Ryantrix

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Bloody hell, is this whining ever gonna stop, READ the comments for gods sake!!
I dont really have time for reading 100+ pages of comment, I just think game should follow on whatever it has been doing from start.
Btw i feel your comment is more unnecessary and a waste.
 
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RogueKnightUK

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A detective story + a serious plot + atmosphere is a bad choice for a similar game. People are looking for their soul mate in real life, but in the game, they want to be Macho, who can do anything and when they do not allow it, they are upset:censored:. They like the game, they like girls, they want them all, and they were driven into a corner and did not give anything.:cry:
Right there is the basic problem a lot of people are having. Who ever said it was a similar game? Nobody. That's only ever been in you own head, as your own mistake.

RtP was never, ever, meant to be a 'similar game' to most games. It was meant to be a story that hadn't been done before. Unique. It was never a 'porn game', nor a 'harem game' any more than it was a FPS or a driving sim. Nobody ever said differently, outside the heads of some very misguided people.

MrKnobb set out from the start to tell a story. A story that wasn't in other VNs. If you absolutely can't live without forcing a label on things then it is a Visual Novel, aimed at an adult audience, in the genre of Action Thriller. It could have been an awesome movie, but MrKnobb didn't have a spare hundred million dollars or so sitting around to afford that, so instead it is a VN.

It is meant to be an interesting story that makes you think. Apparently, mostly it succeeds in that, other than that a lot of people only think "Where's the cock?" or "Why can't I fuck my daughter?" :D
 

Ryantrix

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Seriously.....

He had a side effect in season 1 with the pheromones due to experiments on him, explained in the story. That also ended in season 1.

Women haven't thrown themselves at him since mid way through the first season, we are now in season 3 facing a choice that's been built up since meeting Nicky and Vicky. All this is explained in the story, many times.

Are people intentionally avoiding the plot?

I wouldn't mind but we've just had pages of thread discussing this and how it hasn't been a thing for a long time.
I know from season 2, it said there is a point system, basically ending would depend on point, but from season 3 ep1 you have to kick off all except 1, so unless you replay the game with different decision, you are likely to miss lots of content, though i dont know yet how much it will be.
Apparently there are lots of haters and lovers on this comment section, people are way too much into it, it's just a game.
 

Synnerai

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We don't mind opinions, not at all. But we hate when people state opinions as facts, and especially when they are based on things that aren't true.

You didn't play 5-10 episodes worth, as the entire first Series was just 6. From where you were up to, you hadn't gotten past about Episode 3 of Series 1. That thing of all the girls throwing themselves at him, and his own extreme horniness in responding, was down to the effects of some genetic experimentation done on him, and was removed before the end of the first Series by other events in the story.
Well, you wrote things based on a non-truth and assumption yourself.

I never said I played "5-10 Episodes". I said I played "5-10 updates". I don't remember if every update was a full episode or if there were bugfix updates too. More importantly, I didn't remember precise number of updates, so I wrote an estimate... . It has been a long time since, so sorry for not remembering every detail. I certainly remember the update with the cabin visit, MC fucking the lab girl, and threesome, and the next update I played just a bit and skipped through most of it (it had a pool scene and doc sex), because until that point most interactions felt the same like I described in my previous post, so I stopped. But even if I was wrong with the estimate, it doesn't mean anything. You act like I was trying to make myself look like I played through a bigger part of the game than I actually played. I thought I made myself clear, that I didn't get very far, and that this was my opinion about the part of game I played, not of all seasons and episodes.

Also I didn't like that he was a sex magnet, not the reason. Backstory explanation has nothing to do with it. It doesn't change that it's there, so it doesn't change my opinion about the MC.

And I don't know where you saw me presenting my "feelings and opinions" as facts, because I thought that me writing things like "it didn't feel like" or "my preferences" makes it obvious that the post presents my personal feelings and opinions about my experience with it. Maybe I should have written it about every single statement in the comment? That would have made it too long. That's why I wrote the statement at the end, because meaning and context of internet comments are easily misinterpreted, so I had to add it.

P.s. I don't know what "WE" in your comment represents, and what your involvement with this project is, if you are implying that everybody involved feels that way, and you represent their voice, or whatever, but what you wrote in the spoiler is something I wanted to know, and it's good that this decision was made... I very much appreciate the information, thanks. I was looking for a reason to restart playing this, and I wanted to know if MC progressed or if he's still the same.

edit: I thought that you were just a passionate fan, but I saw in a profile post that you're a co-writer
 
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Avaron1974

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I know from season 2, it said there is a point system, basically ending would depend on point, but from season 3 ep1 you have to kick off all except 1, so unless you replay the game with different decision, you are likely to miss lots of content, though i dont know yet how much it will be.
It's a date sim type, you'll only miss content for the other 2 girls but you can't have all 3 just because you'll miss out on content, that's not how relationships go nor how the story has been built.

If you want to see the other girls content you'll have to replay their routes.
 

Agrik

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I love Milfy City and DMD, yet I love TiF, Depraved Awakening etc.
In general, I’m not interested in top games, probably too old already.:confused:
Milfy City got tired of it in half an hour, from DMD it was just sick - it rolled into some kind of insanity. In AWAM, he stopped playing and supporting, after she turned from a family history into a story of blackmail and crime, having lost its atmosphere. Detective / crime is not grateful ground for such games, love does not fit into them. Remember the great ones: Sherlock Holmes, Agatha Christie, Hercule Poirot, and where is love there?
BEING A DIK added to ignore, after the first part.
You can’t be offended by people because they just want to have fun after a hard day and don’t want to solve other people's problems. To see how MC solves them, it is possible, but to strain the brain itself, why?
 
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Avaron1974

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love does not fit into them. Remember the great ones: Sherlock Holmes, Agatha Christie, Hercule Poirot, and where is love there?
Sherlock Holmes had Irene Adler, Poirot is in love with Countess Vera Rossakoff and agatha Christie was a writer, no idea why you put her in the list. She created Poirot and Miss Marple she was also married.

but to strain the brain itself, why?
Mainly because quite a few of us enjoy a good story we can get into.

If that's not for some people that's fine, there are plenty of games for them to choose from. The devs not likely to drop everything they have done just to please a few people though, are they?
 

RogueKnightUK

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Well, you wrote things based on a non-truth and assumption yourself.

I never said I played "5-10 Episodes". I said I played "5-10 updates". I don't remember if every update was a full episode or if there were bugfix updates too. More importantly, I didn't remember precise number of updates, so I wrote an estimate... . It has been a long time since, so sorry for not remembering every detail. I certainly remember the update with the cabin visit, MC fucking the lab girl, and threesome, and the next update I played just a bit and skipped through most of it (it had a pool scene and doc sex), because until that point most interactions felt the same like I described in my previous post, so I stopped. But even if I was wrong with the estimate, it doesn't mean anything. You act like I was trying to make myself look like I played through a bigger part of the game than I actually played. I thought I made myself clear, that I didn't get very far, and that this was my opinion about the part of game I played, not of all seasons and episodes.

Also I didn't like that he was a sex magnet, not the reason. Backstory explanation has nothing to do with it. It doesn't change that it's there, so it doesn't change my opinion about the MC.

And I don't know where you saw me presenting my "feelings and opinions" as facts, because I thought that me writing things like "it didn't feel like" or "my preferences" makes it obvious that the post presents my personal feelings and opinions about my experience with it. Maybe I should have written it about every single statement in the comment? That would have made it too long. That's why I wrote the statement at the end, because meaning and context of internet comments are easily misinterpreted, so I had to add it.

P.s. I don't know what "WE" in your comment represents, and what your involvement with this project is, if you are implying that the everybody involved feels that way, and you represent their voice, or whatever, but what you wrote in the spoiler is something I wanted to know, and it's good that this decision was made... I very much appreciate the information, thanks. I was looking for a reason to restart playing this, and I wanted to know if MC progressed or if he's still the same.
This is the assumption thing again.

I know what you said RE updates, so I helpfully gave you the term we use so you'd understand. Our updates are called Episodes, with the one and only exception being the time we released a remastered version of the entire Series 1, which as a one-off event is kind of irrelevant, and is after the point at which you'd stopped playing from what you said of the plot.

If you want to communicate clearly, and not have to keep asking what we call them, well, that's why I gave you the term we use 'Episodes'. Okay?

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You played at absolute most, 4 updates of any kind. As by the fifth of any kind the story had progressed considerably past the issue you were complaining about. They are big episodes, so it may have felt like 5-10, but honestly, it was around 3. You'll see for yourself when you pick up.

Second assumption is that you assume, wrongly, that when I tell you what 'we' don't like, I am also saying you are doing that thing. That's a false assumption. It was a statement, not an accusation.

If I also tell you I like eggs, I am not accusing you of being a chicken.

You made a general statement about what Devs and Writers didn't like, and I gave you a more accurate and specific actual point to work from. Nothing more than that.
 

Agrik

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Sherlock Holmes had Irene Adler, Poirot is in love with Countess Vera Rossakoff and agatha Christie was a writer, no idea why you put her in the list. She created Poirot and Miss Marple she was also married.
Yes, but this was not the focus.
Confused with Agatha Christie.
The devs not likely to drop everything they have done just to please a few people though, are they?
Nobody calls for this, just people express their opinion, which, perhaps, developers will take into account in the future. Criticism is always helpful - it makes us better. The main thing: correctly understand and accept it calmly. Nobody (I definitely don’t) said that the game was bad?
 
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sabinonet

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I just downloaded the v3.1.0 and haven't tried it yet,
and just wanted to ask if we use season 2 saves or if it's not necessary and start like a new game?
 

RogueKnightUK

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I just downloaded the v3.1.0 and haven't tried it yet,
and just wanted to ask if we use season 2 saves or if it's not necessary and start like a new game?
You need to load a save, as the points matter towards the quality of the ending you get.
 

Avaron1974

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I just downloaded the v3.1.0 and haven't tried it yet,
and just wanted to ask if we use season 2 saves or if it's not necessary and start like a new game?
Season 2 saves work. I loaded up one during the meeting of the bad boss guys.

No idea if it works as a standalone though.

Yes, but this was not the focus.
Confused with Agatha Christie.
I don't get what your argument is here. The love isn't the main focus here either, the plot is. The women are important to Jensen but they aren't the main focus of the game.

What is confusing about Agatha Christie?

She was the writer that created Hercule Poirot and Miss Marple. She wasn't a detective herself.

Nobody calls for this, just people express their opinion, which, perhaps, developers will take into account in the future. Criticism is always helpful - it makes us better. The main thing: correctly understand and accept it calmly. Nobody (I definitely don’t) said that the game was bad?
Except people did call for it.

There are a few wanting the devs to go back and redo it as a harem even though it doesn't fit any of the characters or the plot. There are also people wanting incest content even though Jensen isn't interested in that nor do the devs have any interest in adding it.

That's the problem with some people on this site. There are a few games on here that do things differently yet when told it's being done differently people keep asking the dev to change the game to suit them instead of moving on to find something that fits them better.
 
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Use S2 saves is best way forward. Not critical if you don't mind loosing some parts in Epilogue at end of series.

I just downloaded the v3.1.0 and haven't tried it yet,
and just wanted to ask if we use season 2 saves or if it's not necessary and start like a new game?
 
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Hadley

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I can't load any save at all. I don't have a fucking clue what the "istanbul meeting" is anyways.
 
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rogosh

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Not sure what happened to this "porn" game but it really hasnt had anything erotic with jensen and his ladies since season 1. Really good renders though, just was hoping for more actual sex.
 
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