VN Ren'Py Ravager [v5.1.9] [4MinuteWarning]

[oahuebydao]

Then this is the wrong game for you, lol

besides being defensive about your kinks can you just answer the question? have they added more humanoid content or not?

 

[YouShallNotLol]

facepalm

1. bite
2. chew
3. mouth empty, the meat being chewed is explicitly gone

what do you think happened between step 2 and 3 to the meat in the mouth that was being chewed?

Gore. Bloody gore happened. No sign of vore.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

besides being defensive about your kinks can you just answer the question? have they added more humanoid content or not?

No, Protagonist is a dragon and stays a dragon the whole game. He doesn't become humanoid ever.

 

[oahuebydao]

No, Protagonist is a dragon and stays a dragon the whole game. He doesn't become humanoid ever.

a damn shame, thanks for the response

 

[harem.king]

Gore. Bloody gore happened. No sign of vore.

That didn't answer the question.
What happened to the meat inside of malice's mouth that she was chewing between step 2 and 3.
Tell me where did that meat in malice's mouth go!
Did it teleport into outer space. Or did she swallow it.

 

[Sewyoba]

Mapping is the key word
In Darksouls you need to develop your skills and use them.
This game? there is zero skill, you just need to use a walkthrough.

You can look at the guides in DS and cheese all the bosses quite easily, without gitting gud.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

That didn't answer the question.
What happened to the meat inside of malice's mouth that she was chewing between step 2 and 3.
Tell me where did that meat in malice's mouth go!
Did it teleport into outer space. Or did she swallow it.

It turned into black sludge and evaporated. The text doesn't mention Malice swallowing anything, it even says that she brushes away any sludge left sticking to her body.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

I'll even copypaste the quote from the screenshot you posted earlier:
"Malice withdraws her fangs from Adeline's neck"
You're delusional if you think that is vore.
A dog biting you on the leg is vore too?

 

[Decathect]

Or you need to replay it so many times you write your own personal walkthrough.

There's a multitude of options and variations, of course you cant go through all of them in 1 go. I dont know what part of this surpises you. You arent meant to see everything in a game with this many choices, which actually matter. By their definition, making a choice, closes other venues. Which you are free to pursue in another playthrough. And thats a positive. Kinetic noves are effectively dead once they run their course. Variety is a good thing.

There is absolutely no chance that any person could take the "correct" path without a walkthrough on his first playthrough

?? In what way is that important. Are you doing a full f95 ironman no-reload run of every game and this one happened to ruin your streak? What even is the problem here. Everything I wrote, i discovered through - prepare for the shocker - exploring the game. A concept that is seemingly alien to you.

You are literally telling us that

No, what im actually telling you is that you learn the game by playing the game. A novel idea, I know.

Then you have all those

No, you dont, because you still have to let go of X to get Y or Z. There is not a single choice sequence which lets you have everything, like *you* want it. And just like in life, to succeed you need to leverage your strengths and shore up your weaknesses.

Just off the top of your head there are a dozen hard rules of what you must do, in an exact manner, to thread the needle.

The thread the needle aspect is only there if you absolutely refuse to let go of anything in the game. If you covet and hoard every single thing you can get, and wish to sacrifice nothing in return. An exceptionally greedy concept that runs against everything the game is meant to be.

And yet it is still possible to achieve.

You should be grateful that the game actually allows this. You *can* have your cake and eat it too, if you just put in the effort to discover how. Without a limitation like this one, the game is easily stompable, no contest.

So realistically, you are not supposed to play it as a game, you are supposed to use a walkthrough to turn this into a kinetic novel where all your choices are pre-made for you.

No, *your* lazyness in trying to justify using cheats, in order to avoid putting actual thought in, is not an inherent fault within the game. Its all you, buddy.

What happened to the meat inside of malice's mouth that she was chewing between step 2 and 3.
Tell me where did that meat in malice's mouth go!
Did it teleport into outer space.
Or did she swallow it.

Professional Clowns make $57000 a year and yet here you are doing it for free

 

[harem.king]

You can look at the guides in DS and cheese all the bosses quite easily, without gitting gud.

You can look at a guide for any game.
This does not address the fact that this game requires a guide.
Or so many replays to map it out that you write your own guide.

It turned into black sludge and evaporated. The text doesn't mention Malice swallowing anything, it even says that she brushes away any sludge left sticking to her body.

This is such a silly hill for you to die on.
You are so adamant about never losing an internet argument that you come up with the most ridiculous of explanations.

Right, the meat she was chewing evaporated from within her mouth because it did not explicitly say she swallowed it.
Yet it did not mention colored streams of gas coming out of her mouth either.
Nor any mention of her spitting out black sludge

Also at the time that body dropped from malice it was still recognizable enough as a body for "a neck" to be a thing, as well as a naked breast.
The evaporation happened later.

 

[harem.king]

I'll even copypaste the quote from the screenshot you posted earlier:
"Malice withdraws her fangs from Adeline's neck"

Cutting a sentence in half is very dishonest

"When at last Malice withdraws her fangs from Adeline's neck, it is because there is little neck remaining for them to find purchase upon"

 

[Cerneu]

This is such a silly hill for you to die on.
You are so adamant about never losing an internet argument that you come up with the most ridiculous of explanations.

Then be the better person and step away from this silly debate.

Otherwise you're just projecting.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

You can look at a guide for any game.
This does not address the fact that this game requires a guide.
Or so many replays to map it out that you write your own guide.

This is such a silly hill for you to die on.
You are so adamant about never losing an internet argument that you come up with the most ridiculous of explanations.

Right, the meat she was chewing evaporated from within her mouth because it did not explicitly say she swallowed it.
Yet it did not mention colored streams of gas coming out of her mouth either.

Also at the time that body dropped from malice it was still recognizable enough as a body for "a neck" to be a thing, as well as a naked breast.
The evaporation happened later.

Cutting a sentence in half is very dishonest

Bruh. At this point, you're not even arguing about vore. You're nitpicking at semantics.
There's no vore in that scene. Malice bites Adeline's neck --> Adeline dies and her body evaporates. Nothing more, nothing less.
Just take an L.

 

[harem.king]

Bruh. At this point, you're not even arguing about vore. You're nitpicking at semantics. Just take an L.

I am always willingly to admit when I am wrong.
But every word you speak just serves to further discredit your position.

You think that what transpired was
step 1: bite
step 2: chew
step 3: meat fully evaporates from within mouth without any mention of it (such as colored gas)
step 4: body drops to floor mostly intact. only missing the neck.
step 5: body turns to sludge
step 6: malice wipes sludge off clothes (but not from mouth)
step 7: sludge starts to evaporate into explicitly multicolored gas

You literally brought up additional points that only reinforce just how wrong you are.
And somehow imagine this makes you right.
To the point where you DEMAND that people "take the L"...

The fact you even view it in terms of "taking the L" shows how, to you, this is about winning and losing.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

I am always willingly to admit when I am wrong.
But every word you speak just serves to further discredit your position.

You think that what transpired was
step 1: bite
step 2: chew
step 3: meat fully evaporates from within mouth without any mention of it (such as colored gas)
step 4: body drops to floor mostly intact. only missing the neck.
step 5: body turns to sludge
step 6: malice wipes sludge off clothes (but not from mouth)
step 7: sludge starts to evaporate into explicitly multicolored gas

You literally brought up additional points that only reinforce just how wrong you are.
And somehow imagine this makes you right.
To the point where you DEMAND that people "take the L"...

The fact you even view it in terms of "taking the L" shows how, to you, this is about winning and losing.

Malice bites the neck, and then releases said neck after injecting her poison. A normal snake bite.

You're so hilariously delusional, somehow seeing that as vore. Fucking clown.

 

[Sewyoba]

You can look at a guide for any game.
This does not address the fact that this game requires a guide.
Or so many replays to map it out that you write your own guide.

That's a renpy game, dude. You can rollback at any time. And for the best ending (which you want) you have to work a little. Or play on power fantasy difficulty.

 

[HandtoGlandCombat]

Thank you for that academic debate on vore.

 

[harem.king]

That's a renpy game, dude. You can rollback at any time. And for the best ending (which you want) you have to work a little. Or play on power fantasy difficulty.

Yes, you can reload and use rollback to make mapping easier.
Although rollback is limited on how far back you can rollback. you need to reload instead, although within a choice occasionally rollback can help you map the sub option faster.
You can freely reload as many times as you want to map out the whole game though so this is academic.

But rollback does not magically poof away the problem.
The issue remains that this is a game that requires you to completely map it out, writing down every single possible gain for every single option in every single encounter. As well as the requirements for each subchoice in each such encounter.

Then once you have collected all that data, bust open a spreadsheet and path a perfect route through it.
The perfect route still includes you failing some things, just have to be failing unimportant things.
That is if Decathet was even being fully honest in his claims about he was able to path a perfect route that required zero waifu sacrifice (vore or sharing) and only failed checks that "don't matter"

Realistically though a new player won't map every single option and then bust out the spreadsheet.
You will start mapping it out and then the vast majority either look up the walkthrough and/or enable godmode instead.
I dare say I probably did more work mapping then most people in this thread before finally giving up as it was an utter waste of my time.

Therefore I am confident in saying this is a game that heavily depends on a walkthrough.
There should be a setting between godmode and hellmode. A normal mode if you would. Where most people could reasonably triumph without having to use a walkthrough / write their own walkthrough.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Yes, you can reload and use rollback to make mapping easier.
Although rollback is limited on how far back you can rollback. you need to reload instead, although within a choice occasionally rollback can help you map the sub option faster.
You can freely reload as many times as you want to map out the whole game though so this is academic.

But rollback does not magically poof away the problem.
The issue remains that this is a game that requires you to completely map it out, writing down every single possible gain for every single option in every single encounter. As well as the requirements for each subchoice in each such encounter.

Then once you have collected all that data, bust open a spreadsheet and path a perfect route through it.
The perfect route still includes you failing some things, just have to be failing unimportant things.
That is if Decathet was even being fully honest in his claims about he was able to path a perfect route that required zero waifu sacrifice (vore or sharing) and only failed checks that "don't matter"

Realistically though a new player won't map every single option and then bust out the spreadsheet.
You will start mapping it out and then the vast majority either look up the walkthrough and/or enable godmode instead.
I dare say I probably did more work mapping then most people in this thread before finally giving up as it was an utter waste of my time.

Therefore I am confident in saying this is a game that heavily depends on a walkthrough.
There should be a setting between godmode and hellmode. A normal mode if you would. Where most people could reasonably triumph without having to use a walkthrough / write their own walkthrough.

You're whining that a game is more complex than "Press X to win", and requires you to try picking different choices to see which are better than others.

 

[thebladeofwar]

You're whining that a game is more complex than "Press X to win", and requires you to try picking different choices to see which are better than others.

Very true. I have reran this game experimenting with which is the best scenario multiple times. However, due to the fact the game isn't complete I don't think there is a win everything option even in power fantasy mode. Granted you are very correct that this game might be more complex and sometimes you just can't win them all.

Not my cup of tea as I like trying to find the "perfect power fantasy story", but seems like it could be the case. I can't make the warlock my counsel member without sacrificing Val, which also means I can't help Darja. It's a catch 22 trade off right now. Problem is I like all the characters except the princess, so I only have one sacrifice to barter with. And with the outcome I found today as what happens with helping Darja, a new monster girl potential with the princess makes me not want to sacrifice her fully in the future too if I do end up helping Darja.

Another example, I can't befriend Naho without making her a sex slave pet. I mean, she seems to kind of dig it, but I might be misreading it.