VN Ren'Py Completed Rebirth [Ep.1-5 All in One] [LikesBlondes]

[Ayhsel]

Btw, where did the name Artemis for the vision girl come from? I probably missed it.

If I remember correctly, BigStuffedTiger used it once before anyone did it but it did not catch on at the moment. In the vampire thread created to discuss random topics not Rebirth related I used it once without being aware of that to avoid keep using Lilith (and because I really like Artemis as name as well as the concept of the Moon goddess) and Arigon liked it as it really make sense given Calisto and the idea that old greek gods were just all powerful old vampires.. After that we all kind of start using it.

But it is only something we established. She currently has no name in the game but I like to call her the Red Dream Beauty.

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

As Ayhsel has mentioned, I posted the theory here in December:

If Calisto is the high priestess of an ancient temple that just happens to be built near where the black-haired dream girl is buried, I have to wonder if the black-haired dream girl is the "goddess" that the temple was built to serve.

I can easily see the dreamgirl as the Greek "goddess "Artemis (really an obscenely powerful vampire pretending to be a goddess) whom the "nymph" Callisto served in Greek Myth. Calisto may well have started out as one of her priestesses, later to be made into her childe or grandchilde, only to get summoned to this location to build a new temple and to watch over her progenitor's sleep, and possibly to serve as her first meal when she fully awakens from torpor. (The latter would be a bad end for Calisto, but it would fit the spirit of the inspirational material for the game as ancient vampires have monstrous appetites, are ravenously hungry when they awaken, and mortal blood often no longer satisfies them.)

That would also make the MC the dreamgirl's grandchilde or great-grandchilde.

DA22 was the only one who liked it at the time , although Arigon did defend my theorizing a little later when I theorized that she was equivalent to a 4th gen methusalah in the inspirational material.

I don't think it's been established that Lilith even exists in this world yet. Dreamgirl is definitely a powerful methusalah (ie. an ancient slumbering vampire) at a minimum. Whether or not she rises to the level of an antedeluvian (ie. a clan founder) or even Lilith herself remains to be seen.

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In the material that inspired Rebirth, otherwise bored elder vampires nursed grudges against each other over the centuries, engaging their pawns in battles with the pawns of their opponents. Ultimately the elders themselves were controlled by sleeping methusalahs who manipulated them to oppose the elders doing the will of rival methusalahs in chess like battles, often referred to as the Jyhad, where the elders are the higher ranked pieces and the young vampires are lower ranked pieces.

Dreamgirl is most definitely a slumbering methusalah and probably has an enemy methusaleh she wants to defeat, and to continue using the chess analogy, she may see in the MC a pawn capable of becoming a queen at the right moment. I also wouldn't put it past Dreamgirl to have put the suggestion/impulse/whim in Calisto's head to make a childe, or even several children, and to see which survive to become useful pawns. Calisto may be a top shelf elder, but Dreamgirl is even older and more powerful yet, and Calisto is likely one of Dreamgirl's highest ranked chess pieces.

 

[Ayhsel]

As Ayhsel has mentioned, I posted the theory here in December:

https://f95zone.to/threads/rebirth-ep-2-up-8-likesblondes.34331/page-212#post-4777761

DA22 was the only one who liked it at the time , although Arigon did defend a little later.

I only saw your post after you pointed out to me. Otherwise I would have supported it then as I like the idea too, but well, you know me.. I am always in for beautiful mysterious powerful babes.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

If we eventually get a sex scene with Calisto and MC doesn't yell out "fuck me Mommy" that'll be such a missed opportunity.

 

[.N9]

Thank you so much for that!! You are extremely talented!

And I forgot welcome to you and to all new members of our friendly society of vamp fanatics. This is one of the nicest threads you can find here, so please enjoy our mad discussions.

Thanks for those kind words and warm welcome

Here are Calisto and i might as well add Astrid at this point i'll add them on my signature post as well

 

[Ayhsel]

Thanks for those kind words and warm welcome

Here are Calisto and i might as well add Astrid at this point i'll add them on my signature post as well

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I really like them! Calisto, in particular, looks amazing.

Just for future reference (so please don't think I am asking you to keep working!) By Red Dream Beauty I meant the brunette that appears in MC's dream, naked with her mouth covered in blood, as she currently has no name. Here in the forum we have decided to call her Artemis.

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

I only saw your post after you pointed out to me. Otherwise I would have supported it then as I like the idea too, but well, you know me.. I am always in for beautiful mysterious powerful babes.

True. And you do get credit for getting others to call her Artemis. Before that we all called her something different. I called her Dreamgirl when I wasn't theorizing that she was Artemis, others called her Mommy, yet others called her Red or even Lilith, you called her Red Dream Beauty. It got confusing because both Calisto and Artemis could be called both Red (Calisto has red hair, Artemis is always shown against a blood red background) and Mommy (Calisto is the MC's vampire mommy, but both the code and Artemis herself call Artemis mommy). Speaking of Red Dream Beauty...

Thanks for those kind words and warm welcome

Here are Calisto and i might as well add Astrid at this point i'll add them on my signature post as well

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These are awesome, and I especially love Calisto, but by Red Dream Beauty I think Ayhsel meant Artemis, ie. the waifsh ancient vampire brunette who always appears against a red background in the MC's dreams. Nevermind, Ayhsel has already chimed in.

Oh, and I should give DA22 credit for the first mention of Artemis in this thread back in November in the context that a vampire named Artemis might be Calisto's maker.

 

[.N9]

I really like them! Calisto, in particular, looks amazing.

Just for future reference (so please don't think I am asking you to keep working!) By Red Dream Beauty I meant the brunette that appears in MC's dream, naked with her mouth covered in blood, as she currently has no name. Here in the forum we have decided to call her Artemis.

Ohh you meant this girl ? my bad


Bad news tho, i couldn't make her at least not for now. My sigs theme is red and as you can see it will not go well together, even if i add a bunch of FX on this, in the end it will become so pixelated. Unless you want a really bright red sigs, i guess i could make that happen

 

[Ayhsel]

Ohh you meant this girl ? my bad

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Bad news tho, i couldn't make her at least not for now. My sigs theme is red and as you can see it will not go well together, even if i add a bunch of FX on this, in the end it will become so pixelated. Unless you want a really bright red sigs, i guess i could make that happen

Ohh you are right. We will have to wait until non red picture of her appears. I did not realize about that. Still, thank you so much!

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

There's a profile pic of Artemis without the red background in the game. I extracted it for you Ayhsel.

 

[Ayhsel]

There's a profile pic of Artemis without the red background in the game. I extracted it for you Ayhsel.

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Yes I think that is the conversation one, but does not seem good enough for something artistic as the signature. Oh well.. I know she will eventually appear. For now I will keep Sharon. Her expression and position is lovely for a signature!

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

No worries. Odds are we won't see a non-red pic of Artemis until she awakens, but I can wait patiently if you can.

BTW, I love that Zephir got a sig. She's a hottie who I'd love to see without the geisha makeup. Hopefully we'll eventually get the opportunity. Another minor character I wouldn't mind seeing in a sig is Malia/Kassandra. I love her face, but her outfits don't do anything for her figure.

 

[jish55]

I doubt vamp mommy is gonna be at the corination

I think she is because we're really close to the end of chapter 2, which means shit's about to get hella real.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

So Astrid was behind the hunters. Color me surprised...

Merrick is still missing and Dan is thinking about enthralling Carmen, all while Sharon's investiture is about to happen. Let's hope no shit happens during it.

 

[Deleted member 2412505]

So Astrid was behind the hunters. Color me surprised...

Merrick is still missing and Dan is thinking about enthralling Carmen, all while Sharon's investiture is about to happen. Let's hope no shit happens during it.

I bet my imaginary yatch that some crazy shit will happen.

 

[Deleted member 2412505]

So, MC is thinking about getting a second minion?

Most likely. Though I've seen is coming it from a mile away.

 

[Twisted peel]

Is calisto even going to be at the investiture? I thought she just said she would keep an eye on him and maybe visit him in scottstown.

I doubt she'll be there

 

[DA22]

I doubt she'll be there

Somehow I suspect you are right, though Fabian or Cindy might be there, my money would be on Fabian since he accompanied the prince's man last time so seems linked to the prince and he knows who MC is . Not sure Cindy does and if not, that is on purpose on C's part. We might get a message from Fabian though that C will be visiting in days, for what purpose though?

 

[underoath27]

Just played that last update, I really enjoyed, but yea, I guess it was a little bit short, but that's ok. It is really an awesome game.

 

[Arigon]

Lots of good stuff.
So in support of the name Artemis as Vision Girl's name, we have the historical mythology of the real world which had Calisto being tied to the major goddess Artemis. That gave the earlier theories a good deal of legitimacy. So some Greek mythology which may be every bit as influential as WoD materials. I am going to cover up what I am vomiting out under spoiler protection, in case anyone new comes in and might get scared off by the verbose nature of my post!

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