fek_

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I have kept an eye on this game for a long time, I really liked Rack 1. Can someone tell me how complete is this game? is it playable? Have somethings to do? Or is it still more concept than things to do?
I wouldn't spend any money in the game's current state. At this point, it's still basically just a glorified tech demo, with not much real gameplay. There's still a LOT of work to be done before it can actually be considered a playable game, or even an alpha build.
 
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Aykonn

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I wouldn't spend any money in the game's current state. At this point, it's still basically just a glorified tech demo, with not much real gameplay. There's still a LOT of work to be done before it can actually be considered a playable game, or even an alpha build.
Even Fek admits it (?)
 

fek_

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Even Fek admits it (?)
"Admit" is probably the wrong word. It's more like "Fek preaches it". I plaster it everywhere. Twitter. Patreon. The website. FurAffinity. But no matter where I say it, it just seems to go unnoticed or ignored, which leads to a lot of confusion and unwarranted frustration. So here it is, once again:

Rack 2 is still very early in development. It is not a finished game, and once it is, it will be free, like all my other completed games.

You should only spend money on this project if you want to help fund its development. If you're just here to play the game, wait for it to be finished/free.
 
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Chlorium

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I'm having the same issue as Friendly123, trying it on Windows10 x64, and only hexagonal background.
 

t727

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This game is popular, but myself and a few others in this thread doesn't even know how to play the game!
I've searched this thread to find instructions how to play the "orgasm/climax" mini game but turned up with just questions and no answers.
 

Futuredark

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Would you be so kind to explain how to do this?
First off, make sure to go through all the tutorial bits you can find, so you have an idea of how basic movement/controls/gameplay works.

Now, if you go up to the counter just across the bridge after you ride the elevator up, you can talk to an NPC there and request a test subject. (There are actually three different types, I believe only one of which is called a Test Subject in the game, I think the others are called Customer and Volunteer, but I'm not entirely sure I'm remembering exactly. The point is one pays you, one is free, one you pay.) I tend to try to find subjects whose kinks I enjoy playing with because... well they're the most fun to play with, and hopefully find one that'll pay me. Once you decide on one, they'll be put in Test Chamber #1. Ride the elevator down, hop out, turn right, and the first door (which I believe is the blue room) will have your subject. You can introduce yourself and make comments with a dialogue wheel, choose how you physically interact with the subject along the bottom, and then hold the mouse buttons and move them around over erogenous zone to build pleasure (I think only around the crotch to begin with... more may be available with other rack devices, and more should definitely be available later in development.) You'll have to figure out for yourself what motions and speed work well, and if you're still lost at this point, I really don't know what else to tell you to help.
 
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t727

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I really don't know what else to tell you to help.
It's a start thank you!
But what I have problems with is to make the clients/test subjects climax.
Should I move my mouse in circles, up and down, slow or fast?
I've tried different ways until my wrist finally gave up.
 

fek_

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It's a start thank you!
But what I have problems with is to make the clients/test subjects climax.
Should I move my mouse in circles, up and down, slow or fast?
I've tried different ways until my wrist finally gave up.
For most interactions, up and down is what gets the job done best. (In current builds, anyway. In future builds, I'm moving towards a much more forgiving system that accepts basically any movement as stimulation.)

I know the current UI is really obnoxious and hard to follow, but if you keep an eye on the right monitor, you'll see a ball that changes between a spiky star, a hexagon, and a smooth circle. This is an indicator that shows whether you're going too fast (spiky), too slow (smooth), or just right (hexagon).

That indicator is also surrounded by a little outline that changes from green to yellow to red as you stroke/fuck/stimulate/whatever the test subject. A red outline means the subject is worn out / desensitized, and you should take a short break or switch to a different interaction.

I want to stress that none of these systems are finished or balanced. Right now, it's much harder to achieve an orgasm than it will be in the final game.
 
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t727

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For most interactions, up and down is what gets the job done best. (In current builds, anyway. In future builds, I'm moving towards a much more forgiving system that accepts basically any movement as stimulation.)
This is what I wanted to know, thanks! :)

I know the current UI is really obnoxious and hard to follow, but if you keep an eye on the right monitor, you'll see a ball that changes between a spiky star, a hexagon, and a smooth circle. This is an indicator that shows whether you're going too fast (spiky), too slow (smooth), or just right (hexagon).

That indicator is also surrounded by a little outline that changes from green to yellow to red as you stroke/fuck/stimulate/whatever the test subject. A red outline means the subject is worn out / desensitized, and you should take a short break or switch to a different interaction.
This is really helpful!

I want to stress that none of these systems are finished or balanced. Right now, it's much harder to achieve an orgasm than it will be in the final game.
It's OK, I can fap with my left hand ;D
 

brandon922

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Not sure if it already covered, but on the mac when i try to start the game after inputing my name the game crashes. how to fix?
 

CyberChel

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Well i have the errror when loading game got only only haxadecimals, here's the log:

Exception: Error loading asset. Assimp returns: [Unable to open file "C:/Users/*****/AppData/LocalLow/Fek/Rack 2_ Furry Science\embellishments\ANTLER_0.dae".]
at TriLib.AssetLoader.LoadFromFile (System.String filename, TriLib.AssetLoaderOptions options, UnityEngine.GameObject wrapperGameObject) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RackCharacter.initSystem () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.initCharacterSystem () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.initGame () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
 

FuzzyFerret

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Well i have the errror when loading game got only only haxadecimals, here's the log:

Exception: Error loading asset. Assimp returns: [Unable to open file "C:/Users/*****/AppData/LocalLow/Fek/Rack 2_ Furry Science\embellishments\ANTLER_0.dae".]
at TriLib.AssetLoader.LoadFromFile (System.String filename, TriLib.AssetLoaderOptions options, UnityEngine.GameObject wrapperGameObject) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RackCharacter.initSystem () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.initCharacterSystem () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.initGame () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
for the bug : stuck in the rain screen : you need to go in appdata->locallow->fek->embellishments and delete what's inside, the game work but you won't have some things like hair, horn ect... it's a shame but at last it work
make sure you have make a Backup of the fek folder before, because the game WONT re-add the content inside "embellishments"

i'm no modder that the only way i found

if you ask why : the game can't load the embellishments proof here :

Exception: Error loading asset. Assimp returns: [Unable to open file "C:/Users/*****/AppData/LocalLow/Fek/Rack 2_ Furry Science\embellishments\ANTLER_0.dae".]
at TriLib.AssetLoader.LoadFromFile (System.String filename, TriLib.AssetLoaderOptions options, UnityEngine.GameObject wrapperGameObject) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at RackCharacter.initSystem () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.initCharacterSystem () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.initGame () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
(Filename: Line: -1)

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Game.initCharacterSystem () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.initGame () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
(Filename: Line: -1)

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object
at Game.initCharacterSystem () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.initGame () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
at Game.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

(and this message continue like 10-50 times)

hope it help
 

darkgryffon

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uh fairly new to the latest build and i feel silly, is the player's orgasm (male) automatic when in manual mode? and also is it just me or does the male characters orgasm not rise during automatic or semi auto when using well, your dick? dunno if that makes any sense the way i worded it
 

shadowdrake123

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"Admit" is probably the wrong word. It's more like "Fek preaches it". I plaster it everywhere. Twitter. Patreon. The website. FurAffinity. But no matter where I say it, it just seems to go unnoticed or ignored, which leads to a lot of confusion and unwarranted frustration. So here it is, once again:

Rack 2 is still very early in development. It is not a finished game, and once it is, it will be free, like all my other completed games.

You should only spend money on this project if you want to help fund its development. If you're just here to play the game, wait for it to be finished/free.
I cant tell if your the real fek or if your just some random person just impersonating as him...im so confused.
 

Aykonn

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I cant tell if your the real fek or if your just some random person just impersonating as him...im so confused.
Real Fek, fake Fek, anyway nothing is going to change the fact that the creator of Rack 2 doesn't invest as much time developing his own game as he should. I mean, the guy is overfunded LOL. Fek's Patreon monthly income is equal or greater to the annual income of some physicians in my country.
I once considered to fund him myself, glad I could read some reviews and a majority of negative opinions which persuaded me not to. It's a shame because I believe Fek is an amazing programmer, but he's proven to be lazy, imagine if now the early builds are so cool, what they could be if he actually invested the 10% of the time he spends playing DnD.
 

fek_

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I cant tell if your the real fek or if your just some random person just impersonating as him...im so confused.
Confirmation on twitter:


if he actually invested the 10% of the time he spends playing DnD.
I play D&D twice a week (if I'm lucky), for a grand total of 10 hours.

uh fairly new to the latest build and i feel silly, is the player's orgasm (male) automatic when in manual mode? and also is it just me or does the male characters orgasm not rise during automatic or semi auto when using well, your dick? dunno if that makes any sense the way i worded it
In the current builds, player stimulation is triggered by mouse movement, so the automatic modes are ineffective / less effective. This'll be fixed eventually.
 

Spartan502

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the fact that the creator of Rack 2 doesn't invest as much time developing his own game as he should.
I would love to see the proof of this "fact". I have been following his Trello for a long time now and as I can see updates are made every day with a lot of fixes and rework of the actual game's system.
Here is the link to his trello in case you don't believe me :
 

Aykonn

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Real Fek, fake Fek, anyway nothing is going to change the fact that the creator of Rack 2 doesn't invest as much time developing his own game as he should. I mean, the guy is overfunded LOL. Fek's Patreon monthly income is equal or greater to the annual income of some physicians in my country.
I would love to see the proof of this "fact". I have been following his Trello for a long time now and as I can see updates are made every day with a lot of fixes and rework of the actual game's system.
Here is the link to his trello in case you don't believe me :
Yeah, he can post anything he wants on Trello, and that won't make it true. Look, even if Fek were actually working really really really hard, and those latest updates were true.... this game is FAR from being finished and released, so..... consider that the project began in 2016, we are already finishing 2018. Has Rack 2 reached at least Beta status? In addition, every single build he's released has been full of glitches he didn't even care to fix. So if your counterargument is just a mere Trello link, check the facts beforehand so we can have a proper discussion. Even though there's nothing to argue about , Fek is just being lazy , that's a shared opinion by many of us.
Now.... am I going to be an irrational, obnoxious person and insult him? Or just disacknowledge his work till now? Of course not, as I stated before, I believe this game has great potential and even these early builds are better than many other already finished furry xxx games. The problem? Fek isn't doing this as a hobby, but he's being paid to develop Rack 2, and by a big group of funders. So yes, concluding, I think Rack 2, should be more advanced that it is.
 
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After reading through your post I can completely agree that it is taking an impossibly long time to finish, but to my knowledge and from what I have seen, Fek has been working on this project entirely by himself. Now sorry if i'm getting this wrong I really don't know much about game development, but I would think that making 3d models and bug fixing for a game like Rack 2, where almost the whole game is able to be customized in some way whether it be characters, the lab itself, subjects, or even the layout of the chambers would be incredibly difficult for even a group of 5 people working on a game. If what he said on the website is true and he really did work alone on the whole game, it is obvious that the game would have a lot of bugs and be taking a long time to make. With almost every release we see new bugs introduced and old ones fixed, so he does care at least to fix them when he notices them or when people bring it to his attention. You make a good point that a Trello link means nothing, but looking at past builds we can see most of the things he had posted on Trello have been completed and put in the game like it says they should be in the link the other user provided.

The last thing you say is that he is being paid to develop Rack 2 and he should work on making it more "advanced than it is", but it is already leagues above many of the games that have been funded through Patreon and other websites, and is being funded by people who want to see it completed. They may be paying for something that wont come out for quite some time, but to say Fek is being "lazy" with the game's recent updates is not true. You say the Trello updates mean nothing, then what about the things we CAN see him doing. If you go to his Patreon he gives status updates commonly. Though you may say these updates mean nothing and he could be just saying anything, the released builds again prove that he is constantly trying to improve the game to the best of his abilities.

This whole post doesn't mean I don't agree that the game is taking a long time to make, and I mean no disrespect towards you or what you believe, but I think you should at least think about what he would have to be going through working on a game as detailed and advanced as Rack 2 with little to no help, while also having to give updates to keep people's curiosity peaked as he works on a game that is still in early development stages. You asking him to make it more advanced is asking him to develop the chemical system further, better models and more choices for them, and adding more lab equipment. These are all things he was probably going to do any way, that you are asking him to develop now since he isn't making the game as a hobby and he is making it more as a job, even though all of his games would qualify as jobs under that reasoning, and Rack 2 is not the only reason he is being funded. Sorry for the short essay :/
You don't have to apologise because you are not being disrespectful at all, it's just that you have a different opinion. Ok now my counter argument is the following: Why doesn't Fek hire some help? Now, I know what he already wrote in furryscience, claiming he "works better alone". Ok that's perfect, I work better alone too, now, If I had to build a replica of the nervous system (I use this example because I'm currently studying in medicine) and I knew that someone were funding my costs I'd try to only focus on it and work as fast as I can. Now suppose that my replica was taking too long, let's say that I claim everyday on social media that I'm working as fast as I can and as hard as possible, I even upload some pictures of said replica every 4 , 3 o 2 months, but all you can see is that I've only built the brain or neocortex , haven't even starting manufacturing the nerves, nor the other parts of the encephalon. Well that'd be dissapointing right?

Now what I would do because I'm a responsible person, and I don't want to keep taking advantage of my funders or sponsors, well, if the job is too overwhelming I'd use some of my budget to hire some people that could help me finish earlier. That's what any responsible or decent person would do. Did Fek ever tell us what is he doing with the money? Do we really now what is he using the money for? What equipment does he need to work on Rack 2? If he's working alone, he doesn't really need more than 1 computer , design software , what else? Well he needs to survive of course so maintenance expenses I guess like food, water, clothes. Rack 2 is an overfunded project. Fek's monthly income is totally unjustified. If he were receiving 1000 a month to work on Rack 2 well... I'd say that is perfectly normal that the project is taking so long, but Fek is earning 23000 dollars a month that's 276000 dollars a year.

So back to my first argument. Fek has free time, money, he doesn't have to deal with people to finish Rack 2. Why is the game advancing so slow that in 3 years it hasn't even reached beta status?
I know Fek fans will defend him, but for just a second, lets be rational people, lets employ logic. If time, money and resources aren't a problem, what could possibly be the cause of any project to be taking so long?

Now I won't really continue with this argument, because this is not the reason why I visit f95zone or this thread. But my opinion is consolidated and unless Fek suddenly changes his work ethic, it'll remain the same. It's a shame, because I'm really looking forward to the day when Rack 2 will be finally finished and released, I'd even buy it. But I guess we'll have to wait for a really long time for that to happen, and that is just Fek's fault no one else's. And even if you disagree with me, you people know, very in the deep, that I'm telling the truth, just that you don't want to accept it.
 
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