I agree by alot, I don't understand why people still give money to him. He doesn't do anything. But a reason why he might not make updates anymore, could be because of people in here pirating his game
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I doubt that, plenty of other projects that get continued updates get passed around like a cheap whore and don't tend to stop for that. When they do fall it's usually for many other reasons like lack of interest, rl complications, change in employment, etc. That could be part of the reason, but I'd be shocked if that were even the main reason.
So, you think he can ditch his customers who pay him to work on the game because some completely unrelated people got it for free?
I'm just saying that it MIGHT be a reason. There's probably a lot of reasons why he's not updating it, but maybe he just gave up when he saw his game here for free. Even if he makes an update that prevents people from playing the game without a code or something, people will crack it, like all the other patreon games here.
The game has got a lot of messy code and needs a massive rewrite. I suspect that he coded himself into a corner that he cannot get out of and doesn't know how to add multiplayer without breaking everything else.
None of this is relevant when he has paying customers on Patreon who didn't get the work they paid for done. Of course it may be the reason but then he shouldn't have started a for-profit software project in the first place. I doubt it's his first day on the Internet and he was oblivious to the ubiquitous pirating.
Wasting development time and money on implementing a DRM would be another reason to request a refund. It doesn't benefit the game in any way and done incorrectly may even harm the paying customers.
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They are paying for the right to access the content behind the paywall for all tiers to the one they subscribed to. It's what
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are saying, and what they are getting. At no time they are customers, and in fact the said Terms of Use even explicitly state that they are paying Patreon, not directly the creator himself:Yes, I was wrong in calling them customers. Terms of Use also explicitly state:
Considering the deal is between Patreon and a patron they promise the following:
1. Access to the creator.
2. Merchandise.
3. Exclusivity (There's no way they can enforce this one).
4. Engagement with the creator.
In his latest posts he claims to be burnt out by the project and he started Spellbound to take a break from Rack 2. So, you're technically correct and fek did nothing wrong since the only thing creators are personally responsible for is engaging with the patrons. The "All about being a creator" paragraph confirms this.
But then why does Patreon do refunds when a creator doesn't deliver what they advertise?
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Still
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: "Our policy is No Refunds, though we will allow for some exceptions where refunds are granted in our sole discretion."They have the legal obligation to have those exceptions, in order to cover the cases where the payment processing goes wrong, and in case of fraudulent payment. But as it say, they are exceptions, not the rule.
Somebody ITT mentioned that they managed to get a refund when a creator didn't deliver what they advertise.
EDIT: Right here: https://f95zone.to/threads/rack-2-v8-fek.734/post-9281764
Technically if he was making posts OR answering comments he didn't violate the ToS.
A single person getting a refund one time does not represent patreon's overall stance. It says so right in the ToS.
People get really confused about this, you are not explicitly entitled to a specific product by paying for a patreon.
EDIT: LOL that said I don't want it to sound like I'm defending Fek here. I think this game is dead in the water and Fek really has been abusing the situation somewhat. However the accusations against various patreons, not just Fek, are incredibly common and always seem to be based in bad-faith entitlement attitudes.
So in this case it's justified to say 'I don't think anybody should be a patreon anymore', but it's not because this is somehow against the ToS.
People get really confused about this, you are not explicitly entitled to a specific product by paying for a patreon.
EDIT: LOL that said I don't want it to sound like I'm defending Fek here. I think this game is dead in the water and Fek really has been abusing the situation somewhat. However the accusations against various patreons, not just Fek, are incredibly common and always seem to be based in bad-faith entitlement attitudes.
So in this case it's justified to say 'I don't think anybody should be a patreon anymore', but it's not because this is somehow against the ToS.
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We don't know Patreon's overall stance because there's an unmentioned list of "exceptions". It may have "false advertising" or "not replying to a patron's comment" in it.
Thats not really how ToS works, if there is a discrete list they'd post it publically, you're not supposed to hide the rule sfrom people. The reason 'some exceptions at our discretion' exists is so they can give refunds to Karen's who complain loudly enough, there isn't some hidden list of things that are worth refunds.
Please tell me how to solve the problem with the fact that when creating a profile in the main menu game puts after the character name, "Albert" puts (2). It turns out "Albert(2)", although the previous profile with the name "Alber" was deleted. Tell me how to fix ?
I have a problem, game starts but its just black window with blue cube in left side of screne, how to fix it?
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How powerful is your computer and how long are you waiting? I got that screen for 10ish seconds before it went to a proper loading screen. Also which version of rack 2 do you think you have?
How to use the "Watersport" setting in Fetishes? What do you have to do to urinating on a test subject or on you?
And how the chemical works? If you create an object with it, you need to put it on the customer and all? And how to make the chemical injective?
And how the chemical works? If you create an object with it, you need to put it on the customer and all? And how to make the chemical injective?
please help me, I'm still trying to run it on w10, it didn't work to reinstall it, and I can't install some mod because it has to get to the main screen, which I can't do because of this screenMay be a corrupted file. I know some unity games keep save files on other parts of you drive so you have to do a god damn hide and seek for a full clean re-install (had the same problem with Battletech) can't remember where to look, sorry.
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In helping a different user I saw that C\users\<your user>\AppData\LocalLow\Fek\Rack 2 Furry Science\ and subfolders contain game related files including saved settings. Deleting the contents and then trying again should regenerate them if my logic holds up but the regeneration will likely also make the start up take longer than a normal one.