jaka

Newbie
May 16, 2017
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Hmm... I hadn’t really thought about it that way.
I did mention to patrons about a month ago that I was working on an NTR scene…


What I don’t really get is — it’s a hidden scene that only triggers if you specifically go find a side character and choose the NTR option. It’s basically like the scene doesn’t even exist unless you go looking for it.
My game still mainly focuses on netori and blackmail-style domination, so I’m honestly wondering… is this really something worth getting that angry about?


Am I just lacking empathy here?
If you haven't noticed a pattern here on F95 already, the majority here screams NTR at the top of their lungs everyday like the current "modern gaming" audience. Best advice is, if you are not forcing the NTR and is not planning on focusing on it, just do your best to ignore the rest and focus on the story. You'll just burn yourself out trying to explain yourself because, believe it or not, they also screamed NTR at a lot of games that show the mom having sex with the dad even though the mom was never a love interest.
 

CallMeHuff

Newbie
Feb 17, 2023
92
252
When I first started making this game, I wanted to create something like Agent 17.
But I realized I didn’t have the skills to pull that off — it was too difficult for me at the time.
So instead, I shifted my mindset to just finishing my first project.


That’s why I focused on fast-paced story progression (quick sex scenes), a variety of positions, and different female characters — my goal was to create something that people could enjoy as fap material.
You actually dont even realize how lucky you were. Usually games that just focuses on pumping out sex scenes end up failing. But you created a game with a decent plot while providing great scenes.... until now. I really dont even get it. The MC has zero characteristics that point towards being a Cuck or any girls Main/Side having affairs. He's written as an Alpha Dom who takes what he wants. Its just all so out of pocket.
 

EuroRave78

Newbie
Apr 1, 2025
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Hmm... I hadn’t really thought about it that way.
I did mention to patrons about a month ago that I was working on an NTR scene…


What I don’t really get is — it’s a hidden scene that only triggers if you specifically go find a side character and choose the NTR option. It’s basically like the scene doesn’t even exist unless you go looking for it.
My game still mainly focuses on netori and blackmail-style domination, so I’m honestly wondering… is this really something worth getting that angry about?


Am I just lacking empathy here?
Yes, it is. Because ntr or nts or any sort of cuck content doesn't belong in a non cuck focused game. Whenever it is introduced it always ends up being a focus of the game because all those who hate it leave, and only ntr fans remain and so you will have to deliver content for your new audience, which is the ntr fans.

Just check who are the people supporting your decision, here, take this guy for example:

No, but you also shouldn't be on F95 yourself. You'll just get the most atrocious takes by people that are probably not even supporting (financially) yet expecting things you were literally paid for.

As soon as people can't comprehend a kink they just start going ballistic for literally no reason. See the shitstorm you're going through for ONE scene as an example; make yourself a favor and take some time off of here lmao
Now that might sound cute and supportive and all but then you check his profile and:

Honestly one of the best (if not the best) NTR game. All scenes are just amazing
Yeah, a ntr fan, so he doesn't really give a fuck about you, he's just happy theres cuck content now, these are the same people that will ask and even try to bribe you into adding their kink into your game, even knowing the negative consequences it will have for you and your game that is aiming at the opposite audience, because they don't care about you, your game or the "vision" you have for your game, they only care about injecting their kink everywhere.

Your game now has the ntr tag, everyone who hates that tag will automatically think the game revolves around it and will leave without even giving it a chance, or at most will play it but don't support it, because people who hate ntr don't want to pay for it, shocking, I know.


That's why most devs let people know if such content will be there or not, and they follow through and build their audience that way. You were planning to make a game about netori and domination, right?

thats the opposite of ntr/nts, you cant have a MC that is dominant while also being a cuck, it doesn't work. Now your protagonist is inconsistent and a joke

Anyway, good luck. I didn't even get to play the game and now don't plan to obviously, but you might want to start planning more ntr content and focus on that because that's your demographics now.
 

luismg77

New Member
Aug 5, 2022
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TLDR:

Lacking Empathy? Probably not.

Lacking Honesty? 100%

Some actual (hopefully constructive) criticism and perspective:

As a quick perspective from a players side as to why so much anger. Because its easy to look at it and go 'It's just one scene. It's avoidable.

I personally support alot of different titles. Some of these are to the amount of $100's if not more over the course of a games development cycle.

I also have a personal rule, I never support NTR/Sharing/Swinging/Cuck or anything that involves 'other dicks'.

So lets say that I believed your statement that you would never add NTR to your game and decided to support it - I would now be in a situation where my $upport had gone towards you making NTR content.

Once could even argue that, you had obtained funding under false pretenses (which is probably not a good thing legally) as deception to obtain funding is fraud, and criminal in most places.

There is also the typical direction that these things can (and often do) tend to go. Which is that 'Vanilla' or Harem or 'non other dicks' players will drop the title, and in order to recover revenue or replace the now missing funding a developer will turn to the players that remain, who are either NTR Neutral or Pro-NTR. Which means more gets added. This stems from a simple fact that NTR players can and will play 'vanilla games' but Vanilla players will not play 'NTR games'. The result is that once you start down that path, it tends to the 'more and more ntr like content'.

Additionally there is the optics of it. When alot of us who have been in the community for a while see statements like : "It's only one scene" We immediatly think 'So far". When you say "It's just an out of the way, avoidable scene" We think "that still took Dev time that could have been spent elsewhere". Look at it from our point of view, some of these games take years to complete, spending additional time adding content like NTR or whatever, increases the development time for the game overall.

Even if every NTR scene(s) you ever added totalled only 1 months development time over a 3 year game. Thats still an addition 1 month of 'Patreon Cash' that your asking from me and everyone else who activly support(ed) you. Which doesn't exactly incentivise players to jump on the 'monthy support' bandwagon.

Ultimatly, its your game, you can do what you want. But the other side of that coin, is that, as a supporter, I will do what I want. I cannot (and don't want to) speak for everyone who activly contributes to games. But when I see that you lied about this game and broke the never adding 'ntr content'. My thought process goes like this.

I will never support a game that Developer makes during the games development cycle ever again. Period.
The only way I will every support anything that developer makes is if the game is complete, I play it to completion, liked it, and it had zero 'other dick' content.

Even in this case, I will donate like $10, which is far less than $5-10 per month for 3+ years.

There also the 'moral' question (Wierd topic for a porn/pirate site I know).

You broke your promise (and one might assume your original vision for the game) for some cash. Is that the kind of person I really want to support?

I think thats enough ranting from me. I am not trying to bully/beat a dead horse. You asked if you were "just lacking empathy". Well, only you can answer that. Best I can do is try to provide you with a players (or at least my own -as a players- perspective.

Hope it helps you.
I don't normally post in threads because of the toxicity that comes with certain kinks. I just check them out to stay informed, but this comment is too good to pass up.

I find this to be one of the most eloquent and non-toxic comments I've seen here and I can relate to all the points you make.

Nicely done
 

Pimer666

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Oct 23, 2021
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man, just to be honest and give a little option to both ntr lovers/haters
i think the dev should add on the main page that the ntr content is completly avoidable if it really is, and not just "skippable" and it happens either u like it or not, like some games do... it would solve most of the problem already xd
 
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Akabakka

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Jul 12, 2023
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man, just to be honest and give a little option to both ntr lovers/haters
i think the dev should add on the main page that the ntr content is completly avoidable if it really is, and not just "skippable" and it happens either u like it or not, like some games do... it would solve most of the problem already xd
It's already optional, so it won't solve the issue. At that point the people that are unhappy either forgive or won't.
 
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Pimer666

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Oct 23, 2021
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It's already optional, so it won't solve the issue. At that point the people that are unhappy either forgive or won't.
i know but for someone like me, being a ntr hater, first thing i search when i see "ntr tag" is if it is avoidable or just skippable
if it is avoidable i'm game, but if it is skippable only, i'm out of here, so leaving it on main page helps a bit i guess
 
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Well time to unwatch and ignore. I can accept 100% avoidable ntr/nts in some games but the way the dev went about it here is pathetic. You broke your promise and caved to some cuck. Were is your self respect? You for sure lost fans and probably supporters. The fact that you still want to add more in the future is just :sick: I would tell you good luck but i would be lying i did enjoy game up to this point. Goodbye sellout

Edit: Dev seems to have taken out the ntr content now with no plans to add it again. Thought i put this here as not to be seen as spreading misinformation. Everyone have a good day.
 
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Rayne

Newbie
Aug 2, 2017
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Yes, I understand that developing a game requires a lot of time and effort, but adding content to the game that the developer said would not be in the game is a strong blow to trust. In the eyes of the community, you will remain an NTR developer and there will be no trust in your next games. You could have done as some other developers did and created mini-games like "what if..." or have such content launched with a separate button in the menu but not integrated into the main story. And yes, it will still take time for such content, but at least it will not be in the main story. And for some reason, many people think that those who sit on this site do not pay for games and this is a misconception because I only learn about the game here and if I like the game, I go to the resources where I can buy it. I would say that this site, in addition to piracy, gives excellent advertising to games.
 

Mommysbuttslut

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Feb 19, 2021
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To be honest, NTR really isn't my thing.
I don’t even understand what part of it is supposed to be arousing. So even while creating the scene, I kept thinking, “Is this really something people get off to?”


That said, some of my patrons requested that I include this type of content.
I figured that if it was just a side character and only accessible through a specific choice, it wouldn’t be a problem — so I went ahead and made it.


I do apologize for going back on my word after saying I wouldn’t include NTR.
But I also believe my patrons’ requests matter, which is why I added it.


Moving forward, I plan to continue adding more requested scenes from supporters — but always in a way that doesn’t affect the main storyline.
Bruhh you got trolled. You'd be amazed how many harem fans just put netorare on their excluded tag list. There's now a significant proportion of people who should be your primary fan base who will literally never see your game in the latest updates page now. Take the game Dating my Daughter, after the dev added the sharing scenes in their support dropped by over half and it took literally years and another game without any of that content to build it back up. It's not even about betraying your fanbase, it's about not sabotaging your own project. There are 100% people who would've subbed to you who won't now, and there's also 100% people who will sub to you expecting more NTR and be disappointed if there isn't. You've basically just seriously damaged your own future support base over 1 single scene that you didn't even enjoy.

Your game, do what you want, but legit if I were in your shoes I'd update the thread with a revised version that doesn't have that scene in it and pretend this is all just a bad dream. You might piss off a few people but the damage coNTRol would more than make up for a few upset cuck fans.
 
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