loikl

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Bad first impression, learning that the dev added cuckery because a single dude asked him to. How does anyone use this site for over a week without finding a thread with some understanding of whats going to piss people off and fuck over a game.
The developer tried to add optional content, people didn't like it and decided to stop doing it. It was a mistake, of course, but they've realized it and intend to fix it by not adding more in the future. It's best to leave it in the past and move on, otherwise, this is just attracting undesirable people.

For now it's the right thing to do, if in the future that promise is broken... well then that would probably be something pretty bad.
 

CallMeHuff

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I woke up to find a lot of new comments...


I think many people may have misunderstood the situation.
The NTR scene has absolutely no impact on the main story.
It only appears if you go to the basement, talk to a specific character, and then deliberately choose the “Go Out (NTR)” option.
If you don’t want to see it, you don’t have to—it’s basically nonexistent for anyone who chooses to avoid it.


I do understand and relate to a lot of the opinions being shared.
But the truth is, I’ve already added the NTR scene.
If I remove it now, I feel like it would just come off as insincere or even ridiculous.
I honestly feel stuck—no matter what I do, it feels like the wrong move.
Looking back, I definitely took the topic of NTR too lightly. I'm sorry for that.


At this point, I know trust has already been broken, and I’m not sure what else I can say.
But I will say this: I won’t be adding any more NTR content in the future.
I know many of you won’t believe that, and I understand why.
To be honest, I didn’t even want to make that scene in the first place—so maybe this is all for the best.


From now on, I just want to focus on creating the kind of content I personally enjoy, regardless of what supporters might say.
I’m aiming to finish the game around version 0.12, which will likely be in about two months.
For my next project, I’ve decided I absolutely won’t include any NTR content.
Your feedback has really stuck with me, and I’ll keep it in mind going forward.


I've gone back and forth on this so much that even I find it kind of ridiculous at this point...
Anyway, I'm sorry everyone.
I swear—no more fucking NTR.
Its been 5 months from my first comment on this game and back then I commented on sophia's husband fucking her and how no one wanted to see it. It was removed and everyone continued to enjoy the game. The game has many more followers since then and the addition of NTR was a terrible mistake, AGAIN, but everything else about this game is literally right up my alley and I think up almost all of our alleys (Harem Enjoyers). Thats why there was such outrage in the first place. A perfect game for Harem enjoyers and then betrayal. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Please for the love of god, stick to your word this time.
 

DoDoDoDODO316

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Its been 5 months from my first comment on this game and back then I commented on sophia's husband fucking her and how no one wanted to see it. It was removed and everyone continued to enjoy the game. The game has many more followers since then and the addition of NTR was a terrible mistake, AGAIN, but everything else about this game is literally right up my alley and I think up almost all of our alleys (Harem Enjoyers). Thats why there was such outrage in the first place. A perfect game for Harem enjoyers and then betrayal. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Please for the love of god, stick to your word this time.
I can almost guarantee he won't. Even if he tries to because within like 2 hours he 1.Apologized, said he understood but really just waffled on. 2. Said there'd be more content like it in the future. 3. Apologized again then promised their wouldn't be any more at all regardless of what his supporters say. 3.5 Repeated that but with more waffling
I understand that many of you dislike NTR.
That's why I included that scene only with a side female character who has no impact on the main story, and in that scene, the MC simply tries out the idea with a thought like, "Maybe I’ll explore this kind of kink?"


I know I previously said there wouldn't be any NTR, but one of my patrons specifically requested it. So I tried to create the scene in a way that wouldn’t bother those who dislike NTR as much as possible.
Some of you might still see this as an excuse, but the truth is, I felt like I wasn’t offering enough to my patrons, and that’s why I made that scene. Please don’t be too harsh.


The protagonist is still very much written as a dominant character. If you check out the Sophia scene in this latest update, I think that’ll make it clear.
Anyway, I’m sorry for the disappointment, and I hope you have a good day.
Hmm... I hadn’t really thought about it that way.
I did mention to patrons about a month ago that I was working on an NTR scene…


What I don’t really get is — it’s a hidden scene that only triggers if you specifically go find a side character and choose the NTR option. It’s basically like the scene doesn’t even exist unless you go looking for it.
My game still mainly focuses on netori and blackmail-style domination, so I’m honestly wondering… is this really something worth getting that angry about?


Am I just lacking empathy here?
To be honest, NTR really isn't my thing.
I don’t even understand what part of it is supposed to be arousing. So even while creating the scene, I kept thinking, “Is this really something people get off to?”


That said, some of my patrons requested that I include this type of content.
I figured that if it was just a side character and only accessible through a specific choice, it wouldn’t be a problem — so I went ahead and made it.


I do apologize for going back on my word after saying I wouldn’t include NTR.
But I also believe my patrons’ requests matter, which is why I added it.


Moving forward, I plan to continue adding more requested scenes from supporters — but always in a way that doesn’t affect the main storyline.
Everyone! I get it! I'm sorry for going back on my word.


Let me make it clear:
I have absolutely no intention of adding NTR to the main story or any of the main female characters.
The only NTR content I plan to include will involve completely unimportant side characters (like “Slave Girl #1”) who have no relevance to the story. Even then, it will only appear through optional choices.

If I’ve disappointed you, I truly apologize — and I promise there will be no more backtracking moving forward.
I woke up to find a lot of new comments...
I honestly feel stuck—no matter what I do, it feels like the wrong move.
Looking back, I definitely took the topic of NTR too lightly. I'm sorry for that.


At this point, I know trust has already been broken, and I’m not sure what else I can say.
But I will say this: I won’t be adding any more NTR content in the future

From now on, I just want to focus on creating the kind of content I personally enjoy, regardless of what supporters might say.
For my next project, I’ve decided I absolutely won’t include any NTR content.
Anyway, I'm sorry everyone.
I swear—no more fucking NTR.
4(I'm guessing). Apologize again.
I actually don't think that dude was being honest when he said he didn't think it'd be an issue. He said he was a fan of Agent 17 which means he's been around the forums a bit so he should know what happens when you bring the dreaded three letter tag(8 now, whatever) to a harem or incest game-god forbid one with both. And he definitely should've known after the whole Sophia debacle. I honestly think some NTR bro with a few hundred to spare made him an offer that sounded too good in the moment and he hoped he could scrape by without losing too much support/getting too much shit for it. In fairness some games with harem and incest can get by just fine with sliding in NTR but those games are generally bigger and even then it's a gamble. Trouble In Paradise almost ended hella early bc of the Claire scene but Syko used the reality stone and fixed it(But then he's actually a trustworhty dev so shrug).

Anyway I don't have a dog in this fight-I used to be totally anti-ntr but now as long as it's avoidable, doesn't mess with the flow of the path you're on and the game is decent who cares. My issue is it sounds like this guy doesn't seem consistent whatsoever which doesn't say great things about the game's future or his works after.

Genuinely hope he turns it around but pointed out the above because I'm doubtful he will.
 

CallMeHuff

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I can almost guarantee he won't. Even if he tries to because within like 2 hours he 1.Apologized, said he understood but really just waffled on. 2. Said there'd be more content like it in the future. 3. Apologized again then promised their wouldn't be any more at all regardless of what his supporters say. 3.5 Repeated that but with more waffling





4(I'm guessing). Apologize again.
I actually don't think that dude was being honest when he said he didn't think it'd be an issue. He said he was a fan of Agent 17 which means he's been around the forums a bit so he should know what happens when you bring the dreaded three letter tag(8 now, whatever) to a harem or incest game-god forbid one with both. And he definitely should've known after the whole Sophia debacle. I honestly think some NTR bro with a few hundred to spare made him an offer that sounded too good in the moment and he hoped he could scrape by without losing too much support/getting too much shit for it. In fairness some games with harem and incest can get by just fine with sliding in NTR but those games are generally bigger and even then it's a gamble. Trouble In Paradise almost ended hella early bc of the Claire scene but Syko used the reality stone and fixed it(But then he's actually a trustworhty dev so shrug).

Anyway I don't have a dog in this fight-I used to be totally anti-ntr but now as long as it's avoidable, doesn't mess with the flow of the path you're on and the game is decent who cares. My issue is it sounds like this guy doesn't seem consistent whatsoever which doesn't say great things about the game's future or his works after.

Genuinely hope he turns it around but pointed out the above because I'm doubtful he will.
Male Dom/Rape/Sexual Harassment/BDSM with no NTR is pretty rare to find in Harem games. It's one of the reasons why I want to give it a chance. Obviously my point was proven thats its almost impossible to find with this stunt he pulled. Guess only time will tell.
 

Mikototo

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Could really use other links than MEGA, its doesn't allow even at reduce rate the download after 5go and you have to wait 6hours . . .
Not a great pick if you go for a single link and your file is above that. . . .
 

Mommysbuttslut

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Could really use other links than MEGA, its doesn't allow even at reduce rate the download after 5go and you have to wait 6hours . . .
Not a great pick if you go for a single link and your file is above that. . . .
Just wait for the uploaders to get to it. Since this is the second time it's been uploaded today it's probably down a bit on the que.
 

Izarp

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I woke up to find a lot of new comments...


I think many people may have misunderstood the situation.
The NTR scene has absolutely no impact on the main story.
It only appears if you go to the basement, talk to a specific character, and then deliberately choose the “Go Out (NTR)” option.
If you don’t want to see it, you don’t have to—it’s basically nonexistent for anyone who chooses to avoid it.


I do understand and relate to a lot of the opinions being shared.
But the truth is, I’ve already added the NTR scene.
If I remove it now, I feel like it would just come off as insincere or even ridiculous.
I honestly feel stuck—no matter what I do, it feels like the wrong move.
Looking back, I definitely took the topic of NTR too lightly. I'm sorry for that.


At this point, I know trust has already been broken, and I’m not sure what else I can say.
But I will say this: I won’t be adding any more NTR content in the future.
I know many of you won’t believe that, and I understand why.
To be honest, I didn’t even want to make that scene in the first place—so maybe this is all for the best.


From now on, I just want to focus on creating the kind of content I personally enjoy, regardless of what supporters might say.
I’m aiming to finish the game around version 0.12, which will likely be in about two months.
For my next project, I’ve decided I absolutely won’t include any NTR content.
Your feedback has really stuck with me, and I’ll keep it in mind going forward.


I've gone back and forth on this so much that even I find it kind of ridiculous at this point...
Anyway, I'm sorry everyone.
I swear—no more fucking NTR.
ok bro, i think it's quite dignified to admit that you made a mistake and try to make things right. I saw your post on Patreon so the discussion about ntr will stop soon. Try to consider it a valuable experience for your career as a DEV and keep it cool. Keep up the good work
 

goulet1995

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I woke up to find a lot of new comments...


I think many people may have misunderstood the situation.
The NTR scene has absolutely no impact on the main story.
It only appears if you go to the basement, talk to a specific character, and then deliberately choose the “Go Out (NTR)” option.
If you don’t want to see it, you don’t have to—it’s basically nonexistent for anyone who chooses to avoid it.


I do understand and relate to a lot of the opinions being shared.
But the truth is, I’ve already added the NTR scene.
If I remove it now, I feel like it would just come off as insincere or even ridiculous.
I honestly feel stuck—no matter what I do, it feels like the wrong move.
Looking back, I definitely took the topic of NTR too lightly. I'm sorry for that.


At this point, I know trust has already been broken, and I’m not sure what else I can say.
But I will say this: I won’t be adding any more NTR content in the future.
I know many of you won’t believe that, and I understand why.
To be honest, I didn’t even want to make that scene in the first place—so maybe this is all for the best.


From now on, I just want to focus on creating the kind of content I personally enjoy, regardless of what supporters might say.
I’m aiming to finish the game around version 0.12, which will likely be in about two months.
For my next project, I’ve decided I absolutely won’t include any NTR content.
Your feedback has really stuck with me, and I’ll keep it in mind going forward.


I've gone back and forth on this so much that even I find it kind of ridiculous at this point...
Anyway, I'm sorry everyone.
I swear—no more fucking NTR.
im someone who will usually play a game that has ntr as longas it is fully avoidable and there isnt bleeding over of the content but the big deal here is that you lied saying you wouldnt add it then did so your word is dirt at this point. If i where you i would remove the scene as a show of good faith because as of now why should anyone believe there wont be more
 

Mommysbuttslut

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im someone who will usually play a game that has ntr as longas it is fully avoidable and there isnt bleeding over of the content but the big deal here is that you lied saying you wouldnt add it then did so your word is dirt at this point. If i where you i would remove the scene as a show of good faith because as of now why should anyone believe there wont be more
He has.
Everyone who's still upset about this should probably go look at the front page, the NTR content has been removed. We just need to wait for an uploader to come and mirror it at this point because it's above the mega cap.
 

Dreadna

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Sorry if im to stupid, but i still dont now if the game has ntr or not, you say that this

I do understand and relate to a lot of the opinions being shared.
But the truth is, I’ve already added the NTR scene.
If I remove it now, I feel like it would just come off as insincere or even ridiculous.
I honestly feel stuck—no matter what I do, it feels like the wrong move.
Looking back, I definitely took the topic of NTR too lightly. I'm sorry for that.
and the idea i get is that you're not going to make more ntr content but also not going to delete the content, also the tag is no longer in the game, so yeah i'm a little confuse, and loikl says people who likes harem games usually hates ntr and i'm one of them, and i get that is a optional scene but i really dont like ntr content and also i like to play all the content possible, if someone can response this comment i would appreciate a lot, beacause i really like previous version of this game and i stopped playing it beacause usually i wait some version for play the game again and the first thing i see when i open this post again was the "ntr drama", so again sorry if is to obvious xD
 
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Garouzar

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For the last time, this is a harem game, the dev already said that NTR is over, and that is the first and last scene that there will be, NTR makes no sense in a harem game, the MC has the balls to get girls, what is the point of an NPC appearing out of nowhere and turning him into a cuckold beyond satisfying a group of weirdos who only looked at this game because the tag appeared, but who didn't even care before.
I said expect and not want. I already know the NTR is jover, what i said is just what i thought when i look at the arts and to support the devs and make the devs realize the reality and good community communication with his patron... eventhough i cant play this game since it doesnt work well with Joiplay.
 
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th3n

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To be honest this is sad to me, not because he put ntr in the game more because the harem audience is not supporting devs anymore it seems. I mean the game from the start was supposed to be an harem game (if the wife/ntr scene is not counted) and even that the ntr comunity where the ones supporting the game (The supporters asked the dev to do ntr) and the support from the dev has not gone down.
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Honestly this just shows either how little support the harem comunity really gives or the little trust the harem comunity has in devs.
 

loikl

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To be honest this is sad to me, not because he put ntr in the game more because the harem audience is not supporting devs anymore it seems. I mean the game from the start was supposed to be an harem game (if the wife/ntr scene is not counted) and even that the ntr comunity where the ones supporting the game (The supporters asked the dev to do ntr) and the support from the dev has not gone down.
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Honestly this just shows either how little support the harem comunity really gives or the little trust the harem comunity has in devs.
That's not how it works. People aren't going to stop supporting the dev 3 seconds after they put NTR on it. They're going to wait for at least their opinion, which I've already made clear, which is why it's pointless for them to lose money. Even more so, if NTR were so "supported," the vast majority of NTR games wouldn't require an "avoidable" path to gain viewers.

And for the LAST TIME, NTR lovers, the dev has already said it's over, no more NTR. If you're looking for that content so much, stop crying here and go to a game focused on it, instead of begging for it in a harem game.:rolleyes:
 
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loikl

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Sorry if im to stupid, but i still dont now if the game has ntr or not, you say that this



and the idea i get is that you're not going to make more ntr content but also not going to delete the content, also the tag is no longer in the game, so yeah i'm a little confuse, and loikl says people who likes harem games usually hates ntr and i'm one of them, and i get that is a optional scene but i really dont like ntr content and also i like to play all the content possible, if someone can response this comment i would appreciate a lot, beacause i really like previous version of this game and i stopped playing it beacause usually i wait some version for play the game again and the first thing i see when i open this post again was the "ntr drama", so again sorry if is to obvious xD
The summary is simple: the dev added an NTR scene because, apparently, some idiot asked for it (rumor). When the dev realized that 99% of people didn't like it, he said he doesn't plan on adding any more in the future. That scene only appears if you search for it. He doesn't plan on removing it because... well, that's it, but he won't add any more in the future.

You can take his word for it and play this version (the scene won't be enough if you don't search for it), or wait for other updates and see if he keeps his word.

PS. I don't know why the tag disappeared, but maybe the developer decided to delete the scene after all.
 
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th3n

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That's not how it works. People aren't going to stop supporting the dev 3 seconds after they put NTR on it. They're going to wait for at least their opinion, which I've already made clear, which is why it's pointless for them to lose money. Even more so, if NTR were so "supported," the vast majority of NTR games wouldn't require an "avoidable" path to gain viewers.

And for the LAST TIME, NTR lovers, the dev has already said it's over, no more NTR. If you're looking for that content so much, stop crying here and go to a game focused on it, instead of begging for it in a harem game.:rolleyes:
I'm not an ntr lover, i hate ntr, but seeing that most ntr games have more support that harems in games i check every day in this forum makes me question if really the harem games have more support. I personally support harem games that i like a lot and some of them (really good harem game in my opinion) have a lot less support than ntr generic games. Just take in account that this game was released in Dec 14, 2024 and as today has 53 paid members, the game seems good, and this generic ai ntr game released in Dec 22, 2024 (almost the same date) has this many supporters
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How do you want me to believe that i'm in the "winning" side if all that i see is no support to harem devs. Not defending this dev but ok he made 2 mistakes i understand, but from the get go his game (that i believe is better than this 2 ntr games) has a lot less support. Why!? Can you explain to me please, i'm losing the faith in this comunity.
 
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The summary is simple: the dev added an NTR scene because, apparently, some idiot asked for it (rumor). When the dev realized that 99% of people didn't like it, he said he doesn't plan on adding any more in the future. That scene only appears if you search for it. He doesn't plan on removing it because... well, that's it, but he won't add any more in the future.

You can take his word for it and play this version (the scene won't be enough if you don't search for it), or wait for other updates and see if he keeps his word.

PS. I don't know why the tag disappeared, but maybe the developer decided to delete the scene after all.
The currently uploaded file is the version with the NTR scene removed.
 

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To be honest this is sad to me, not because he put ntr in the game more because the harem audience is not supporting devs anymore it seems. I mean the game from the start was supposed to be an harem game (if the wife/ntr scene is not counted) and even that the ntr comunity where the ones supporting the game (The supporters asked the dev to do ntr) and the support from the dev has not gone down.
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Honestly this just shows either how little support the harem comunity really gives or the little trust the harem comunity has in devs.
I’ve posted an official announcement on my Patreon stating that I will no longer create any NTR content.
As a result, some of the people who were supporting me and requesting NTR scenes have now canceled their pledges.


While it does make me feel a bit disappointed, I also feel a sense of relief.
From now on, there truly won’t be any more NTR content.
 

th3n

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I’ve posted an official announcement on my Patreon stating that I will no longer create any NTR content.
As a result, some of the people who were supporting me and requesting NTR scenes have now canceled their pledges.


While it does make me feel a bit disappointed, I also feel a sense of relief.
From now on, there truly won’t be any more NTR content.
Personally i like that, but objectively i don't know if it was really a good choise, the people that are talking sht about the ntr part are not going to give you support and that is the part that makes me sad tbh
 
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Mikototo

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Just wait for the uploaders to get to it. Since this is the second time it's been uploaded today it's probably down a bit on the que.
Oh, didn't notice the update was this recent, actually the first time i check a post and there was only one link available that it didn't even tick.
Nvm my comment then haha.
 
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