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Well, I played handful of first updates (between 5-10), and at first I liked it a lot, the writing was solid, no grammatical errors afaik, renders were good, girls were endearing, but when I read further, the story was too predictable for me to continue reading, because I knew MC (Jensen?) will get all the girls and all of them want him just because he is unnaturally attractive. So it felt like it's not even important to know the details, because the conclusion was obvious and that's why I think some people skip through it as you said.
I was reading it whole at first, but in the last update I played, I skipped parts of it ("Oh, MC met a woman... they gonna fuck, skip... yeah, they do"). I didn't feel any tension, because you can't fail, MC doesn't even have to seduce them or make them like him in any other way, because they throw themselves at him and I couldn't even get into the MC, because he was just way too perfect to be believable. It's maybe because of my preference to have a hero as an underdog or have him get knocked down and then have him get up and fight back (figuratively speaking). I also like roleplaying, but that's beside the point. I know that a lot of people love overpowered perfect main characters, else there wouldn't be so many popular isekai stories nowadays. I don't consider stories with op perfect mc as good, but they do have a huge consumer demographic, so there is nothing wrong in creating them.
Anyway, "It's like... my opinion, man". I'm not trying to shit on your work. I have to add this, because a lot of creators on the internet take critique or a different opinion as an attack. I like to discuss different opinions. And I am looking for a reason to try this again.
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No insult taken from you man.. I actually really want to show you the depth of RTP.
You've just played a part of S1.. I am not going to give a way the rest but Jensen is not perfect and he fails. Why i said read the novel and you'll see he doesn't just fuck every girl. People are now upset cause he can't get to the girl(s) they want him to get to. You will have only 3 girls to choose from at the end.
So grind through S1 if you have to.. once in S2 hopefully by then you're into the story and will continue. If so then S3 will be another things. The game progresses like.. erm "Seasons"...
But if you can't then that is fine.. no worries
You've just played a part of S1.. I am not going to give a way the rest but Jensen is not perfect and he fails. Why i said read the novel and you'll see he doesn't just fuck every girl. People are now upset cause he can't get to the girl(s) they want him to get to. You will have only 3 girls to choose from at the end.
So grind through S1 if you have to.. once in S2 hopefully by then you're into the story and will continue. If so then S3 will be another things. The game progresses like.. erm "Seasons"...
But if you can't then that is fine.. no worries
- Feb 12, 2018
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Nice update. When I read the info before starting, that there is a point system in place I wondered what that means? Did you carry over something from the first 2 seasons? And does it impact how the girls behave in some way?
Your points you've been accumulating will mainly be used for the Epilogue to see the outcome what you wanted. This update is more a confirmation for the girl you've been saving your points towards...
Question to you.. Did you follow the information Martin the science guy gave regarding the outcome of each person with regards to the experiments?
Question to you.. Did you follow the information Martin the science guy gave regarding the outcome of each person with regards to the experiments?
- Feb 12, 2018
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I see. So for now there is no reason to replay the first 2 seasons in different ways as that doesn't change any dialogues in season 3?
Yes I did. But it wasn't really anything new, because I already understood that after reading some discussion in this thread over the past month.
Correct no reason to replay S1/2 only for reconfirming the story.
As for my question.. it explains a lot of what a few ppl seem to have missed about Jensen and his abilities.
As for my question.. it explains a lot of what a few ppl seem to have missed about Jensen and his abilities.
- Sep 15, 2018
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Things are good! Nobody comments on bad games - it makes no sense.
Top games have thousands of pages of comments and almost all are negative. You have something to strive for.
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Oh boy, quite a bit to catch up on since last evening, and this is my first proper coffee break to do so.
Could we have written a different Vicky and a different Eve who'd have been okay with a Harem? Of course we could. But think how different they'd have to be. If either of those women were not so absolutely set on just one perfect relationship with one man, neither would be single for a start. Hell, Vicky's entire life is built on her single-love determination to look after her daughter. None of Vicky's background and story fits at all with anything but a committed man of her own. She'd rather happily stay single.
Sure, that's deeper thinking about psychology and personality types than most games make you deal with, but it is the very reason that those characters have the appeal they do.
A movie has thousands of frames of images that depict that single fight scene. For us to render just 1,000 images, enough for just a few seconds of fighting, would take around 4 months, not to mention be boring as hell for poor MrKnobb to spend all those months posing and rendering just that one thing. So, we have to 'cheat' and suggest a lot in just a relatively tiny amount of frames. A book, from which a VN gets the word 'Novel', has to use even more words.
Um ... Congratulations on that achievement? Not sure what else could be said to that.
To us, a perfect happy ending is exactly where we are heading. One that is true to the characters, and thus believable within the context of the story. We are, and have been, telling a story. We've been completely clear and open about that, and we make no apologies whatsoever for it. YOUR one and only job, as a 'consumer' is to decide whether or not it is a story you want. Please, don't blame your failure, in your one and only job, on us. Thanks.
Nicky still acts as she does because there were several scenes in Series 1 that you could not avoid through choices. You could NOT avoid agreeing to date both girls, because that was the ONLY way to date either of them. Each of them only proposed to date you to force the other to give it a go. Each wanted you to ideally end up with the other, at the beginning.
If you missed that, then you really didn't get what was happening in S1, and it is very, very likely you missed a lot else too.
You didn't play 5-10 episodes worth, as the entire first Series was just 6. From where you were up to, you hadn't gotten past about Episode 3 of Series 1. That thing of all the girls throwing themselves at him, and his own extreme horniness in responding, was down to the effects of some genetic experimentation done on him, and was removed before the end of the first Series by other events in the story.
Haha you actually nailed it yourself in the first line - Once you understand the characters, (if you are the kind of person who can understand characters and have a degree of empathy that is), a harem just doesn't make sense. Sure, it would be fun for the player, but it isn't something that Jensen would feel okay with. That's always been a core part of his story - from his devotion to Jade and how that shaped his entire life from his teenage, to the fact that you can see his loyalty in all of his relationships.
Could we have written a different Vicky and a different Eve who'd have been okay with a Harem? Of course we could. But think how different they'd have to be. If either of those women were not so absolutely set on just one perfect relationship with one man, neither would be single for a start. Hell, Vicky's entire life is built on her single-love determination to look after her daughter. None of Vicky's background and story fits at all with anything but a committed man of her own. She'd rather happily stay single.
Sure, that's deeper thinking about psychology and personality types than most games make you deal with, but it is the very reason that those characters have the appeal they do.
Practicality.
A movie has thousands of frames of images that depict that single fight scene. For us to render just 1,000 images, enough for just a few seconds of fighting, would take around 4 months, not to mention be boring as hell for poor MrKnobb to spend all those months posing and rendering just that one thing. So, we have to 'cheat' and suggest a lot in just a relatively tiny amount of frames. A book, from which a VN gets the word 'Novel', has to use even more words.
There was never a Harem route, and there are tags you can check to look for Harem games. This game never, ever had one. It was never intended as a Harem. How many real-life Harems have you come across personally first hand? Exactly that, they are exceptionally rare, and the few there are are generally arranged relationships for power and money, not sex or love.
Not really, no. The so-called story of a large proportion of games here are suitable only for porn - hackneyed, unbelievable, and there purely to carry a particular fetish fantasy. That you can't tell the difference is a sign of the Dunning-Kruger effect, and while it massively widens the amount of games you'll be able to enjoy, it likewise means you'll be a terrible judge of what is actually believable or a good story. You just don't have the appreciation for what makes one. Go, enjoy games. But bear in mind you have no natural appreciation for story, so go easy on the reviews and judgements.
That's a long-winded way of saying "I completely misunderstood this game, and completely ignored all the months and months of discussion and reviews, and now I'm butt-hurt that this game isn't the game it never was, never claimed it would be, and that never existed except against all else, in your own head".
Um ... Congratulations on that achievement? Not sure what else could be said to that.
To us, a perfect happy ending is exactly where we are heading. One that is true to the characters, and thus believable within the context of the story. We are, and have been, telling a story. We've been completely clear and open about that, and we make no apologies whatsoever for it. YOUR one and only job, as a 'consumer' is to decide whether or not it is a story you want. Please, don't blame your failure, in your one and only job, on us. Thanks.
The choices matter. The criticism that there are very few choices is a fair one, there are, and there are many reasons for that some of which are simply about the practicalities of multiple paths and the effect of having to develop multiple storylines with different scenes on the development and progression side of things. So we have warned pretty much all along that the main branching will be towards the end - the point we are now starting to reach.I haven't played this in a while i believe(might have been since last update or the one before.). The girl choices don't seem to matter as of S2 and they kind of didn't matter in S1 either but the pheromones was there for that. I'm currently starting up S2 for a recap.
Anyways I clicked neither and Vicky(just as a test) for interested at the start but i noticed her daughter, Nicky, still throws herself at me for some reason and the dialogue doesn't match the choice i chose. It kind of defeats the purpose of that choice at the beginning imo if she's still in the running.
The story is still good though. I'm just not interested in Nicky at all tbh. Hopefully in S3 the choice are more solid with the women as they feel a little too loose currently. Since there's no harem I'd atleast like to have an absolute choice on one girl and have it stick.
Evaline and Tania are the best girl's btw.
Nicky still acts as she does because there were several scenes in Series 1 that you could not avoid through choices. You could NOT avoid agreeing to date both girls, because that was the ONLY way to date either of them. Each of them only proposed to date you to force the other to give it a go. Each wanted you to ideally end up with the other, at the beginning.
If you missed that, then you really didn't get what was happening in S1, and it is very, very likely you missed a lot else too.
We don't mind opinions, not at all. But we hate when people state opinions as facts, and especially when they are based on things that aren't true.
You didn't play 5-10 episodes worth, as the entire first Series was just 6. From where you were up to, you hadn't gotten past about Episode 3 of Series 1. That thing of all the girls throwing themselves at him, and his own extreme horniness in responding, was down to the effects of some genetic experimentation done on him, and was removed before the end of the first Series by other events in the story.
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So it's confirmed? You'll just get the mom, her daughter or the sidekick girl? Disappointing but ok.
"Rogue did a lot of dialogue writing in this one and I think he did an amazing job. He's a talent for sure..." He redeemed himself from the shitshow that was the last update? Good on him.
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I think it's one hell of an achievement to completely ignore everything said in the game and by the devs on the forum then act like you've been strung along for missing out on a harem that never existed.
That's some next level dodge ball skills as they managed to avoid every single plot point and every comment made by the devs that made the 3 main girls clear during season 1.
No harem tag and not even a single hint at a harem, even the girls mentioned they wanted a 1 on 1 relationship...
Then someone else not only managed to dodge the games plot but also explanations by several people on the forum about what went on with Jensen losing his abilities went completely over their heads and they carried on arguing over a point they didn't even understand...
Either we've been trolled hard or people managed to skip everything in the game and just made up their own narrative then blamed the devs when the actual narrative didn't match their own.
I've had period cramps less painful than dealing with some people on these forums.
That's some next level dodge ball skills as they managed to avoid every single plot point and every comment made by the devs that made the 3 main girls clear during season 1.
No harem tag and not even a single hint at a harem, even the girls mentioned they wanted a 1 on 1 relationship...
Then someone else not only managed to dodge the games plot but also explanations by several people on the forum about what went on with Jensen losing his abilities went completely over their heads and they carried on arguing over a point they didn't even understand...
Either we've been trolled hard or people managed to skip everything in the game and just made up their own narrative then blamed the devs when the actual narrative didn't match their own.
I've had period cramps less painful than dealing with some people on these forums.
It's obviously a pickle sandwich.
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Kinda weird, In the Start, women were throwing themselves at MC, even the Doctor, yet now mc has to chose one.
- Aug 22, 2018
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Seriously.....
He had a side effect in season 1 with the pheromones due to experiments on him, explained in the story. That also ended in season 1.
Women haven't thrown themselves at him since mid way through the first season, we are now in season 3 facing a choice that's been built up since meeting Nicky and Vicky. All this is explained in the story, many times.
Are people intentionally avoiding the plot?
I wouldn't mind but we've just had pages of thread discussing this and how it hasn't been a thing for a long time.
- Sep 15, 2018
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Do not be angry. It's just that people are not ready for a serious plot in such games. The only game on the site in which the plot is taken for granted is the Dual family, but there the author created an atmosphere that you immerse yourself in completely, which captivates you so that fans have been pouring mud on it for 2 years
, waiting for the continuation and continue to pay.A detective story + a serious plot + atmosphere is a bad choice for a similar game. People are looking for their soul mate in real life, but in the game, they want to be Macho, who can do anything and when they do not allow it, they are upset
. They like the game, they like girls, they want them all, and they were driven into a corner and did not give anything.
Did you also know right at the start of the Series, Jensen sits on his balcony thinking about what you just commented on?
I bet you, you did not know that he was drinking a 20yr old KWV Brandy...
I bet you, you did not know that he was drinking a 20yr old KWV Brandy...
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Bloody hell, is this whining ever gonna stop, READ the comments for gods sake!!
You know what you are saying is correct and I agree with you. That is why we play VN's.
BUT there are all kinds of VN's to choose from, we are spoilt. I love Milfy City and DMD, yet I love TiF, Depraved Awakening etc... All depends on my mood. IF I did not make RTP myself then i know for sure I would've like it too..
BUT there are all kinds of VN's to choose from, we are spoilt. I love Milfy City and DMD, yet I love TiF, Depraved Awakening etc... All depends on my mood. IF I did not make RTP myself then i know for sure I would've like it too..
Do not be angry. It's just that people are not ready for a serious plot in such games. The only game on the site in which the plot is taken for granted is the Dual family, but there the author created an atmosphere that you immerse yourself in completely, which captivates you so that fans have been pouring mud on it for 2 years
A detective story + a serious plot + atmosphere is a bad choice for a similar game. People are looking for their soul mate in real life, but in the game, they want to be Macho, who can do anything and when they do not allow it, they are upset
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I dont really have time for reading 100+ pages of comment, I just think game should follow on whatever it has been doing from start.
Btw i feel your comment is more unnecessary and a waste.