VN Ren'Py Rebirth [Ep.5 Update 13] [LikesBlondes]

[Spfjolietjake]

Or both It is no coincidence though that Blood Queen is saying she is MC's real mommy and also no coincidence she (can) reach out to him. We have no idea though yet what her game is or what/who she is exactly. She may not even be super powerful, but just a very naughty vamp that had a very powerful protector that made sure she was only locked away when she broke some rules instead of destroyed. Which might as well have been the one that turned MC, who knows.

I assumed she was the ancient vamp buried under the city that Merrick talks about his "crazy" co hort was digging to find

 

[Ragnar]

Well one thing about those visions,though it might not be lore coherent, for story purposes it could make sense if the dreamlady somehow interfered for whatever reason when MC was turned and that is also the reason why he survived. Did she not once said in a dream that the vampire who turned him was not his real Mommy?

I think she was talking about Sharon, because she was breast feeding him blood
Our real vampire mom is Redhead, Brunette can be our grandma or Lilith herself.

 

[DA22]

I think she was talking about Sharon, because she was breast feeding him blood
Our real vampire mom is Redhead, Brunette can be our grandma or Lilith herself.

Yeah it will be interesting to find out who she is and what her game is. She will likely be old, but she does not even have to be super powerful for her generation, she did get locked away after all. Though I indeed would not be surprised if she was Lilith or someone similar considering MC's background, power of his sire . Just that will mean that our MC will walk into way more powerful enemies in time as Archon likely. I can not imagine if she is Lilith or someone similar and those powerful enough to lock her away would let MC free her without opposition. They had a reason to lock her away after all and no guarantee Blood queen will not want to make them pay for that as best option.

 

[Ayhsel]

Very long answer post. I still think it is better than writing several posts.

Your right my writing could use work. That being said maybe the dev should have made it for a site that is not 18+ he probably would have made more money?
That being said he did make it for 18+ a decision he made so I don't think sexual content would hurt the story any if at all and as you your self agreed he would probably make more money and bring in more supporters at the end of the day this and many others this game is on is an adult site.
Games like reluctant archon good story great renders beautiful girls and sex that doesn't hurt the story and slowly getting supporters there are other games same thing,
I love this game and were it on a site that wasn't 18+ I would support and enjoy but I come here and many other 18+ sites like many many other people for porn so I would venture to say that a good story in a porn game is the plus not the other way around. Just my opinion.
I am glad that it's finally coming around I just hope it's actually with the mc and not just a dream?
On that note I was not happy with this update in the fact that all this progress we've made and she still doesn't believe or trust us?
We tell about the visions and were told not possible shut up???? Not cool from someone we've done nothing but damn near worship?
Last update I really thought we were starting to get somewhere with what happened at the abandon hospital and saving her talking about feelings then she treats us that way when were trying to be open and honest and learn from her but I guess we have to shut up???
Anyway I tried to write this better don't know I succeeded I may wait to download again for maybe two updates?
Again I truly believe that sexual content is not going to hurt the story and yes I agree 1st episode didn't need it but we're on second now and still haven't had any so we still have the customary hand jobs foot jobs oral to go thru before we get to anything good and that could have been implemented here and there already at least some of it and again it wouldn't have hurt the story? Just my opinion and thoughts.
I do support some games reluctant archon is one of them I wanted to support this but I'm on a porn site for porn there are other sites for non porn games so I think this is one of those games I might end up kicking the dev a few bucks after its complete still waiting to see how it goes?
The dev is very talented I just feel he could have maximized his earnings with a little bit of sexual content here and there just to keep getting supporters and keeping it interesting nudity can only go so far. The game is still excellent top 15 on my list but could be top 5 and who knows he my start throwing in really good sexual content now and that might make me rethink my stance and subscribe,
There have been a ton off people who have messaged me saying the same thing so if they are all telling the truth then he would end up with at least 10 subs so I'm not the only one when I wrote that yesterday I thought it was probably just a few of us but I there are more that love this game just want a bit more and believe the story would still be good! Thank you for your time

Again, adult game is not porn game. GTA is an adult game, The Evil Within is an adult game, none are porn games.

As for Reluctant Archon, I too love that game, I kinda have to ... i'm in it

Wait, what? what do you mean you are in it? Please tell more.

This update us gave another good reason why MC should not be the one to turn Carmen that being Fabians warning to MC. If Carmen does get turned it should be Sharon who does it.

I agree with this and has been saying it for a while. MC's lineage is too rare and should remain that.

Fabian did say that she'll shit when she finds out that MC is alive, that's not something someone who doesn't care would do.

You misread. I said Mommy does not care at all about politics. When you are soo strong and bore you are beyond that.

yet at the end of episode 1, Sharon suggested asking some scholars, so she's not entirely dismissing MC's claim.

I agree, but again, what you said does not contradict what I said at all.

you tell Astrid you have powers,next thing you know she' drains you dry.... and not in the fun way.

For the little it was shown, I don't think Astrid is such a simple villain character as you are suggesting.

don't you dare start the "there's no incest in this game' tirade, please....

I said it but I will repeat it here, I am going full vampire incest on Mommy.

Sharon has 3 good reasons to dismiss MC's claims as him talking smack...
1) if he was a lower generation, she shouldn't be able to control him when she told Laurie that they are dating, yet she did.
2)they are to make a blood bound and Sharon wants to be in control of herself, yet if MC had a lower genertion and more potent blood, his side of the bond would be stronger and to a degree he would have control over her,
3) Sharon is still a girl despite being an immortal vampiress, so here comes a guy she starts to like,she uses her powers, maybe enjoys his awe and admiration for what she's capable of, then all of a sudden this guy says he could do the same thing only better since he can do it telepathically. So a part of her could feel that he won't need her anymore and that scares her. Sure she's still a competent fighter (Eloise wouldn't accept to do her a favor if she was pathetic, and the creature in the woods would probably defeat a group of vampires) but if anyone paid attention, Sharon puts a bit of effort to impress (her wardrobe does have lots of clothes despite it being just a mission, she spends a bit of time getting ready etc)

I agree with all this but again. Here generation may not play in the same way. But totally agree with the Sharon part.

Well, it looks like MC's sire doesn't give a fuck about the MC if we believe what the Templar said, plus she isn't part of the Council it seems.
Sharon and our MC work under the rules of the Council of archons, so turning Carmen into a vampire without permission is a severe violation of said rules.

From what he said, she turned him and is unaware he survived. It is all very consistent with her acting out of boredom and living him to his demise. But given that he survive, Fabian also said that she would really be surprised on that. That is why she will take a care into the MC.

the cousin said that she will shit once she finds out that the MC is alive. So maybe in this case, since she is jaded by her long life she simply expected him to be killed or diablerized.

I am almost confident I read somewhere that most vamps die during their first year. So you got an abandoned super low generation vampire ready to be killed without understanding anything. It is no surprised she would not expect him to live.

That's just it that kinda proves its not a Discipline, Id say its his curse but then why did that Nos get the same ability, they are not of the same blood, which is why it has to be something external from his clan, and that dismisses it as his curse, which puts it back to a power level thing, and his first dream was after the blood had started changing his body, his generation was already what it is now, the fact his body hadn't finished its change was of no consequence, he was becoming a low gen vampire.

I suspect the Blood Queen(as i call her) lied about her being his Mommy, but its true she said that, and she might have altered him a little to cause the visions (Plot Device), If shes an Antidiluvian like we suspect, she probably said it mainly to get an easy meal, from the silly young but powerful childe, make him help release her, then grab him for an easy meal.

Well if the Blood Queen is the antedeluvian of Mom's line she likely would have no need to feed on MC to get more powerful. If she is something even more special who knows though, but if first then it could make sense she somehow influenced Mommy to turn MC. Only question then would be if he was a random or there was a reason he was chosen by the Blood Queen. It will not be his fame as a DJ, neither Mommy or Red Lady strike me as fans. (Maybe a lame reason, but one could be that somehow MC is a human descendant of the Blood Queen if she is a first or second gen and that is why she noticed MC being turned by one of her line and same went for the Nos, now that would mean if true at least two lines would descend from her).

Another question of course is why Blood Queen was locked away and not cannibalized in past if that was an option.

There are alternatives explanations. First if both nosferatu and MC's lineage could come from the red dream beauty, if she is a second generation vampire.
Also, if she is the first vampire, as suggested from the fact that her image is called mom in the files, then all vampires are her lineage.

eah it will be interesting to find out who she is and what her game is. She will likely be old, but she does not even have to be super powerful for her generation, she did get locked away after all. Though I indeed would not be surprised if she was Lilith or someone similar considering MC's background, power of his sire . Just that will mean that our MC will walk into way more powerful enemies in time as Archon likely. I can not imagine if she is Lilith or someone similar and those powerful enough to lock her away would let MC free her without opposition. They had a reason to lock her away after all and no guarantee Blood queen will not want to make them pay for that as best option.

You can be all that powerful and still be locked. People that lock you could be your direct childe, also very powerful, against your will. Also, old vampires tend to slumber. Maybe she went to sleep and her children betrayed her.

 

[DA22]

Not to get more powerful, no. Nevertheless ancient vampires can reach the point where human blood no longer sustains them, only vampire blood will do, and sometimes only the blood of their own descendants. The 4th gen Toreador methusaleh Helene made descendents just so she could dine on their blood. She summoned one of her 5th gen children to be present when she awakened just so she'd have a filling meal waiting for her when she awoke. That 5th gen vampire did not survive her mother's awakening.

This incidentally is why the awakening of the Antedeluvians (aka Gehenna) was so feared in VtM. Their hunger is vast and only the blood of their descendents will do.



First they're not so easy to find as they tend to be buried deep beneath the ground and their resting places are usually undocumented. Second, their minds aren't always fully asleep, and simply touching a torpid methusaleh or antedeluvian can lead to them dominating and/or forcing a blood bond on the lesser vampire who touched them as they have powers that go well beyond normal vampire limitations.

True, but if it is also true then that MC's line is kind of rare and Blood Queen needs him for food, she will need to keep him alive. Also MC turning Carmen would be a risky move for Carmen if people turned by that line tend to die.

 

[DA22]

Very long answer post. I still think it is better than writing several posts.


Again, adult game is not porn game. GTA is an adult game, The Evil Within is an adult game, none are porn games.

Wait, what? what do you mean you are in it? Please tell more.

I agree with this and has been saying it for a while. MC's lineage is too rare and should remain that.

You misread. I said Mommy does not care at all about politics. When you are soo strong and bore you are beyond that.

I agree, but again, what you said does not contradict what I said at all.

For the little it was shown, I don't think Astrid is such a simple villain character as you are suggesting.

I said it but I will repeat it here, I am going full vampire incest on Mommy.


I agree with all this but again, this may not be VTM rules. Here generation may not play in the same way. But totally agree with the Sharon part.


From what he said, she turned him and is unaware he survived. It is all very consistent with her acting out of boredom and living him to his demise. But given that he survive, Fabian also said that she would really be surprised on that. That is why she will take a care into the MC.


I am almost confident I read somewhere in VTM that most vamps die during their first year. So you got an abandoned super low generation vampire ready to be killed without understanding anything. It is no surprised she would not expect him to live.





There are alternatives explanations. First if both nosferatu and MC's lineage could come from the red dream beauty, if she is a second generation vampire in terms of VTM.
Also, if she is the first vampire, as suggested from the fact that her image is called mom in the files, then all vampires are her lineage.


You can be all that powerful and still be locked. People that lock you could be your direct childe, also very powerful, against your will. Also, old vampires tend to slumber. Maybe she went to sleep and her children betrayed her.

Most likely it will be something like you said and it was her own childe or possible brothers/sisters or her own creator if those existed, then again if it is MC's fate to wake her or that is Blood Queen's plan, our MC will likely walk into a few very powerful enemies and possibly just as powerful allies where both the MC and those allies/opponents may not know exactly on whose side they are.

 

[Ayhsel]

Most likely it will be something like you said and it was her own childe or possible brothers/sisters or her own creator if those existed, then again if it is MC's fate to wake her or that is Blood Queen's plan, our MC will likely walk into a few very powerful enemies and possibly just as powerful allies where both the MC and those allies/opponents may not know exactly on whose side they are.

I really doubt and strongly hope that MC was nobody's plan. I am super tired of stories in which everything is a damn conspiracy. Things do happen out of pure luck that end up having a huge butterfly effect. I really hope MC is just that. A mistake on Mommy that will flip the vampire world.

 

[DA22]

I really doubt and strongly hope that MC was nobody's plan. I am super tired of stories in which everything is a damn conspiracy. Things do happen out of pure luck that end up having a huge butterfly effect. I really hope MC is just that. A mistake on Mommy that will flip the vampire world.

Well story can go both ways, but Blood Queen was very quickly aware of MC as soon as he was created it seems, more as his official Mommy. Now that could have been a coincidence, she could be very aware of any created in that line though we knew children of that Mommy tend to die quickly and Blood Queen was disappointed a lot of times or it could be part of a long game someone was playing. We will likely find out in time.

Edit: It is for sure though that Blood Queen will play a part in the story of MC at some point for better or worse.

 

[Raziel_8]

There are alternatives explanations. First if both nosferatu and MC's lineage could come from the red dream beauty, if she is a second generation vampire in terms of VTM.
Also, if she is the first vampire, as suggested from the fact that her image is called mom in the files, then all vampires are her lineage.

Or the reason could be far more trivial.
We know the Nos live underground, that specific Nos could have simply got too close to the place where our dreamgirl 'sleeps' and she used her power on him, if she is a antediluvian that shouldn't be a problem for her.

 

[Kirito3948]

what kind of transformation is it

 

[Ayhsel]

what kind of transformation is it

Simplified, MC is turned into a vampire during the first 20 minutes of the story and the rest of the story is his life as a new vampire.

 

[Babalon]

interesting info i find in game files even about powers, i think next power we get is Potence it have two pictures of "fire fists" not used but other are used in game.

 

[RohanPrince]

I had 10 charisma after talking to the police lady, but didn't get the Whisper ability. How many points do I need to trigger that option?

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

The Walkthrough says a minimum charisma score of 10 is needed. If the walkthrough is wrong then I can't tell you where the cut-off is. I do know that a 15 definitely works.

 

[taginbert]

I had 10 charisma after talking to the police lady, but didn't get the Whisper ability. How many points do I need to trigger that option?

You need 11 Charisma to get the power.

 

[Demonius]

I had 10 charisma after talking to the police lady, but didn't get the Whisper ability. How many points do I need to trigger that option?

i had 11 charisma and got it

 

[Topper420]

So, I'm gonna throw out a deep left field theory. What if Carmen is Astrid's thrall? It would help explain how she resisted Sharon's power. Isn't Astrid's power somehow connected to seduction? Possibly why the MC is so taken by Carmen despite already having Sharon and Laurie squarely in his wheelhouse. (Though I do admit, there's always room for one more in the harem!)

The hunters were obvious amateurs, maybe Carmen was planted there to be caught.

 

[zh]

So, I'm gonna throw out a deep left field theory. What if Carmen is Astrid's thrall? It would help explain how she resisted Sharon's power. Isn't Astrid's power somehow connected to seduction? Possibly why the MC is so taken by her despite already having Sharon and Laurie squarely in his wheelhouse. (Though I do admit, there's always room for one more in the harem!)

The hunters were obvious amateurs, maybe Carmen was planted there to be caught.

Well, it's true that Carmen being able to resist Sharon's power is an enigma. But I don't think that Carmen is a thrall. I think the really hates vampires.
Some powerful vampire hunters have their own way to resist and protect themself from some vampire's powers (by using Faith, essentially). So it's reasonable to speculate that Carmen should be linked to some powerful vampire hunters.

 

[xDEEPx]

Exactly.

It's not that she doesn't care its just her viewing it as anyone she turns has a very slim chance at surviving the transformation due to her bloodline and that means its usually not worth her sticking around to see if it actually works.

Lord its all so interesting yet I probably gotta wait till end of 2021 to get full satisfaction ;'D

 

[Ayhsel]

So, I'm gonna throw out a deep left field theory. What if Carmen is Astrid's thrall? It would help explain how she resisted Sharon's power. Isn't Astrid's power somehow connected to seduction? Possibly why the MC is so taken by Carmen despite already having Sharon and Laurie squarely in his wheelhouse. (Though I do admit, there's always room for one more in the harem!)

The hunters were obvious amateurs, maybe Carmen was planted there to be caught.

In my opinion that is an unlikely scenario for the following reason. Carmen did not know how MC looked. If Astrid wanted to plant a thrall in MC's lair, to wait with other people in a bar to be picked by MC to be fed upon is just to complicated when she could just appear out of the blue in front of them and somehow get "captured", like attacking them.

Even it if was for the sake of acting and making them believe her, no need to go bring extra humans to the board for that. I am talking about the guy that was in Carmen's house. You could have done the same thing step by step without that guy. And I seriously don't think Astrid would just tolerate dealing with any human, unless she has an interest in them. But if that is the case, why let him die so stupidly?

But hey, with the info we have, all is posible.