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Calisto Sired MC just out of boredom when in the first episode She basicly say's you won't thank meI'm with Ayhsel when it comes the MC being sired simply because Calisto was bored. While on the one hand she hadn't sired a childe in years, it could be entirely possible that she created him simply because she was bored. Assuming she was telling the truth she said she really didn't care if he lived or died and was expecting Marcius to do just that, not necessarily put him under Sharon's care as punishement for her. In fact you could say he expected the MC to fail under her so that Sharon would be his, but that never happened.
We know that Calisto was keeping an eye on the MC during this time, so it's entirely possible that she did sire him out of boredom but when he wasn't killed and was actually helping Sharon do stuff she realised "Oh he's not useless, I could actually use him."
After all if her siring the MC was part of some plan, why would she not have taken the MC herself, why leave him to die or even be put under Sharon's care considering according to her Sharon is young and insignificant? Personally I think it makes more sense and a makes for a better story if she did sire him on a whim only to realise that he could be useful and thus her plans for him changed.
Not disagreeing that she said that. However, I think her sire Artemis made it happen, with Kassandra doing leg work to select the MC. I am thinking like a vampire at the moment. It is all about making others do what YOU want, while thinking it is what THEY want.Calisto Sired MC just out of boredom when in the first episode She basicly say's you won't thank me
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Calisto basicly say's if you keep me entertained i have more gifts for you when we meet her in the temple . And also she says i gave up the church once i can do the same for you. So with her saying that you are a puppet controlled by her and you better entertain the crowd
While I agree with the political statement, and the morals of Sharon, I think that she will embrace Andrew to save his life at some point, following some reveal and fight connected to Andrew's family.Doubt it. Sharon wants to keep her humanity intact as long as possibly, turning humans into vampires goes against it.
She thralled Andrew due the circunstances years ago, she has no more thralls or progeny after decades of being a vampire.
The MC can't turn Carmen either because he's too young and higher vampires won't let that fly under their radar.
She can't stay like she's now because their enemies know about her through the other hunter.
So enthrallment or death.
i 100% believe that Artemis send Calisto to get her some entertainmentNot disagreeing that she said that. However, I think her sire Artemis made it happen, with Kassandra doing leg work to select the MC. I am thinking like a vampire at the moment. It is all about making others do what YOU want, while thinking it is what THEY want.
i 100% believe that Artemis send Calisto to get her some entertainment
Thats why i said you are basically her puppet either Calisto's or Artemis
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Yes, but I think it is far more important than Calisto's entertainment.
MC is a weapon, and judging from the way the Princep's pic looks, he needs a beat down, so I am thinking that the Princep's defeat will be one of the first order's of business... If the Princep can not defeat a new fledgling, then it will be a good sign that our MC is being groomed to fight someone for Artemis, and or Calisto so that neither of them is in harm's way. That is the nature of vampire "business"
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LOLHuh?? what are you talking about? What would MC accomplish by fighting a princep other then his death and a heartbroken Sharon and Laurie?
I agree with you on it wouldn't happen this coming update. When Sharon gets made Archon she decides whats going to happen to Carmen. I highly doubt Likesblondes is going to fit that in this update And we have the Astrid issue also
I think she will be thralled. At the moment she is a breach to the masquerad and on top a vampire hunter - even if only in name.
So, I see her either dead, embraced or thralled. And for embraced we would need a higher ups OK - Sharon?
Don't know if her standing would allow us to embraced Carmin yet.
the MC beginning to make his own childe will be a massive problem! he is a bad sire to begin with! and 2nd considering his generation that would make anyone he turned more powerful then Sharon in as little as 5 months and as long as 7 years since they would be 1 to 2 generations above Sharon!
furthermore i bet that would be a break of all sort of rules for someone so young and that would turn most of the vampire world movers and shakers against him! you do not go around making vampires as strong as Marcius willy nilly when you can not control them!
he might get special dispensation to enthrall a few humans as a special gift but anything above that is allowing him to grow in power and create his own hive without anyone else getting nothing out of it!
its also a waste of resources he can always turn them later on! but if he can seduce them and make his thralls love him he has daywalkers to do his bidding! just like Sharon thrall is so use full because he is allowed to maintain his willpower to some extent, Sharon philosophy seems a weak philosophy for vampires... unless you understand that daywalkers can be more then just cattle and work as watch and attack dogs as long as they can maintain their freewill to act on their masters behalf instead of just being mindless drones!
Yeah, I see a higher chance of her being enthralled than embraced. But I would prefer the second for plot reasons. Jealous Laurie, not another thrall and more.. Although as I mentioned before, having MC make another of Calisto's powerful bloodline so soon, since unlikely. Maybe have Sharon turn her?
Doubt it. Sharon wants to keep her humanity intact as long as possibly, turning humans into vampires goes against it.
She thralled Andrew due the circunstances years ago, she has no more thralls or progeny after decades of being a vampire.
The MC can't turn Carmen either because he's too young and higher vampires won't let that fly under their radar.
She can't stay like she's now because their enemies know about her through the other hunter.
So enthrallment or death.
actually from a story-telling point of view, MC turning Carmen is the most logical and plausible course of actions...While I agree with the political statement, and the morals of Sharon, I think that she will embrace Andrew to save his life at some point, following some reveal and fight connected to Andrew's family.
I think that the MC is going to embrace Carmen, And I think he is going to get away with it. His lineage will protect him I believe.
9- I don't think Sharon turned Millie or whatever her name was... I think it was Millie... I think she just fed her some blood to fight MS and spaced it out enough to not Thrall her.actually from a story-telling point of view, MC turning Carmen is the most logical and plausible course of actions...
1) her conflict: at the start she hated vampires to the point of wanting to be bait for one, if she became one it would be subverting every fiber of hers. And it would open new possibilities. does Carmen accept her new unlife, preserves her humanity or just lets loose.
2)MC's age and generation: while MC lacks experience, he accomplished enough by fighting the feral and he knows enough people in high places to be considered a full vampire... sure it woul be like a season of "teenage dad" but he would somehow manage. he can always ask momma vamp to give him advice and for certain Sharon wouldn't abbandon him and offer her advice and guidance. it would be interestingn to see how he would "raise" Carmen. and how would MC get trainers for Carmen? where would he get the boons for it?
3) Carmen: she would be one generation lower than the MC and due to her personality she would develop differently than the MC.
4) MC's uniqueness: Making Carmen would IMHO make the MC's bloodline even more unique and interesting if his childe turned out to be also powerful. and Carmen might be someone not even VG predicted; a sidekick for the fight against "Him".
5) the elders: they are bored and some might be sadists (the princeps we see in the preview is probably one of the dabbing in necromancy with a painfull bite) so they might order MC to embrace Carmen to :
- see if the embrace even works (that would show that MC is above generation 15
- to study the MC's clan by observing the turning, how long it lasts, how painful it and how body changing it is.
-out of boredom to stir the pot and make it harder for Sharon with a newly turned vampire in her territory.
- to annoy Calisto, she may not appreciate her blood being passed so soon.
6) catfights: if she's turned, Carmen won't have to fear Sharon as much as she would do if she stayed a human and she could be more snarky and cruel in her verbal jabs.and it would be really funny if MC's sleeping arrangements were to be swifted because the bed is not big enough for three
7) feeding: Carmen looks the way she does, and that's definitely appealing, she could lure some creepy humans to MC for dinner when Sharon isn't available due to archon duties and can't use her eye thingy.
8) Sharon: as an archon, Sharon will be less available.so we won't get those sweet renders of waking up next to a vampire babe and someone gotta fill her shoes.. and while I wouldn't kick Astrid out of bed, she's not someone I would like to fall asleep next to. and this is where vamp Carmen comes into play.
9) Andrew's daughter: Sharon tried/ succeded in turning her when she was a young vampire. that means she would be a hypocrite for chastising MC if turning Carmen was to save her.
10) the cost of the embrace : Embracing takes a chunk of humanity, how do you reconcile that with Sharon's path and what are the implications of having mirisoul rot?
11) Carmen has 2 paths and 4 subpaths :
-the one where MC second guesses using her, I'll call it the romnce path
- the one where MC has no second thoughts and goes with it. I'll call it the slave path
- and each has the subpaths of treating her as food or being nice to her.
if we look at it, the romance path looks like the one where Carmen gets turned. the choice of treating her kindly might grant her loyalty to her maker. and if she was treated like food she could try to diablerize MC.
12) Laurie: if Carmen becomes another thrall it would make the relationship with Laurie a double. with the same steps and problems. on the other hand if Carmen became MC's childe it would allow the possibility of having some thralls that aren't love interests. leaving the "is it the blood or are the feelings genuine" gimmick all to Lurie..
13) Catfights : if Carmen becomes MC's childe, he won't be able to order her to stop the catfights. He can command Laurie to stop and that's enough
The MC fucked up things with the elders already with the Laurie incident. He got away thanks to Sharon and the Nos.actually from a story-telling point of view, MC turning Carmen is the most logical and plausible course of actions...
1) her conflict: at the start she hated vampires to the point of wanting to be bait for one, if she became one it would be subverting every fiber of hers. And it would open new possibilities. does Carmen accept her new unlife, preserves her humanity or just lets loose.
2)MC's age and generation: while MC lacks experience, he accomplished enough by fighting the feral and he knows enough people in high places to be considered a full vampire... sure it woul be like a season of "teenage dad" but he would somehow manage. he can always ask momma vamp to give him advice and for certain Sharon wouldn't abbandon him and offer her advice and guidance. it would be interestingn to see how he would "raise" Carmen. and how would MC get trainers for Carmen? where would he get the boons for it?
3) Carmen: she would be one generation lower than the MC and due to her personality she would develop differently than the MC.
4) MC's uniqueness: Making Carmen would IMHO make the MC's bloodline even more unique and interesting if his childe turned out to be also powerful. and Carmen might be someone not even VG predicted; a sidekick for the fight against "Him".
5) the elders: they are bored and some might be sadists (the princeps we see in the preview is probably one of the dabbing in necromancy with a painfull bite) so they might order MC to embrace Carmen to :
- see if the embrace even works (that would show that MC is above generation 15
- to study the MC's clan by observing the turning, how long it lasts, how painful it and how body changing it is.
-out of boredom to stir the pot and make it harder for Sharon with a newly turned vampire in her territory.
- to annoy Calisto, she may not appreciate her blood being passed so soon.
6) catfights: if she's turned, Carmen won't have to fear Sharon as much as she would do if she stayed a human and she could be more snarky and cruel in her verbal jabs.and it would be really funny if MC's sleeping arrangements were to be swifted because the bed is not big enough for three
7) feeding: Carmen looks the way she does, and that's definitely appealing, she could lure some creepy humans to MC for dinner when Sharon isn't available due to archon duties and can't use her eye thingy.
8) Sharon: as an archon, Sharon will be less available.so we won't get those sweet renders of waking up next to a vampire babe and someone gotta fill her shoes.. and while I wouldn't kick Astrid out of bed, she's not someone I would like to fall asleep next to. and this is where vamp Carmen comes into play.
9) Andrew's daughter: Sharon tried/ succeded in turning her when she was a young vampire. that means she would be a hypocrite for chastising MC if turning Carmen was to save her.
10) the cost of the embrace : Embracing takes a chunk of humanity, how do you reconcile that with Sharon's path and what are the implications of having mirisoul rot?
11) Carmen has 2 paths and 4 subpaths :
-the one where MC second guesses using her, I'll call it the romnce path
- the one where MC has no second thoughts and goes with it. I'll call it the slave path
- and each has the subpaths of treating her as food or being nice to her.
if we look at it, the romance path looks like the one where Carmen gets turned. the choice of treating her kindly might grant her loyalty to her maker. and if she was treated like food she could try to diablerize MC.
12) Laurie: if Carmen becomes another thrall it would make the relationship with Laurie a double. with the same steps and problems. on the other hand if Carmen became MC's childe it would allow the possibility of having some thralls that aren't love interests. leaving the "is it the blood or are the feelings genuine" gimmick all to Lurie..
13) Catfights : if Carmen becomes MC's childe, he won't be able to order her to stop the catfights. He can command Laurie to stop and that's enough
the Laurie accident has been delt with and that's history and ven the punshment task has been delt with. There are elders/princeps above Sharon, like the princeps from the last preview. He might order MC to turn Carmen just because he could. And while Carmen hates the vampires, she doesn't have particularly negative feelings towards the MC. As of Laurie, MC can control her, he just doesn't have full control over what she feels, and even her catfighting with Sharon stops when MC orders it. And precisely because of the accident with Laurie the vamps in power might not allow a breach of the masquerade to be solved the same way a second time, thus turning Carmen is the most logical choice. And since Carmen and Sharon don't really like eachother, MC is the less cruel choice for Carmen's sire.Turning someone without permission is punished with the death penalty.
Maybe the new Archon Sharon can grant permission in her turf, but Sharon won't let that happen even if our retard MC thinks is a good idea. Plus Carmen hate vampires and I doubt she will be fine with it.
Well that last might be all the reason the princeps needs to order Sharon to turn her, especially if he was less then thrilled when someone suggested to him to appoint Sharon as an Archon. Or are we gonna find out during investment that the princeps is actually Sharon's sire? Last is pure tinfoiling, but with all that has been kept secret from us until now, who knows. Somehow though since the topic of Sharon's sire has never been mentioned in game, I suspect it will be important. Just like Andrew's daughter may well play a role later.the Laurie accident has been delt with and that's history and ven the punshment task has been delt with. There are elders/princeps above Sharon, like the princeps from the last preview. He might order MC to turn Carmen just because he could. And while Carmen hates the vampires, she doesn't have particularly negative feelings towards the MC. As of Laurie, MC can control her, he just doesn't have full control over what she feels, and even her catfighting with Sharon stops when MC orders it. And precisely because of the accident with Laurie the vamps in power might not allow a breach of the masquerade to be solved the same way a second time, thus turning Carmen is the most logical choice. And since Carmen and Sharon don't really like eachother, MC is the less cruel choice for Carmen's sire.
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hold on a minute... at the risk of sounding like a Mike.... Sharon likes men in a suit, the princeps is wearing one... that means he might be Sharon's sire... the way the princeps looks at MC is the precie glare of a future father-in-law looking at his daughter's boyfriend...Well that last might be all the reason the princeps needs to order Sharon to turn her, especially if he was less then thrilled when someone suggested to him to appoint Sharon as an Archon. Or are we gonna find out during investment that the princeps is actually Sharon's sire? Last is pure tinfoiling, but with all that has been kept secret from us until now, who knows. Somehow though since the topic of Sharon's sire has never been mentioned in game, I suspect it will be important. Just like Andrew's daughter may well play a role later.