VN Ren'Py Completed Rebirth [Ep.1-5 All in One] [LikesBlondes]

[TheVengefulOne]

Why is it frustrating? Look at the tags. Very few are sexual. This is an adult novel, NOT a fap fest porn novel. Not trying to bust on you but vampires (as written in this story, and other places) are not that sexual, they are sensual and they use sex for specific purposes. The MC is still a bone hog because he has not been dead long enough. He will lose interest in sex for sex much sooner than later, and will use it for things like thralling or achieving a purpose. I understand that there will be a little more sex in this though, so no worries I guess. Just do not expect a ton of it. It won't have it.

Not trying to bust on me, yet why so aggressive? I said nothing bad about the game just expressed a personal opinion. Am I not allowed to have an opinion that you don't like?

I mean if you read carefully, you'll see that what I said is that even though it can be frustrating I still enjoy it very very much. Besides "fap fest porn novel" your words not mine, I do not enjoy those types of VN's at all, not a mindless drone. I love the story of this one.

Read carefully at what people say before you go full agro on them, yeah?

Now I could go further and tear your arguments apart and show you that you are wrong, both in the context of this VN's story and lore from other stuff, but I won't. You should just replay the game and see characters who are not the main characters behave.

 

[Warscared]

Not trying to bust on me, yet why so aggressive? I said nothing bad about the game just expressed a personal opinion. Am I not allowed to have an opinion that you don't like?

I mean if you read carefully, you'll see that what I said is that even though it can be frustrating I still enjoy it very very much. Besides "fap fest porn novel" your words not mine, I do not enjoy those types of VN's at all, not a mindless drone. I love the story of this one.

Read carefully at what people say before you go full agro on them, yeah?

Now I could go further and tear your arguments apart and show you that you are wrong, both in the context of this VN's story and lore from other stuff, but I won't. You should just replay the game and see characters who are not the main characters behave.

excuse him its just that you´re the 200th person asking! this thread used to have 450 pages and recently as been "cleaned" so you can imagine how many have made those questions! not personal towards you!

 

[TheVengefulOne]

excuse him its just that you´re the 200th person asking! this thread used to have 450 pages and recently as been "cleaned" so you can imagine how many have made those questions! not personal towards you!

Thanks. I didn't ask though just stated an opinion I had, that was all. Did not even attack the VN, I was praising it in fact.

Guess some people are really "passionate" about some things.

 

[Arigon]

Not trying to bust on me, yet why so aggressive? I said nothing bad about the game just expressed a personal opinion. Am I not allowed to have an opinion that you don't like?

I mean if you read carefully, you'll see that what I said is that even though it can be frustrating I still enjoy it very very much. Besides "fap fest porn novel" your words not mine, I do not enjoy those types of VN's at all, not a mindless drone. I love the story of this one.

Read carefully at what people say before you go full agro on them, yeah?

Now I could go further and tear your arguments apart and show you that you are wrong, both in the context of this VN's story and lore from other stuff, but I won't. You should just replay the game and see characters who are not the main characters behave.

Hey man,
sorry, as I re read what I said, I was overly aggressive. I didn't mean to do that. We just have so many people who have come in, made one comment and that comment is Why ain't there more fucking in this AVN?
I invite you of course to tear my comments apart, though at that point, I shall be happy to respond.
In any case, again, sorry for the aggression and shame on me. It's not like I do not have an aggressive side, go look at my old posts on BaDIK lol... but on here, yeah... sorry.

Peace

 

[gtz-god]

Supposedly, this is the last chapter. But I just don't see that happening, unless this new update is longer that the last ones. I'll let you know once I read it.

i cat believe there only 2 ch plan but the way the story going in the last update the mc can be seen as too gifted for most strong vampire so unless him add other monster like demon we close to a the ending maybe more then one but i will like more ch it a good game

 

[D3xzalias]

i cat believe there only 2 ch plan but the way the story going in the last update the mc can be seen as too gifted for most strong vampire so unless him add other monster like demon we close to a the ending maybe more then one but i will like more ch it a good game

No there a more chapters coming. maybe you understand wrong. But what we think is this is that there is 1 more episode of chapter 2 and then we go in to chapter 3

 

[Arigon]

No there a more chapters coming. maybe you understand wrong. But what we think is this is that there is 1 more episode of chapter 2 and then we go in to chapter 3

yes
Last episode, was almost the last episode of Chapter 2, but they still had significant amounts to do before entering chapter 3 which will presumably start either at the Investiture or shortly after, in Scottstown.
Just checked Patreon, nothing on the update as of this moment. Last post was that the Android port was live.

 

[Ayhsel]

@Ayhsel doesn't like the ideas I have about Astrid, and I can respect that, but I still have them.

It is true. I don't like it. And as I have explained, I think it would hurt the novel to go that way.

 

[Arigon]

It is true. I don't like it. And as I have explained, I think it would hurt the novel to go that way.

I actually don't think transformations of this nature would hurt the novel. Certainly it is timely and topical with trans issues in the news, but it isn't really even about the gender of Astrid. For me, I am trying to solve who Vision Girl is referring to as "Him"? Right now, we don't have an adversary which would be that much of a challenge unless we are talking like the as yet to be revealed Princeps, which may or may not be a male. We have Fabian, but they do not seem to be at cross purposes. Marcius, and the Southern Archon mentioned by Sharon, are her issues, not Vision Girl's concern, and frankly I think the MC is developing powers so quickly that it would not be that much of a fight for him to take an Archon like Marcius down. I would be more concerned with Markus or Lord Carius. Eloise is female at least seeming, and while she is a brutal fighter, if you focused on your prowess, something tells me she won't be that much of a challenge.

I think it is going to need to be something fairly big. It might not be the climactic moment of the novel, but certainly a building block. VG is building the MC as a weapon for something. What and who that is, is a mystery, and the first test or last test might be the "Him" she references. Likely the first though, something that will be a stepping stone of sorts, for her tool...meaning us...as the MC.

That is what makes Astrid so tantalizing. If one of the hottest models was eventually revealed to be a transformed male, it would be shocking, and by the point of that happening, no relationship is going to be happening. Actually, we are past the point of anything with Astrid at this point. She has made too many critical errors, and her time of reckoning may well be the climax of chapter 2, or beginning of chapter 3. There is too much evidence, for even our little Sharon to ignore... As I mentioned another time, she could be a crafty vampire, and use this to her advantage to "own" Astrid. This would be a coupe for sure, but, it would simply be an inevitable step in the destruction of Astrid. She would not allow Sharon to have a hold over her for long if at all, and would make yet another misstep.

So I don't think it would hurt the novel. On the contrary, I think it would show a much needed acceptance of trans sexuality and with a morphing entity, gender means very little. I had mentioned at one point, that if we think of the behind the scene MAJOR players as Ancient Gods of differing Pantheons, then Loki, of the Norse mythology, is all about changing. Changing faces, species, genders, and having monsters for children. This is almost a perfect match for a type of transformational vampire clan that has it's own magics, it's own powers, that make it masters of deception and trickery. THAT would be brilliant, in my own humble opinion, and would build up the novel, instead of doing damage to it at all!
Peace!

 

[Haast]

Thinking about it logically,

Astrid and Sharon were hot and heavy together, Astrid however started to want more power, and began hanging around with Marcius, that of-course would have lead to him saing to Astrid that he wanted Sharon, and trying to get her to help him "Get what he wanted, and he'd help her get what she wanted", this led to issues as that was the last thing Sharon would want, rather being dead, and the wedge between them grew.

Over time Astrid begins to blame Sharon for the way her unlife didn't take off, "It was all her fault...", and the differences grew, Astrid becoming even more jaded, Sharon deep down still remembered the good times, which is why she couldn't believe Astrid had fallen so far, and it takes the MC for her to truly see it.

That's just basing my thoughts on what we have seen in the VN, May be wrong, but it seems to flow.

Clan-wise (Making a point to not use clan names)
Marcius seems more like a criminal than a pure brawler, as do his peons. also Quote "the Archon is the Boss", not the Archon is like a lord or Politician, that reinforces the idea that hes more like a Mafia boss, he does later get called Lord but I don't get the feeling of being a noble. Id also imagine him as a flesh crafter, especially with his tongue which we see in one scene.
Sharon seems to be more self educated, than Noble and up herself, so Id put her as more of a mid-ground clan.
Malia/Kassandra I believe is one of an artsy clan, considering her links to music and clubs etc, or maybe the crazy clan, she does have her two identities.
Eloise the Hound is definitely of the snobby clan, but she has more traits that would link her to the more combat clan too.
Marcus and Merrick... obviously Nos but we all know that, its said enough in-game. I have a theory that the Feral Nos was actually just a normal member of the Nos Hideout, maybe a leader but my theory involves another group attacking them and her being the lone survivor, whatever happened there made her unable to feed and that lead her to go feral and escape, at which point the MC and Sharon were sent in, Merrick had been sent to find out what happened, and we know the rest, when he ran off after the fight, he returned to his little mission, maybe he discovered more that he'd be willing to let get out to non-Nos.
Carius seemed to be like the old crypt keeper clan that had once existed in the source material for some of the ideas
Zephir unsure what clan, but the whole Asian look made me think of the Asian type of vamp, completely different way of being a vamp, and yet she seemed like a normal vamp so maybe not.

The reference to the MC being one of Us, may simply mean one of the High clans, or even a middle clan, as Sharon was trying to say that he had a little something, his making the woman turn to him when Sharon had her focused on herself being a sign of power, which a low clan wouldn't have.

If what I noticed is right about the blood girl I believe she may be little more that a vision of the blood, the beast inside him, mixed with his subconcious, she might still be the ancient we all theorise but there is nothing proving either way.

 

[Kinvarus]

yes
Last episode, was almost the last episode of Chapter 2, but they still had significant amounts to do before entering chapter 3 which will presumably start either at the Investiture or shortly after, in Scottstown.
Just checked Patreon, nothing on the update as of this moment. Last post was that the Android port was live.

Pretty much this. What we do know is that the next update is going be Sharon's Investiture which is one big scene and a few smaller scenes so that's what I would assume will wrap it up and then Chapter 3 will be starting in Scottstown as they settle in as I doubt they'll do a time jump, although it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility if they jumped ahead a few months until after they were settled in. to keep the story going.

Beyond that to the person who said that we might be nearing the end, I believe LB said they're planning like 10 chapters and assuming each episode is 7 or 8 episodes we have quite the way to go before the end.

Same with the discussions about sex, LB has stated before that there won't be a lot of sex in the game, although there is the possibility of there being some, not a lot of it. Especially considering it's not a big thing for Vampire's as they get older, also as stated it requires a lot of blood in order for a male to get it up, so much that the Vamp would have to be pretty much full in order to do it and while the MC did is as more a proof of concept he did have to feed off like 2 people in order to do it.

One of the more interesting conversions that went on on the Pateron was whether or not the MC and Sharon should do the Blood Bond, considering they've each drank the other's blood at least once with some saying no, some saying yes it will be interesting to see what others think, assuming it hasn't already been discussed as I haven't read every page here.

Personally I'm all for it as long as it's not rushed and makes sense and not just done for the sake of it. The game doesn't really state how much time has passed since when the MC was first sired and put under Sharon's wing to the current time but blood bounding is a really serious thing so it's not something I imagine they would do within the span of a few months.

That being said it wouldn't surprise me if it happened at some point, not just because it's clear Sharon and the MC do have feelings for each other but also given the vision of Calisto standing behind Sharon while she sits on her throne ready to devour her that the MC had, it wouldn't surprise me if Calisto plans to use the MC against Sharon in the future and if the two are blood bound it would I imagine make that just a little bit harder considering blood bonds make you loyal to the person your bound too. While some might say that could be a cop out in terms of getting around that, it could be interesting to see if the "Elder blood" for lack of a better term that the MC's sire has is stronger than the power of a blood bond.

Finally I'd just like to say that while I'd always considered that the female blood vision girl is an ancient vampire possibly the head of whatever clan the MC is from to avoid using the inspiration source word for them, I do kinda like the idea that she's simply a vision of the blood/the inner beast although like Haast said there's no way to know for sure either way at the moment.

I just hope that at some point when the MC tells Sharon that he had yet another vision she actually believes him, after all he's already proven that they're real at least once with the kid being in the abandoned hospital....which he then found and as more experienced as she is to dimiss what the MC says simply because "She's never heard of it." doesn't mean it's not real, only that she hasn't heard of it. Even more so considering she herself said that they don't know what clan the MC is or what powers he might get.

Not it's entirely possible that he's from a really old clan that the common clans don't know about or simply that whatever clan he's a part of keeps that particular power a secret, much like how a certain clan in the inspired source that we all know it to be guarded their blood magic from the other clans. A clan of vampires who had visions could be both a powerful ally and dangerous foe, much like the crazies of the inspirational source world although they at least have the counter that since they're crazy their visions aren't always true, which so far hasn't been the case for the MC's visions.

 

[JJJ84]

Pretty much this. What we do know is that the next update is going be Sharon's Investiture which is one big scene and a few smaller scenes so that's what I would assume will wrap it up and then Chapter 3 will be starting in Scottstown as they settle in as I doubt they'll do a time jump, although it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility if they jumped ahead a few months until after they were settled in. to keep the story going.

Beyond that to the person who said that we might be nearing the end, I believe LB said they're planning like 10 chapters and assuming each episode is 7 or 8 episodes we have quite the way to go before the end.

Same with the discussions about sex, LB has stated before that there won't be a lot of sex in the game, although there is the possibility of there being some, not a lot of it. Especially considering it's not a big thing for Vampire's as they get older, also as stated it requires a lot of blood in order for a male to get it up, so much that the Vamp would have to be pretty much full in order to do it and while the MC did is as more a proof of concept he did have to feed off like 2 people in order to do it.

One of the more interesting conversions that went on on the Pateron was whether or not the MC and Sharon should do the Blood Bond, considering they've each drank the other's blood at least once with some saying no, some saying yes it will be interesting to see what others think, assuming it hasn't already been discussed as I haven't read every page here.

Personally I'm all for it as long as it's not rushed and makes sense and not just done for the sake of it. The game doesn't really state how much time has passed since when the MC was first sired and put under Sharon's wing to the current time but blood bounding is a really serious thing so it's not something I imagine they would do within the span of a few months.

That being said it wouldn't surprise me if it happened at some point, not just because it's clear Sharon and the MC do have feelings for each other but also given the vision of Calisto standing behind Sharon while she sits on her throne ready to devour her that the MC had, it wouldn't surprise me if Calisto plans to use the MC against Sharon in the future and if the two are blood bound it would I imagine make that just a little bit harder considering blood bonds make you loyal to the person your bound too. While some might say that could be a cop out in terms of getting around that, it could be interesting to see if the "Elder blood" for lack of a better term that the MC's sire has is stronger than the power of a blood bond.

Finally I'd just like to say that while I'd always considered that the female blood vision girl is an ancient vampire possibly the head of whatever clan the MC is from to avoid using the inspiration source word for them, I do kinda like the idea that she's simply a vision of the blood/the inner beast although like Haast said there's no way to know for sure either way at the moment.

I just hope that at some point when the MC tells Sharon that he had yet another vision she actually believes him, after all he's already proven that they're real at least once with the kid being in the abandoned hospital....which he then found and as more experienced as she is to dimiss what the MC says simply because "She's never heard of it." doesn't mean it's not real, only that she hasn't heard of it. Even more so considering she herself said that they don't know what clan the MC is or what powers he might get.

Not it's entirely possible that he's from a really old clan that the common clans don't know about or simply that whatever clan he's a part of keeps that particular power a secret, much like how a certain clan in the inspired source that we all know it to be guarded their blood magic from the other clans. A clan of vampires who had visions could be both a powerful ally and dangerous foe, much like the crazies of the inspirational source world although they at least have the counter that since they're crazy their visions aren't always true, which so far hasn't been the case for the MC's visions.

Oh good, it's a joy to hear that LB is planning 10 chapters for this story because I really love the story for this one and feel it would feel way too soon (to the point of being rushed) to see it end now.

I think I don't mind there being not many sex scenes, at least in terms of this game. I mean I think it was already a bit of telling sign when MC is told it is hard for vampires to get it up unless they feed. And when MC actually does it, I'd assume he'd be doing it with someone he loves, making the sex all that more special (for me it's been Sharon from day 1, and always will be Sharon).

I actually would be totally down with MC & Sharon going through the Blood Bond (and yes, that should take time, and not rushed as you said. Perhaps Chapter 6 or 7?), since I'm focusing on Sharon-centric path (though that doesn't mean my MC acts like a jerk towards Laurie & Carmen, I'll still probably choose to act good towards them towards choices regarding them but focusing all romance aspects on Sharon).
Though if this is implemented, I wonder if it will be optional (for those people who don't want to romance Sharon & just friend-zone her)? Hmmm.

Speaking of Callisto, I also wonder what her end goal is regarding MC after finding out that he's still alive. Removing Sharon from power (by having MC kill her) and having MC take over her position of power just seems to be first of many plans Callisto has in store for MC (is she expecting MC to climb the Vampire society's politics/power ladder since she would find his rise to the top entertaining, or is it something else?).

 

[Arigon]

Interesting points. I am trying hard to stay away from that which should not be named other than coming out and just saying what I had to about it. We had pages of clan speculations. Some folks think Astrid is Sharon's sire (I most strongly do not think this). Marcius I am in total agreement that the Mafia association that could have possibly been made somewhere else, which also applied to rebellious types. I think he had his tongue worked on by his girl/boy friend Astrid. ( )
Eloise is snobbish and also quite a warrior, which is quite kingly, and Sharon makes the statement that she and Eloise probably belong to the same clan as the MC (not true) but I do believe that the two of them are. Sharon has the three signature disciplines pretty much for sure. Marcius, who does not know domination, wants her "eyes" which could be literal or more likely her power. High, middle, low clan stuff from the latest crappy version of that which should not be named is not the feeling I get from inferences of clan. Sharon is sweet and clueless about the MC, but she comes from money, as exhibited by her obvious wealth and her ease in getting the home in Scottstown. So there is nothing about her that screams not this or that clan.
Astrid... I will leave alone for Ayhsel 's sake

I do not think that Sharon and MC should mutually bond or thrall. I think that both Vision Girl ( who is almost definitely an Ancient, probably Calisto’s sire And has Calisto and the Pagan church guard her) and Calisto have other plans. Calisto will kill Sharon in a heartbeat already, so that’s a non starter.

more later. Gotta cook dinner

 

[Ayhsel]

For me, I am trying to solve who Vision Girl is referring to as "Him"?

I know that is what you are doing. I told you before that while I think that from a literary point of view it would be huge shock and very well done, I still think it would not be good for the novel. First, from a patreon supporters point of view. Like it or not, many would take offense if they do such a thing.
While I personally would dislike it a lot, I would support that kind of thing in the novel just to fuck the players. But not all supporters would like it.
Translation: it does suck, but sometimes you do have to keep in mind who is your product directed.

More importantly, from a literary point of view I totally think that the idea of a totally bitch character is way better for the novel that simply a one fuck on players' expectations. At the end of the day, there are only too many times you can play that thing on the players. If in a novel, the writer keeps pulling those plot twist, the reader starts expecting them and the overall effect is totally diminished. So... if we are going to really fuck people's expectations, this seem in my opinion too soft. I would rather have something meaningful for characters that one is more emotionally involved with.
Long story short: that kind of pull need to be done with scarcity to remain efective.

I'm focusing on Sharon-centric path (though that doesn't mean my MC acts like a jerk towards Laurie & Carmen, I'll still probably choose to act good towards them towards choices regarding them but focusing all romance aspects on Sharon).

Myself, a total slut, on the contrary, is thinking about fucking every girl that awaken his dick. But not like the situation with Miri. I did not find her hot at all. Now: Artemis, Calisto, Sharon, Laurie, Carmen, Astrid, Cindy, the zephir, MC's previous boss... so many characters.

Some folks think Astrid is Sharon's sire (I most strongly do not think this)...
Eloise is snobbish and also quite a warrior, which is quite kingly, and Sharon makes the statement that she and Eloise probably belong to the same clan as the MC (not true) but I do believe that the two of them are. Sharon has the three signature disciplines pretty much for sure. Marcius, who does not know domination, wants her "eyes" which could be literal or more likely her power. High, middle, low clan stuff from the latest crappy version of that which should not be named is not the feeling I get from inferences of clan. Sharon is sweet and clueless about the MC, but she comes from money, as exhibited by her obvious wealth and her ease in getting the home in Scottstown. So there is nothing about her that screams not this or that clan.

I totally agree with this, I doubt Astrid is Sharon's sire. And I do believe the conversation in the morgue is evidence enough they are different clans.

Astrid... I will leave alone for @Ayhsel 's sake

Hahah my previous comments above aside, yeah.. Astrid's ass should be protected! if only to spank it very hard later.

I do not think that Sharon and MC should mutually bond or thrall. I think that both Vision Girl ( who is almost definitely an Ancient, probably Calisto’s sire And has Calisto and the Pagan church guard her) and Calisto have other plans. Calisto will kill Sharon in a heartbeat already, so that’s a non starter.

I hope that does not happen either. I want the possibility that all characters can betray each other. Keeps the story way more interesting.

 

[c3p0]

I know that is what you are doing. I told you before that while I think that from a literary point of view it would be huge shock and very well done, I still think it would not be good for the novel. Not from a literary point of view, but from a patreon supporters point of view. Like it or not, many would take offense if they do such a thing.
While I personally would dislike it a lot, I would support that kind of thing in the novel just to fuck the players. But not all supporters would like it.
Translation: it does suck, but sometimes you do have to keep in mind who is your product directed.

More importantly, I totally think that the idea of a totally bitch character is way better for the novel that simply a one fuck on players' expectations. At the end of the day, there are only too many times you can play that thing on the players. If in a novel, the writer keeps pulling those plot twist, the reader starts expecting them and the overall effect is totally diminish. So... if we are going to really fuck people's expectations, this seem in my opinion too soft. I would rather have something meaningful for characters that one is more emotionally involved with.
Long story short: that kind of pull need to be done with scarcity to remain efective.

I woudn't like that either. I think Arigon try to hard to link Astrid with the beast in the forest. I don't think Astrid and the beast are the same and I think the beast will have a role in the comming third episode.

Myself, a total slut, on the contrary, is thinking about fucking every girl that awaken his dick. But not like the situation with Miri. I did not find her hot at all. Now: Artemis, Calisto, Sharon, Laurie, Carmen, Astrid, Cindy, the zephir, MC's previous boss... so many characters.

What can I say.

I totally agree with this, I doubt Astrid is Sharon's sire. And I do believe the conversation in the morgue is evidence enough they are different clans.

Both are possible in my eyes, but the argument are against this, even though I was one of the people who put this theory out there. Yet I do believe that not only Sharon and Astrid were very close (what is certained), but that at some point the the fledgling Sharon was under Astrid supervision.

Hahah my previous comments above aside, yeah.. Astrid's ass should be protected.

No comment or won't I?

I hope that does not happen either. I want the possibility that all characters can betray each other. Keeps the story way more interesting.

I agree with Ayhsel here. I don't see it and it would lower the potential the story can have. If we are only one pawn in the big chess game without any freewill at all then it would become rather boring at least for me.

 

[Arigon]

I totally agree with the above. Thank you guys for mentioning chess pieces, as I think illustrating them this way could give us some interesting theory crafting.
As I see it right now, the chessboard is filling with tons of pieces in motion- to that point
Fabian- a bishop piece for VG via Calisto and perhaps unseen members of the clan to influence. Also his perceived close ties to the royalty of the Princep's court makes me know that Fabian is a powerful piece, and one which can be used to pinch and force some action.
Sharon- As of right now, she is more than a pawn, less than a bishop. I am going to go with pawn still though, as her role is a means to an end; the empowerment of the VG's primary growth piece, the MC.
Calisto-Queen of course, but a Queen that follow's her lord and master's bidding without even knowing it sometimes...:VG
VG- She is the King of this chess board of the city we are in.
Princep- a semi unknown, but putting in as a bishop at this point, ability to make game changing pinning choices.
Markus-with his knowledge, personal prowess, the ability to be a wrecking ball, he is a rook. He will likely have a huge part in the coming game being played for the political arena that Artemis aka Vision Girl is playing.
Marcius-glorified pawn.
Kassandra...... as yet to be determined. Going the theory that she is a mover and shaker in the city entertainment industry, she is definitely a piece with potential, so a pawn for now.
Eloise- for some reason, I think she, and the old Guard she represents will be potent, powerful and like Markus a wrecking ball. I think she is a rook waiting to make her play.
Astrid- she is a pawn of the other team, though if she is as powerful as I think she could be, and was attempting a gambit, that failed, she might be a bishop as well.
MC- he is a knight in the making. Able to force the game. Able to checkmate in the proper circumstances. I think he is definitely the new martial piece that the red Queen and King are pushing in this game. (Red, White, Black, whatever colors we use are unimportant, but it is vampire so Red )
Feral Nos- sadly for her, she was a pawn used to draw out other pieces. She succeeded in her sacrificial role.
Virgil- Another knight. Self Assured. Obviously old (Plubius) and powerful. He is definitely a martial piece that for the moment is looking innocuous.

I enjoyed that. Only Astrid strikes me as definitely the other team. There are more to be revealed for sure....I am excited.
Peace

 

[Kinvarus]

Yeah I don't think Astrid is Sharon's sire either, they were at the very least lovers I think we can all agree on that and that Astrid might very well have been the one Sharon said she almost did the blood bond with, then something happened that clearly changed that.

I'm more leaning towards Vision Girl being an Ancient Vampire, considering the inspiration being the thing that shall not be named we know that Ancient Vampires can commune with others of the clan through the blood so that would make sense.

As for Blood Bonding with Sharon as I already said I'm all for it giving the right time and circumstance but equally I feel like it should be an optional thing where you can choose to do it or not. Like Ayhsel said part of being a good writer is knowing your audience and it seems like a pretty even split when it comes to Sharon and blood bonding with her, some are all for it, some aren't and given they already done it each at least once without the player having a choice at least make the final time an optional one, that will probably please most people.

Calisto is definately an interesting character that's already had a few contradictions. 1st she says that she sired the MC on a whim simply because she was bored and wanted to see what would happen, be it either the MC being killed or what they would do. Yet on the opposite side she uses her power and influence to make Sharon the archon of Scottstown so that she can keep the MC character "safe" as she put it, hile simultaniously clearly planning for the MC to dethrone Sharon and assume control himself at some point, which sure as hell woud imply it was planned and not just something she "did on a whim." Perhaps to overthrow Marcius or something and having her own Childe in a positon of power that would be one less person to oppose her in whatever game she and/or her master is playing would certainly give her/them an advantage.

In terms of VN stories goes this is definately one of the best out there in my opinion, t here's enough guessing about whose who and what game are they playing to keep things interesting and wanting to know what's next.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

Calisto is definately an interesting character that's already had a few contradictions. 1st she says that she sired the MC on a whim simply because she was bored and wanted to see what would happen, be it either the MC being killed or what they would do. Yet on the opposite side she uses her power and influence to make Sharon the archon of Scottstown so that she can keep the MC character "safe" as she put it, hile simultaniously clearly planning for the MC to dethrone Sharon and assume control himself at some point, which sure as hell woud imply it was planned and not just something she "did on a whim." Perhaps to overthrow Marcius or something and having her own Childe in a positon of power that would be one less person to oppose her in whatever game she and/or her master is playing would certainly give her/them an advantage.

For starters the reason Calisto got Sharon Archon status was so that MC and her could get out from under Marcuis's thumb. From Calisto's perspective MC can't develop further or entertain her if he's constantly under the rule from some wanna be tyrant who also has it out for Sharon.

As for her assuming that MC would take advantage of Sharon, it's pretty obvious why. You don't live as long she does or any other elder in their world without prioritizing yourself and using others for your own benefit. For Calisto to hear MC tell her that he no intentions of just using Sharon comes as a slight shock to her.

She's already incredibly powerful (if MC's abilities and powers are anything to go by) and influential. She doesn't need any ally of hers in a position of power when she herself IS the power. We see cute little Cindy in Marcuis's throne room during the gangs return from Scottstown and Fabian walk in with Virgil who had baldie shitting bricks with his mere presence.

 

[Arigon]

For starters the reason Calisto got Sharon Archon status was so that MC and her could get out from under Marcuis's thumb. From Calisto's perspective MC can't develop further or entertain her if he's constantly under the rule from some wanna be tyrant who also has it out for Sharon.

As for her assuming that MC would take advantage of Sharon, it's pretty obvious why. You don't live as long she does or any other elder in their world without prioritizing yourself and using others for your own benefit. For Calisto to hear MC tell her that he no intentions of just using Sharon comes as a slight shock to her.

She's already incredibly powerful (if MC's abilities and powers are anything to go by) and influential. She doesn't need any ally of hers in a position of power when she herself IS the power. We see cute little Cindy in Marcuis's throne room during the gangs return from Scottstown and Fabian walk in with Virgil who had baldie shitting bricks with his mere presence.

Yeah, Calisto is the Power that is up and around now. I think Artemis/Vision Girl is rising, and of course, she is really pulling Calisto's strings as well, no matter how much Calisto may not want that to be. I think that the ennui she had, which has clearly faded with siring her kid, was part of Artemis' plan for her to sire another childe to use as a tool for whatever VG has in mind. I think it is clear that the MC needs the freedom to develop without Marcius hounding him, but I think Marcius is truly small potatoes here. Whatever is going on is bigger than the city. Calisto already demonstrated her ability to force the Princeps to do her bidding in making lowly Sharon an Archon. So what the real game is......? That is a good question.
I think the entertainment angle will soon be dispelled though. I think even Calisto might have fully been manipulated to embrace the MC by Artemis both to kick start Calisto, and to make a new weapon in their night wars.....Even if the MC does provide entertainment in the short term......
Have a good night all
Peace

 

[Raptus Puellae]

Fabian- a bishop piece for VG via Calisto and perhaps unseen members of the clan to influence. Also his perceived close ties to the royalty of the Princep's court makes me know that Fabian is a powerful piece, and one which can be used to pinch and force some action.

We see cute little Cindy in Marcuis's throne room during the gangs return from Scottstown and Fabian walk in with Virgil who had baldie shitting bricks with his mere presence.

this is something we are all underestimating... we see Cindy at the temple reminding elders that violence won't be tollerated. Later she shows up casually at Marcius court, while Fabian brings the Questor... why didn't she go with him? why would Calisto send both her most trusted minions? maybe Cindy was tasked with slaying the archon if Fabian was even a second too late. maybe in the end Marcius will be slain but not by MC. This would reveal Calisto's hand but without fully reveling MC's connections