loikl

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I woke up to find a lot of new comments...


I think many people may have misunderstood the situation.
The NTR scene has absolutely no impact on the main story.
It only appears if you go to the basement, talk to a specific character, and then deliberately choose the “Go Out (NTR)” option.
If you don’t want to see it, you don’t have to—it’s basically nonexistent for anyone who chooses to avoid it.


I do understand and relate to a lot of the opinions being shared.
But the truth is, I’ve already added the NTR scene.
If I remove it now, I feel like it would just come off as insincere or even ridiculous.
I honestly feel stuck—no matter what I do, it feels like the wrong move.
Looking back, I definitely took the topic of NTR too lightly. I'm sorry for that.


At this point, I know trust has already been broken, and I’m not sure what else I can say.
But I will say this: I won’t be adding any more NTR content in the future.
I know many of you won’t believe that, and I understand why.
To be honest, I didn’t even want to make that scene in the first place—so maybe this is all for the best.


From now on, I just want to focus on creating the kind of content I personally enjoy, regardless of what supporters might say.
I’m aiming to finish the game around version 0.12, which will likely be in about two months.
For my next project, I’ve decided I absolutely won’t include any NTR content.
Your feedback has really stuck with me, and I’ll keep it in mind going forward.


I've gone back and forth on this so much that even I find it kind of ridiculous at this point...
Anyway, I'm sorry everyone.
I swear—no more fucking NTR.
The problem was the fact that, being a harem, people want the MC to be the one who gets the girls, and for him to suddenly turn into a pathetic cuck out of nowhere (however "optional" that may be) is incongruous.

I believe you when you say you don't intend to add more NTRs in the future, and I know many will, and if you maintain that idea, the players' confidence will grow again.
 

Letstryitout

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Hmm, the dev caved in, I wonder if the devs gets overwhelmed now because he is trying to make vocal people "content", hard task they will always bitch and moan regardless. Honestly, if he is going to make game the way he wants and stop listening supporters like he says, maybe he can create good stuff.

Well good luck, like he said, rock and a hard place.
 
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Mommysbuttslut

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If I remove it now, I feel like it would just come off as insincere or even ridiculous.
And if you keep it in you'll alienate your core fanbase. I personally don't care about optional NTR just for playing a game. With one single exception I'd never support a project that had it, but I wouldn't care very much just for a game I'm playing for free. A significant proportion of the people you want to be marketing this game to won't ever play it because the tag is there though. An even more significant portion of those people won't support it even if they play it because that tag is there.
You're a harem dev. A lot of harem fans won't even support a project from a dev that's previously made NTR content. As I said, it's your project and you can run it into the ground however you want but keeping it in is a mistake if you want to make a harem game that's supposed to appeal to harem fans.

Just to be clear, nobody cares that it's optional content for a side character. They care that it's there at all. NTR haters aren't going to give money to a dev who's going to, from their perspective, waste it on NTR content. Most harem fans are NTR haters.
As for people who want NTR, you either need to commit to it or you're slapping them in the face too. The people that tag is going to attract are going to be just as upset that there's only one single scene with that content in the entire game that they can't even access until they're in the late game.
 

piggy828

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NTR now? glad i stopped playing back in version 0.7
Still, how about giving the current version a try?
There’s only one NTR scene, and it’s completely optional—there’s absolutely no forced content, and it doesn’t appear in the main story at all.
If you play the game normally, you’ll never even encounter it.


The reason I’m saying this is because I personally think the scenes created up to version 0.10, especially compared to version 0.7, are quite well made.
It would be a shame to miss out on them
 

piggy828

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And if you keep it in you'll alienate your core fanbase. I personally don't care about optional NTR just for playing a game. With one single exception I'd never support a project that had it, but I wouldn't care very much just for a game I'm playing for free. A significant proportion of the people you want to be marketing this game to won't ever play it because the tag is there though. An even more significant portion of those people won't support it even if they play it because that tag is there.
You're a harem dev. A lot of harem fans won't even support a project from a dev that's previously made NTR content. As I said, it's your project and you can run it into the ground however you want but keeping it in is a mistake if you want to make a harem game that's supposed to appeal to harem fans.

Just to be clear, nobody cares that it's optional content for a side character. They care that it's there at all. NTR haters aren't going to give money to a dev who's going to, from their perspective, waste it on NTR content. Most harem fans are NTR haters.
As for people who want NTR, you either need to commit to it or you're slapping them in the face too. The people that tag is going to attract are going to be just as upset that there's only one single scene with that content in the entire game that they can't even access until they're in the late game.
Yes... I completely understand.
Thank you for the advice.
 

loikl

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Yes... I completely understand.
Thank you for the advice.
As I said, my friend, don't worry too much about it now. While many won't like the scene, as long as it's just that, most will be able to let it go and continue with the game (and the support). Although perhaps you could clarify that in the "dev section" at the beginning of the thread for those who just saw the tag and know what it's about and its future. This can help avoid people who are just looking for NTR or people who want to avoid the game for something as simple as that.

In any case, good luck.
 

Garouzar

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Nov 27, 2022
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I woke up to find a lot of new comments...


I think many people may have misunderstood the situation.
The NTR scene has absolutely no impact on the main story.
It only appears if you go to the basement, talk to a specific character, and then deliberately choose the “Go Out (NTR)” option.
If you don’t want to see it, you don’t have to—it’s basically nonexistent for anyone who chooses to avoid it.


I do understand and relate to a lot of the opinions being shared.
But the truth is, I’ve already added the NTR scene.
If I remove it now, I feel like it would just come off as insincere or even ridiculous.
I honestly feel stuck—no matter what I do, it feels like the wrong move.
Looking back, I definitely took the topic of NTR too lightly. I'm sorry for that.


At this point, I know trust has already been broken, and I’m not sure what else I can say.
But I will say this: I won’t be adding any more NTR content in the future.
I know many of you won’t believe that, and I understand why.
To be honest, I didn’t even want to make that scene in the first place—so maybe this is all for the best.


From now on, I just want to focus on creating the kind of content I personally enjoy, regardless of what supporters might say.
I’m aiming to finish the game around version 0.12, which will likely be in about two months.
For my next project, I’ve decided I absolutely won’t include any NTR content.
Your feedback has really stuck with me, and I’ll keep it in mind going forward.


I've gone back and forth on this so much that even I find it kind of ridiculous at this point...
Anyway, I'm sorry everyone.
I swear—no more fucking NTR.
Is your supporter patreon okay with it? If so then it's fine and dont look at f95 anti-NTR freak xD

Buuuut, if they have problem with it well, you fell off so hard.
 

Garouzar

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As I said, my friend, don't worry too much about it now. While many won't like the scene, as long as it's just that, most will be able to let it go and continue with the game (and the support). Although perhaps you could clarify that in the "dev section" at the beginning of the thread for those who just saw the tag and know what it's about and its future. This can help avoid people who are just looking for NTR or people who want to avoid the game for something as simple as that.

In any case, good luck.
Tbh, i expect the game has NTR but no drama NTR. Just voyerism and the girls just wanna have fun having sex with others even with no MC consent. The 3d style really good for Harem & Ntr game.

But that will be the devs and his supporter decision. If all of them fine with it, the devs need to harden his heart and expect getting bullied by f95 anti NTR freak while making money.
 

loikl

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Tbh, i expect the game has NTR but no drama NTR. Just voyerism and the girls just wanna have fun having sex with others even with no MC consent. The 3d style really good for Harem & Ntr game.

But that will be the devs and his supporter decision. If all of them fine with it, the devs need to harden his heart and expect getting bullied by f95 anti NTR freak while making money.
For the last time, this is a harem game, the dev already said that NTR is over, and that is the first and last scene that there will be, NTR makes no sense in a harem game, the MC has the balls to get girls, what is the point of an NPC appearing out of nowhere and turning him into a cuckold beyond satisfying a group of weirdos who only looked at this game because the tag appeared, but who didn't even care before.
 

loikl

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Bad first impression, learning that the dev added cuckery because a single dude asked him to. How does anyone use this site for over a week without finding a thread with some understanding of whats going to piss people off and fuck over a game.
The developer tried to add optional content, people didn't like it and decided to stop doing it. It was a mistake, of course, but they've realized it and intend to fix it by not adding more in the future. It's best to leave it in the past and move on, otherwise, this is just attracting undesirable people.

For now it's the right thing to do, if in the future that promise is broken... well then that would probably be something pretty bad.
 

CallMeHuff

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Feb 17, 2023
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I woke up to find a lot of new comments...


I think many people may have misunderstood the situation.
The NTR scene has absolutely no impact on the main story.
It only appears if you go to the basement, talk to a specific character, and then deliberately choose the “Go Out (NTR)” option.
If you don’t want to see it, you don’t have to—it’s basically nonexistent for anyone who chooses to avoid it.


I do understand and relate to a lot of the opinions being shared.
But the truth is, I’ve already added the NTR scene.
If I remove it now, I feel like it would just come off as insincere or even ridiculous.
I honestly feel stuck—no matter what I do, it feels like the wrong move.
Looking back, I definitely took the topic of NTR too lightly. I'm sorry for that.


At this point, I know trust has already been broken, and I’m not sure what else I can say.
But I will say this: I won’t be adding any more NTR content in the future.
I know many of you won’t believe that, and I understand why.
To be honest, I didn’t even want to make that scene in the first place—so maybe this is all for the best.


From now on, I just want to focus on creating the kind of content I personally enjoy, regardless of what supporters might say.
I’m aiming to finish the game around version 0.12, which will likely be in about two months.
For my next project, I’ve decided I absolutely won’t include any NTR content.
Your feedback has really stuck with me, and I’ll keep it in mind going forward.


I've gone back and forth on this so much that even I find it kind of ridiculous at this point...
Anyway, I'm sorry everyone.
I swear—no more fucking NTR.
Its been 5 months from my first comment on this game and back then I commented on sophia's husband fucking her and how no one wanted to see it. It was removed and everyone continued to enjoy the game. The game has many more followers since then and the addition of NTR was a terrible mistake, AGAIN, but everything else about this game is literally right up my alley and I think up almost all of our alleys (Harem Enjoyers). Thats why there was such outrage in the first place. A perfect game for Harem enjoyers and then betrayal. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Please for the love of god, stick to your word this time.
 
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