's MC's fault.
I mean both can be true.

At one point in time they were great together, they got married and then the love waned, they stopped communicating and MC FAFO.
 

cooldevo

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I mean both can be true.

At one point in time they were great together, they got married and then the love waned, they stopped communicating and MC FAFO.
I'm sure that's likely what happened, and I don't disagree. Perhaps, my point was more that one side takes more responsibility for the failings depending on the path you take. That skews things a lot:
  • MC takes the fault, blame, and even admits to it on the reconciliatory route.
  • Allie takes the blame and doesn't deny it on the hate route.
As I never took the hate route, I had a very one-sided perspective based on what the MC said and admitted to. Whereas others that took only the Hate route, would have the opposite because of what was said there. And neither really reconciles fully. Sure they were both at fault, but each takes the blame very differently. Just makes it a bit more confusing to discuss as now you have to disclaim a perspective based on what route was taken.

I think that was part of what led to some of the early heated exchanges because we were looking at it from very different story angles.
 
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