VN Ren'Py Rebirth [Ep.5 Update 13] [LikesBlondes]

[Faptime]

Pffft, Sharon looks like Nosferatu when compared to Laurie.

 

[Ayhsel]

And yet you did not understand that my point was just where that new guy they are going to hire should work, renders vs animations, plot vs sex, etc
you did take the argument to money, but the dev already is going to hire someone, the point is where he should work on.... that was the main point of my argument.
and while a dance doesn't need repetitive movements, doesn't mean it should take priority over sex.

Yes I did. It is you the one that is ultimately failing to see the point. Just hiring another person does not imply that the budget is free. In my thought experiment I even went to explicit the assumption that nothing else could be improved upon so that the comparison was fair. In fact, your comparison to BADIK is totally out of the picture, precisely because of the amount of money BADIK already has to spend.
Having said that, you can argue that including sex animations today can increase revenue tomorrow, under the assumption that people care about that to the point in which affects their marginal contribution to pay. For a novel like this, so story focused, I doubt it.

You or me liking one thing more doesn't mean the other one is wrong, is like people hating sandbox and others liking more sandbox games because it can have some kind of gameplay or they feel they are more in control. Is a question of tastes. Many devs do polls because of things like this and I think is mostly what likesblondes will do, asking what people may want, you may be surprised what people may choose.

Funny that you brought asking questions about animating sex scenes, likesblondes did ask us about animations and the most common answer they prefer not to, taking all cost involved. You can read the answers in July 26th update.
But even with that result, dev can only chose to do what they want. Regardless of readers' opinion. Not saying it is the right or wrong thing to do, just that ultimately it is their prerrogative.

Have in mind that animations are not put in games just for such things like you say, they add flavor to a game that's for sure, in most adult games they are used for sex scenes because it caters to the game genre, in this game maybe the animations can be for different things, that depends on what the dev wants to make "adult / sexual" or more "story centered" game, an adult game will rather make animations in sex scenes while a more centered in the story will rather have scenes for other things like fights, or other visual things that will make the game look better. And sorry to say this but for me I do enjoy animated sex scenes far more than any static one, that is a question of taste but anything animated "good" will always be better than any static render for me any day.

You don't have to say sorry for your tastes. My comment was about my tastes, again. And an explanation on why essentially for me I take more out of those scenes.
I agree with your overall statement here that the underlying plot driver is what should set up the focus on to what to animate. But I thought it was clear we were talking about things similar to Rebirth. If we go and talk about Estate Dominate, which is extremely sex focused and great in a different way, animating the sex scenes does make sense. I would still prefer they animate the ballerina scenes, but I can understand focusing on the sex parts in that novel.

 

[Lord Soth]

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[MRG101]

i try to start over since i have 5 carisma but the game just load from another save

hehehehe theres no way to play episode 1 again there is ? someone can upload a save ?

Episode 1 and 2 are separated entities. Unless you´ve deleted, you can play Episode 1 again

 

[c3p0]

Funny that you brought asking questions about animating sex scenes, likesblondes did ask us about animations and the most common answer they prefer not to, taking all cost involved. You can read the answers in July 26th update.

To put a number behind this:

• Total comments: 17
  • No for sex animation: 10
  • Yes for sex animation: 0
  • Undecided or equal: 7

And to add my own opinion here as well.
Animations are nice, yet very often only half-baken and add very few to the game itself. Animations needs a lot lot of render to be fluid. So, if you have 10 s of animation you need around 100 renders or even more for it. And good renders already needs time. I don't do it and I'm sure a dev could provide some figures here.

But I whole agree with Ayhsel here. For this game in its current state I prefer the addition of rendes/story over one or two sex animations. Even if they would be animations I most likely would prefer that they would be used to add more atmosphere and this means for me that they weren't used for sex.

I would choice a Rebirth "comic book" over the Rebirth "game".
It would be a complete other discussion if this were a tripple-A game. But I don't believe that any of the studios out there would release a title hard pornographic content in it.

 

[Glooskabe]

I used the whispers and I totally agree that it was a rapey dick move once it all played out. I'm leaving it as is though, because it is going to be a learning moment for MC on how this power affects people.

Totally embracing the regret and self-loathing MC shows after the fact.

He now knows he CAN, but next time he'll have to consider if he SHOULD. He's learned that "I am not an animal" is for more than just blood.

Very well put!

 

[Ramen-]

We have Laurie, Carmen and Sharon they are well established characters and better options than Miri, an uninteresting newcomer.

They are all uninteresting, at least Miri has a real job, isn't a junkie and wants to achive more with her live. I just hope we get to fuck the killer albino bitch next.

Haven't fucked Miri tho, I keep it for the black landlady or albino whatever comes first.

 

[Carpe Stultus]

Its always entertaining as fuck to see people, on a pirate forum, demanding animations when they don't even have a single idea how much time and efford it takes to make a good animation, hell most of them can't even see the difference between a mediocre and a quality render.

 

[Raptus Puellae]

Laurie and we can feed her our blood, simply feeding on her and giving her our blood does not make a vamp, implying that at the very least there is more to it.

My assumption again would be you need to drain her.

that's why when she wasn;t feeling well, I started assuming that maybe involontarly MC started the embrace without finishing it, in that case, taking Laurie with you could have another advantage; Sharon could notice Laurie changing and she or MC would embrace Laurie (remember those SharonsavesLaurie variable points?). I know you keep saying it would reduce MC's uniqueness but immagine the situation when everyone thinks it's Sharon that turned Laurie but in reality it was MC's blood due to it being lower generation... Immagine the catfights...

Its always entertaining as fuck to see people, on a pirate forum, demanding animations when they don't even have a single idea how much time and efford it takes to make a good animation, hell most of them can't even see the difference between a mediocre and a quality render.

some people just wants to see pictures moving.. that's what porn is for.. but no one considered that Rebirth has all those bloodmist and dream girl moments showing up that would be really jarring during an animation

 

[RanchFTW]

To put a number behind this:

• Total comments: 17
  • No for sex animation: 10
  • Yes for sex animation: 0
  • Undecided or equal: 7

And to add my own opinion here as well.
Animations are nice, yet very often only half-baken and add very few to the game itself. Animations needs a lot lot of render to be fluid. So, if you have 10 s of animation you need around 100 renders or even more for it. And good renders already needs time. I don't do it and I'm sure a dev could provide some figures here.

But I whole agree with Ayhsel here. For this game in its current state I prefer the addition of rendes/story over one or two sex animations. Even if they would be animations I most likely would prefer that they would be used to add more atmosphere and this means for me that they weren't used for sex.

I would choice a Rebirth "comic book" over the Rebirth "game".
It would be a complete other discussion if this were a tripple-A game. But I don't believe that any of the studios out there would release a title hard pornographic content in it.

Yeah, I'll just add my voice to this as well. I voted no to animations on the Patreon post myself. Sure they'd be fine, but I care much more about the story. So, given the poll was done before Likesblondes hit 1500 a month, it was a matter of resource allocation in my mind. Extra time spent to get an animated sex scene, or forget that and progress the story more. The second is a no brainer to me. Truthfully, I don't even like animations in these games the vast majority of the time anyway. The only exceptions for me are BaDIK and Love of Magic.

 

[Raptus Puellae]

Love of Magic.

this !

 

[c3p0]

that's why when she wasn;t feeling well, I started assuming that maybe involontarly MC started the embrace without finishing it, in that case, taking Laurie with you could have another advantage; Sharon could notice Laurie changing and she or MC would embrace Laurie (remember those SharonsavesLaurie variable points?). I know you keep saying it would reduce MC's uniqueness but immagine the situation when everyone thinks it's Sharon that turned Laurie but in reality it was MC's blood due to it being lower generation... Immagine the catfights...

SharonsavesLaurie could also mean that Sharon would save Laurie in their next encounter with the shadown creature in the wood. Would make a lot of more sense to me, than used this variable to determinate if Sharon will turn Laurie (or Sharon allowed that Laurie will be turned). Otherwise the variable should rather be named SharonturneLaurie or something like this.

 

[Deleted member 15555]

In fact, your comparison to BADIK is totally out of the picture, precisely because of the amount of money BADIK already has to spend.

I'm not even going to argue anymore on the other points, but why the hell you put words on me that I never said to begin with? I never compared this game to BADIK, I compared how a game like "Badik" is much improved by having animations........to be even more brutally clear, I compared how animations can improve games like badik, I never compared this game to badik, we / At least I was talking about animations and the benefits of them and what I will prefer etc, perhaps in all that you did forget what we talked about but I never compared them

Games like Badik, for example, are good in all things, so yes a game like Badik without animation will have less quality in a "way" for me yet it will still be pretty good and I will enjoy it the same without them, but the animations does improve the game even more.

 

[oidex]

that's why when she wasn;t feeling well, I started assuming that maybe involontarly MC started the embrace without finishing it

Or maybe it's because MC woke her up in the middle of the night to drain her blood, and not just a few drops but an entire dick's worth!
But I can see that playing a lot of the games here has made you just as paranoid as me.

 

[Ragnar]

In VTM if you drink or eat something you vomit, your vampire can drink blood only.
In this episode the MC ate an omelete and drank wine without problems.
Didn't Sharon say something about the vomit thing before?

 

[c3p0]

In VTM if you drink or eat something you vomit, your vampire can drink blood only.
In this episode the MC ate an omelete and drank wine without problems.
Didn't Sharon say something about the vomit thing before?

Perhaps it is one of the MCs mysteriously powers? Or simple the dev didn't following the VTM lore to a T?

 

[Ayhsel]

I'm not even going to argue anymore on the other points, but why the hell you put words on me that I never said to begin with? I never compared this game to BADIK, I compared how a game like "Badik" is much improved by having animations........to be even more brutally clear, I compared how animations can improve games like badik, I never compared this game to badik, we / At least I was talking about animations and the benefits of them and what I will prefer etc, perhaps in all that you did forget what we talked about but I never compared them

My bad explaining. What I was mentioning is that for Badik, that you can see has the budget, there is very little in amount of other things you can spend the money. The comparison was not on the games, but on the way they can spend money. Take away all the animations from Badik and what could you do with that money and renders? Renders are already top tier, music, game elements.
I do have some problems with it, but not with the overall technical quality. That is without a doubt top tier, and in the end what can be improved is not something to be done by putting more resources in it. Rebirth does have a lot of technical things they can improve with that extra budget. In economic terms, it is a matter of marginal benefit.

That was what I meant by comparing those two, not the game themselves.

 

[Ragnar]

the dev didn't following the VTM lore to a T

That's what I though during the scene, but I don't remember if Sharon said something about it in EP1 during our training.

 

[Tserriednich'sNen]

In VTM if you drink or eat something you vomit, your vampire can drink blood only.
In this episode the MC ate an omelete and drank wine without problems.
Didn't Sharon say something about the vomit thing before?

This isn't VTM therefore likesblonde can take the story and lore in any direction he sees fit.

 

[-L-L-MJ-]

Honestly, I was a bit disappointed by this update, aside from it feeling short and rushed there are a few other things I felt let down by or maybe I'm more confused because I have no idea of the direction this is going in? I'm not sure...Anyway;

For those who missed this from dev patreon;

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