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1- Of course this isn't MY novel. I'm just sharing my opinion about it in a pirate site :ROFLMAO:

2- Porn or eroticism is part of this game, check Miri scene and others. I don't want porn just for the sake of it, It goes with the setting, dark vampire world.
This isn't MyLittlePony.

3- Mom vampfu isn't consistent at all. At first she was melancholic and bored with vampire politics but now she's a manipulative bitch like the rest of the elders.
So again, a sex scene would be good for that dark tone and atmosphere.

4- I said vampire politics are important in my first post but the game needs more than that to keep players engaged imo.
Momfu is portrayed exactly as she should be. Bored. Ennui... then sired spur of the moment and or on direction unconsciously from her sire Artemis and now more involved. That is perfect portrayal.
 
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This is exactly what the episode was about a setup for the investure of sharon and maybe a confrontation with Astrid
And even maybe with Marcius.
I think we may get a bit of both. Possibly some violence, as violence does occur even in high society amongst the Family. More than likely though, I think we will get some revelations, some foreshadow of moves to come, and a social humiliation/confrontation from or for Astrid and possibly her tool Marcius. IF the Southern Archon has either Andrew's wife or child in his retinue, I think there will be a complete shit show either set up or happening on the spot. Sharon is ultimately responsible for Andrew, so she might cause a rift with him by forbidding him to act, which might later be fixed by embracing him so that he can actually work towards a legitimate ending on the Archon... The other possibility I see as very strong is that the MC whispers both Sharon and Andrew to stand down and he himself takes a stand against the Southern Archon once his lineage is revealed. He is royalty outside the city political landscape. I mean that. He is fucking royalty. Directly tied to founders. More power in his blood than any but Calisto and maybe Fabian in attendance. (Unless Astrid is even lower generation than I think ((6-7th at the moment))). Calisto can whisper. She can manipulate. She can clear the room in a violent or non violent manner, and I am sure she is going to have a retinue with her that will include the MC against Sharon's wishes perhaps. We have to be respectful of our sire. At this point there is no reason to try and take her out, because catching her vulnerable is going to be next to impossible when she is on guard in a social time bomb that the investiture is bound to be.

I believe we are going to get our money's worth this month. I am definitely looking forward to it.
 

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I mean, I extremely doubt it will be the case, I am simply letting my imagination run wild... almost surely too wild. But again, I think Alexandra is quite a nice novel, so if you have not played it, you will most likely enjoy it.
I am playing Alexandra today. I downloaded last night. I am liking it so far and just took a break to check this board. I can give the story a thumbs up so far and I actually like the main character which like Rebirth, is so important. I like the MC in the games I am less critical of, and dislike strongly the MC in stories I am critical of....WVM, Anything by ICSTOR, BADIK, etc.
Love our MC in Rebirth though, and Alexandra has a dark feeling but I really like the way it is portrayed so far. I like dark feelings when appropriate. Not in college rom coms but most other settings if you know what you are getting into I am down for it. EXCEPT ACTING LESSONS... WTF
ok done.
 
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What people seem to forget is that we... the MC, were not the only ones to get the visions, the first was actually a Nosferatu.

If Vision girl (Blood Queen as I once called her) is an ancestor to the MC, and of the Nos that makes her ancient, like pre-carthage ancient, like one of the 2nd, or 3rd Gen, and if she was then she would be very thirsty.

What if Callisto and therefor the MC were of a literaly unknown 14th main clan, she doesnt have that stuck up Ventrue feel, or the artsy Toreador thing, it feels like they are 'Different'.

What if maybe that Nos that had visions had been fed a diluted vitae of Callisto or someone of that bloodline, thinned with other blood so they wouldnt gain the real power, as something of a test, when they went nuts after seeing the visions, whoever stopped the test, and Callisto considered a childe.
Not sure why I didn't comment on this sooner...
Frank has no blood lineage to the Artemis line as they are not Nos. Vampire DNA is one sided if you want to call it DNA, and it comes through the sire only. Now, Frank gobbling down a higher generation super great great grand kid of Artemis could well have given him access to the blood gifts and or a tie to Vision Girl Artemis. The reason his is digging and such might be very different than for our MC. For instance, if Frank was naughty and had a bad snack, VG might be punishing him. VG is not punishing her new favorite descendent... She is prepping us for whatever she has planned for us, which I am sure is going to be epic, whether she is a founder or the childe of a founder.
 
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I wish there was a way of thralling that she still keeps some cognitive function. So she knows she is a thrall just punish her some more
There is, and you can make her do some really degrading shit to make it all the sweeter. She is a vampire. She is more powerful than a mere mortal who gets blood tied. She will know. She will hate you. She will want to end you to end her thralldom. She would be a very dangerous toy. Play with her a bit, then drain her dry or stake her and leave her for the sun, but do not think you can toy with her for too long. She is too dangerous.
 
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I just messaged LikesBlondes on Patreon regarding Soul Rot. It might be too story related for them to answer, but I am a decent tier so I am thinking I will get an answer of some sort. Will keep y'all posted.
 
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I read through that Wiki before posting and I had and continue to have difficulty connecting it to the phrase "a Madea to the teeth". I doubt very much that Sharon cooked Astrid's children and served them up to Astrid for dinner without Astrid realizing it.



At least it would make sense in that context because Tyler Perry's Madea apparently hits someone in the teeth and knocks their teeth out.



Me too. The best I can come up with is that a "Madea to the teeth' is a huge and emotionally devastating kick in the teeth, like being told you just ate your beloved children for dinner by your embittered spouse who has secretly murdered them and cooked them up for you. But I have a very hard time imagining Sharon doing something like that to Astrid or anyone else for that matter.
I am thinking Gregor was simply repeating "something" he partially heard and basically was passing on a threat to Sharon, which is what I took from it. The ancient Medea myth does lend some strength to your theory of Astrid being Sharon's sire..... but I am still holding out for a Tzimisce!
 

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Arigon care to use multi-quotes?
Haven't seen much member here with 678 post one after another.;)
 
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I think we may get a bit of both. Possibly some violence, as violence does occur even in high society amongst the Family. More than likely though, I think we will get some revelations, some foreshadow of moves to come, and a social humiliation/confrontation from or for Astrid and possibly her tool Marcius. IF the Southern Archon has either Andrew's wife or child in his retinue, I think there will be a complete shit show either set up or happening on the spot. Sharon is ultimately responsible for Andrew, so she might cause a rift with him by forbidding him to act, which might later be fixed by embracing him so that he can actually work towards a legitimate ending on the Archon... The other possibility I see as very strong is that the MC whispers both Sharon and Andrew to stand down and he himself takes a stand against the Southern Archon once his lineage is revealed. He is royalty outside the city political landscape. I mean that. He is fucking royalty. Directly tied to founders. More power in his blood than any but Calisto and maybe Fabian in attendance. (Unless Astrid is even lower generation than I think ((6-7th at the moment))). Calisto can whisper. She can manipulate. She can clear the room in a violent or non violent manner, and I am sure she is going to have a retinue with her that will include the MC against Sharon's wishes perhaps. We have to be respectful of our sire. At this point there is no reason to try and take her out, because catching her vulnerable is going to be next to impossible when she is on guard in a social time bomb that the investiture is bound to be.

I believe we are going to get our money's worth this month. I am definitely looking forward to it.
I honestly can't wait even tho episode 3 is only like 2 months away. Now that they have captured both of the vampire hunters
i honestly Likesblondes expands the team that they both turn Gregor and Carmen so they have more control of ScottsTown
Imo it would be the safest option if a war is going to come. We need all the soldiers we can get.

There is, and you can make her do some really degrading shit to make it all the sweeter. She is a vampire. She is more powerful than a mere mortal who gets blood tied. She will know. She will hate you. She will want to end you to end her thralldom. She would be a very dangerous toy. Play with her a bit, then drain her dry or stake her and leave her for the sun, but do not think you can toy with her for too long. She is too dangerous.
Sorry Ayhsel but if i can turn Astrid in a living flesh light She is going to be one Standing silently in the corner and be useful being as a fixture in the house

She has never gotten over Burt Reynolds LOL
I was a lady and burt reynolds was my lover i probably wouldn't haven't gotten over him either

I am thinking Gregor was simply repeating "something" he partially heard and basically was passing on a threat to Sharon, which is what I took from it. The ancient Medea myth does lend some strength to your theory of Astrid being Sharon's sire..... but I am still holding out for a Tzimisce!
This could also be a spelling mistake and since we all believe here That the greek pantheon is very dominant in rebirth it also could be Medea the grand daughter of the greek god helios. who was god of the sun so we could also interpret that as a threat to Sharon. We gonna make you meet the sun
 
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I honestly can't wait even tho episode 3 is only like 2 months away. Now that they have captured both of the vampire hunters
i honestly Likesblondes expands the team that they both turn Gregor and Carmen so they have more control of ScottsTown
Imo it would be the safest option if a war is going to come. We need all the soldiers we can get.


Sorry Ayhsel but if i can turn Astrid in a living flesh light She is going to be one Standing silently in the corner and be useful being as a fixture in the house


I was a lady and burt reynolds was my lover i probably wouldn't haven't gotten over him either



This could also be a spelling mistake and since we all believe here That the greek pantheon is very dominant in rebirth it also could be Medea the grand daughter of the greek god helios. who was god of the sun so we could also interpret that as a threat to Sharon. We gonna make you meet the sun
1-Astrid if I get a choice is going to be naked, with a chain around her neck, serving food, nice good food, to my stable of blood dolls to satisfy Vampfu Momma when she comes to visit. I will fill her ass with the largest chunk of concrete I can pour in, and will sew her pussy shut. I will then make sure both of her tits have 50 pound weights piercing them..........Then I will get serious.
2- Gregor and Carmine would join my organization, I totally agree. To break the bond that Astrid has requires a Vaulderie or the death of Astrid. I will use the second method, after a suitable time. In the mean time I will be starving Gregor while he sits in a cage (for Astrid blood not food, he will get food.) If I actually can hold off killing Astrid for a year, then Gregor will be freed and I can bond him then. I don't give Astrid that kind of good odds though.
3- The Burt..... yeah hard to get over that charm, especially in his prime. I am not gay, but he was a fantastic example of Hollywood hunk.
 
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That son of a bitch! Oh well... mommy is mine now!

You gotta love some godly cat fight!

ohh yes... the way of the gods is to fuck your family... so f95 is, in the end, a religious site! :lepew:
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Good find
Thanks!

Medea to the teeth.... So, it could be that what he is saying is that it is total war between Astrid
(grrrrr BigStuffedTiger making me rethink)
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so Astrid may be saying, that she is pulling off the gloves and now it is death to her childe Sharon??!
That would totally mess with one of my major theories,
:devilish:

but it also makes things interesting in other ways.
:D

Time to go read more Greek and Norse history. I keep after Norse because Astrid is directly a figure from Norse mythology, whose name means Beautiful Goddess.... which she is a doll, no doubt....
More to follow I am sure.
Definitely!
 
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Another thing I throw in it. Why is Sharon so giggling happy about being made an Achron? Could it be that she like to have this title when her Sire (yes, I'm sold on this) Astrid didn't have a title at all even though she is much older than Sharon?
And now she thinks that with this she has the upper hand against her?
Sharon strikes me as the sort of girl who was always the teacher's pet in school. She was the good girl, the hyper responsible captain of the safety patrol who basked in the approval of her teachers and other authority figures. Now she feels she's being similarly rewarded by the authority figures in her new life as a vampire.

That said, it is possible that she feels she was promoted instead of "her sire" because of the superiority of her own views. So for Sharon this could be both vindication and validation.

The more I think about Sharon and Astrid/(Madea) I think we will have some serious fuck up to clear up soon.
Definitely. Astrid has been behaving recklessly. She's a bomb waiting to blow, and she seems reckless enough to blow herself up as long as she can take Sharon down with her. I'm sensing a great deal of bitterness here.

Astrid seems to know about the MC vampire lineage. The only other that now this or had some notion of this were Calisto, Calistos cohort and the feral nos until now.
Does she? Or does she just want to take Sharon's interesting new toy away and claim it for herself?

I'm not sure myself. But one tiny hint point in this direction.

I'm suprised you say that Astrid was not pure evil? I learn something new everyday. Astrid is a Astrid and the day I would believe Astrid was at some time in her life the same "pure" soul than Sharon, the day I would be convinced that humanity won't destroy themself.:ROFLMAO:
Me too! :ROFLMAO: My money is on Astrid hiding her nature while attempting to seduce Sharon.

That is the point. If Astrid is not somhow special, why does she feel that the MC's power and not any other than her.
In the inspirational material, Toreador are highly perceptive and have Auspex as one of their clan disciplines. The first dot is enhanced senses. The 3rd dot is aura reading. A sharp vampire can pick up a great deal from those 2 powers. Of course Tizimisce get Auspex as a clan discipline too. So as either a Toreador or a Tzimisce Astrid would get Auspex as a clan discipline.

Like this vampire elder that was their when Sharon and punished for the MC's wrongdoing.
Why is it only Astrid?
Like Sharon Astrid is also a teacher's pet of a sort, although unlike Sharon she's the kind of gal who got good grades by letting the teacher peak up her skirt and than black mailing him into doing as she commands.

Also the thing, why the MC was selected as the DJ at Calistos temple is still a mistery. I doubt that this is a mere coincidence. We know Cassandra, his boss is also a vampire. So, we have mere coincidence, Cassandra, Astrid, some of Calisto own cohort or a fourth party, who has selected him as the DJ.
To use the chess analogy, Artemis is one of the players, let's say she's playing White. Calisto is her most valuable piece, and thus the White Queen. Fabian is a White Knight. Cindy is a White Bishop. Artemis likely has other pieces, especially pawns, many of which likely aren't even in her clan. Malia/Cassandra may or may not be one of them, but -if- she is then she likely played a role in selecting and setting the MC up for the embrace.

We don't as yet know who is playing Black or who their most important pieces are. If the MC's creation wasn't purely a whim on Calisto's part, then it's a sure thing IMHO that Artemis engineered it. And if Artemis engineered the MC's making, then odds are that she didn't do it just because she wanted a sex toy. She's secretly grooming him to take on an important role in the chess game she's playing against her as yet undisclosed enemy. If Calisto attends the investiture, it's very likely that her opposite, whoever is taking on the role of the Black Queen, will also attend. Expect some real sparks then.

Astrid- I have, as has been noted, stated that Astrid is not what she appears to be.
I am trying to wrap my head around Astrid and Sharon being linked by blood. Not blood bonded since Sharon discussed that she "almost, once" was close but never totally thralled. BigStuffedTiger got me thinking about the relationship. I am still digging and thinking.
:D

I like the theory of Astrid showing the ropes to a younger Sharon, and they develop a relationship, which was one sided as Sharon was and is more pure and Astrid was simply attempting to mold another tool for her kit. My question for all of this is why is it seemingly normal in this city for vampires to be abandoned by their sires to be trained by others? That is definitely not kosher.
Nope. Of course this wouldn't be an issue if Sharon were Astrid's childe instead of simply her former ward.

Not sure why I didn't comment on this sooner...
Frank has no blood lineage to the Artemis line as they are not Nos. Vampire DNA is one sided if you want to call it DNA, and it comes through the sire only. Now, Frank gobbling down a higher generation super great great grand kid of Artemis could well have given him access to the blood gifts and or a tie to Vision Girl Artemis. The reason his is digging and such might be very different than for our MC. For instance, if Frank was naughty and had a bad snack, VG might be punishing him. VG is not punishing her new favorite descendent... She is prepping us for whatever she has planned for us, which I am sure is going to be epic, whether she is a founder or the childe of a founder.
Ancient vampires tend to be secretly buried underground. Cities are later built on top of their burial places. Sewers are then built under those cities, sewers that can come incredibly close to those secret burial places. Nosferatu tend to travel the sewers and a Nosferatu who explores a little too close to one of those buried ancient vampires may fall under their influence as ancient vampires tend to have the ability to extend their awareness beyond their slumbering bodies and mentally dominate those that come within range.

I honestly can't wait even tho episode 3 is only like 2 months away. Now that they have captured both of the vampire hunters
i honestly Likesblondes expands the team that they both turn Gregor and Carmen so they have more control of ScottsTown
Imo it would be the safest option if a war is going to come. We need all the soldiers we can get.
Uggh, Gregor can't fight his way out of a wet paper bag. The thought of turning him and becoming responsible for his training makes me want to vomit. He'd just make us look really, really bad as he'd set a record for dying quickly in his first battle. The way he's been presented screams "red shirt". So I'll be surprised if he's still alive by the end of Episode 3.

1-Astrid if I get a choice is going to be naked, with a chain around her neck, serving food, nice good food, to my stable of blood dolls to satisfy Vampfu Momma when she comes to visit. I will fill her ass with the largest chunk of concrete I can pour in, and will sew her pussy shut. I will then make sure both of her tits have 50 pound weights piercing them..........Then I will get serious.
:ROFLMAO: Well you know what they say about sticking your dick in crazy...
 
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Definitely. Astrid has been behaving recklessly. She's a bomb waiting to blow, and she seems reckless enough to blow herself up as long as she can take Sharon down with her. I'm sensing a great deal of bitterness here.
This is a spot on analysis of Astrid. She's so eager and reckless to try to takedown Sharon that she's even going as far as to break one their biggest no-no's of presenting humans with their existence with the whole hunter informant debacle. She's most definitely very bitter. Proof of this is her wanting to take MC from Sharon because she thought that would hurt her lol
 

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No reply from LikesBlondes on my question of Soul Rot.

Astrid, Astrid, Astrid.....
She is definitely playing for a different team than the vampire hierarchy of the city. Her willingness to break the trust (heh) of vampires by selling Sharon out to the Huntards is proof enough that she is not Team (insert name of the main city's Princeps).
The more I think, the less I think that Astrid is Sharon's Sire. Specifically, one line which several of us have had, not sure issue is the right word, but we have had something with, is when in the morgue, Sharon says "Her kind can look like that"-in this case it was not beautiful, or anything banal like that, it was that she could look Alive, even when she had been driven to mini torpor by what must have been a traumatic car wreck.

I think.... Sharon knows that Astrid can shapeshift. I think she knows that only certain clans can do that.... and I think she knows that Astrid is evil, up to no good, but is somehow constrained from absolutely outing her by something Astrid has on her. There have been hints of Sharon's misspent youth. There is also something that she has done that has caused her problems not only having to do with Andrew's family, but in her location at the start of the novel, she is in the shit house with Marcius, which no doubt Astrid is promoting.

I have really thought about Astrid and Sharon, and whether I believe they have a blood relation, or simply an intense one sided love affair, that almost resulted in a blood bond with Astrid. I believe the later to be true. If she were Astrid's childe I think she would actually know more than she apparently does. Astrid is reckless for sure, but she is knowledgeable and knows how to manipulate the game. Those traits would have been important in a potential childe, so I do not think Astrid would have left Sharon in such a state if she were her sire. At Sharon's age of vampire-ness, she would just barely be out from under Astrid's responsibility for her actions, so that incident with the southern Archon, and her shit with Marcius, would taint Astrid. They do not appear to have any effect on her, so I am calling out now, that Sharon is not Astrid's childe.

Back to my theory of Astrid being a Sabbat like agent, I am full steam ahead on that once again. Tzimisce type clan to boot, and still most likely one who hit Sharon in the woods. We know Astrid was there, from the hunter Gregor being snagged. We know she was involved in a plot to discredit Sharon, for personal reasons, as Sharon while well liked by the Nos, is not a particularly powerful vampire, prior to the group frying the Nos Feral. I think I am going to go one better on my theory now.... Y'all will think I am even crazier.....

So we know that the Greek Pantheon Vampires rule this city. Or Greco Roman Pantheon, as there appears to be a mix of naming conventions etc.
Astrid appears in both Greek and Norse mythology, but her appearance in Norse mythology actually makes more sense to me, as it could be a competing pantheon and she is not Team Olympus.
She is obviously obsessed with Sharon, either wanting to hurt her, or now possibly kill her. She knows that the Nos are friends of Sharon's,,, and those are butt ugly but very good friends to have. Knowledge is power, and these guys are lifted straight from the pages of VtM, so they are flat out information brokers. I think that Astrid got wind of an elder Nos, that was left guarding the Nos Hideout in Scottstown, and that the Nos in question had been down for some time, possibly in voluntary torpor, which elders do from time to time. I think she found out, that said elder had ties directly to Markus, and that she then went to Scottstown, found the Nos, and damaged her. Thus causing the spate of human killings, thus involving the city elders who needed to control that situation, and thus putting Markus in the crosshairs if it came to light that the Nos was not only Nos, but Markus' sire perhaps, or grandsire....This would weaken Markus, which would in turn deprive Sharon of some of her power (probably really her biggest single toy in her closet) which would then allow Astrid to more easily get at Sharon.

Yes, this is a reach.... but there is something in it that appeals to my sense of running a Vampire campaign. It is devious. It will be difficult to sort out... It fuels my thoughts that Astrid is more powerful than we think, not what she seems, Sharon knows some, maybe not all, but some, but can't reveal it, and that Astrid is a fricking Tzimisce spy of the Norse Pantheon.....Yes I have entirely too much time invested in thinking about this....And should do something productive with my life, but I have retired. I have had my kids. My wife is tolerant of my obsessions, and I frankly have too much time on my hands.... but there you go!
Peace!
 

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She's secretly grooming him to take on an important role in the chess game she's playing against her as yet undisclosed enemy. If Calisto attends the investiture, it's very likely that her opposite, whoever is taking on the role of the Black Queen, will also attend. Expect some real sparks then.
maybe the other faction wants to awaken Artemis, while the MC's role is to prevent that.
To use the chess analogy, Artemis is one of the players, let's say she's playing White. Calisto is her most valuable piece, and thus the White Queen. Fabian is a White Knight. Cindy is a White Bishop. Artemis likely has other pieces, especially pawns, many of which likely aren't even in her clan. Malia/Cassandra may or may not be one of them, but -if- she is then she likely played a role in selecting and setting the MC up for the embrace.
what's iteresting is that Cassandra in greek mythology was cursed by Apollo (Artemis's brother) to have visions no one beleieved. but let's not make her one of Calisto's entourage, even though it was at her club that MC bloomed as a dj. we could even see his time as a dj as his formative years in which he developed his charisma. and the fact that Malia never (supposedly) drank from MC is another thing to consider, her office is quite artsy, so if she had to have a preference it would be musicians whose patron deity in greek mythology was Apollo. so we circle back to her being connected to Apollo
 

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considering that Markus is strong enough not to fear the Archon how could Sharon ever hope to beat Markus sire or grand sire? it would seem he would be preferably if the feral NOS would be a preferred daughter? or she was turned at the same time so they where a couple and therefore "equally" strong generational type?
Sharon couldn't beat Markus' Sire, and she didn't. The team did. MC tanked it, and Andrew fried it. Sharon provided a temporary distraction, as did Laurie with a bullet through the brain. The Feral was pretty far up the food chain, probably easily powerful enough to have been Markus' Sire.
 
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