VN Ren'Py Completed Returning to Mia [v1.2.0] [Inceton]

[cxx]

so nothing has changed, some like and some dislike.

 

[SDDA]

I think Grace past is just part of the type this game is, if u played the first game u can expect some hardcore things to happen.
If everyone is judged by what they did in college pretty much 90% of the Milf characters would be hated. In these type of games if your not interested in this kind of stuff just skip it and treat it as if it was not even happened.

 

[cxx]

grace dislikers don't need to ask from her past.

 

[d_pedestrian]

so nothing has changed, some like and some dislike.

that's what happens when a game tries to please two different types of audience

I think Grace past is just part of the type this game is, if u played the first game u can expect some hardcore things to happen.
If everyone is judged by what they did in college pretty much 90% of the Milf characters would be hated. In these type of games if your not interested in this kind of stuff just skip it and treat it as if it was not even happened.

90%? would you mind telling us the name of the college you graduated from? Many guys here would like to take admission there .

grace dislikers don't need to ask from her past.

that's not the problem. Read my comment above and you'll know what the issue is.

 

[cxx]

that's what happens when a game tries to please two different types of audience

quite a lot of audience likes girls and milfs (although we don't know if grace has kids) but at the sametime don't wannas hear what older woman has done.

 

[Malicre]

90%? would you mind telling us the name of the college you graduated from? Many guys here would like to take admission there .

Doesn't matter what college you go to, if your having problems hooking up with girls then that sounds like a personal problem to me.

 

[NoxLaw]

Well fuck me... I actually didn't mind Grace but after reading through the thread, I started to dislike her. You people have negative influence

 

[cxx]

just a reminder: mods don't take lightly personal fights.

 

[Qmil679]

Well fuck me... I actually didn't mind Grace but after reading through the thread, I started to dislike her. You people have negative influence

No problem my friend. We recommend ourselves for the future.

 

[cxx]

Well fuck me... I actually didn't mind Grace but after reading through the thread, I started to dislike her. You people have negative influence

so you care what she did in past?

 

[NoxLaw]

so you care what she did in past?

Well i actually didn't know what she did cause I didn't want to hear those stories so I kinda liked her but reading through the thread she apparently got gangbanged and took money for sex. I obviously didn't expect her to be a virgin but these things are a big no-no for me even if it happened in the past.

 

[cxx]

Well i actually didn't know what she did cause I didn't want to hear those stories so I kinda liked her but reading through the thread she apparently got gangbanged and took money for sex. I obviously didn't expect her to be a virgin but these things are a big no-no for me even if it happened in the past.

reasonable.

 

[hobobobb]

I thought I'd made it clear, but...

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So relax.

So I have (what I believe to be) a legitimate question about this, from the writing perspective;

What was the design philosophy that led to the creation and inclusion of this 'heavily exaggerated' past for the Grace character and why was an exaggerated depiction chosen?

To elaborate on my question;

You (or someone from the Development team) posted that this game is focused on a more romantic/relationship theme than the first game and that this title will be focused on the MC "getting the girl" "MC will be the only male", something like that (I am paraphrasing so please correct me if I am wrong).

Assuming that is true (which I do believe ), then what was the conceptual idea for creating the Grace flashback scene? At the risk of stereotyping players, it seems like content that is fairly far-afield from the typical types that the 'MC will be the only dick" crowd will enjoy seeing.

To be clear; I don't have any anger at its inclusion. I've not played the game and so I have no investment in the story. I am genuinely curious what the 'flashbacks' are supposed to add to the story and who it was targeted at (with respect to the audience). Especially since it has the proviso of being (as you say) "heavily exaggerated".

From my experience, writing to specific fetishes will always run the (high) risk of alienating many players with other fetishes especially given that many of these are diametrically opposed. For the sake of argument, let's call these Grace flashbacks 'Gangbang Scenes'. (I am in no way a fan of 'that' 3 letter fetish, but even I think it's a stretch to call them that)

So my assumption is (treating both the GB fans and the OMC fans as equally invested in the story);
Gangbang scenes will ultimately be a turn off for "Only MC" players, it's pretty much anathema to them. So by design, including them would dissuade a portion of the 'Only MC' crowd from playing the game. This is fine if your target audience is the 'Gangbang' crowd (unintentional pun ).

However, by stating that those scenes are being "exaggerated" by Grace, it comes down to the fact that she is either not telling the whole truth or flat out lying, perhaps to create jealousy in MC? In either case, since these events are 'made up by her' to one degree or another, and staying with the assumption that both fan bases care equally invested in the story, could this not dissuade the 'Gangbang' crowd (or anyone who enjoys a character of that particular type) with an "It didn't actually happen" sort of argument?

Perhaps I am reading too much into this, but I would really like to know what planning/design decisions were made in writing the scene, with the intention that it was an exaggeration of the past, and which group the scene was written for? (even if it was just for the writer)

I am curious because I enjoy a well-written game, and this content seems to be 'jarring' or 'out of place' in the context of the greater story (just my own opinion).

To be crystal clear;

- I understand that the "Grace Flashbacks" are skippable/optional content. That's irrelevant to my question.
- I fully support the Developers making THEIR game THEIR way.
- I have no 'demands' nor do I feel any kind of 'entitlements'.
- I am fine if this game is 'not for me'.
- I am indeed 'Relaxed'.
- I respect/expect people to disagree with me and that's OK.
- As I have not yet Pae/SS'd/Donated towards this title, I have zero expectations (though learning what they have planned for the future does help me decide if I want to support this).

 

[Epicnibz1]

Any android ports?

 

[d_pedestrian]

So I have (what I believe to be) a legitimate question about this, from the writing perspective;

What was the design philosophy that led to the creation and inclusion of this 'heavily exaggerated' past for the Grace character and why was an exaggerated depiction chosen?

To elaborate on my question;

You (or someone from the Development team) posted that this game is focused on a more romantic/relationship theme than the first game and that this title will be focused on the MC "getting the girl" "MC will be the only male", something like that (I am paraphrasing so please correct me if I am wrong).

Assuming that is true (which I do believe ), then what was the conceptual idea for creating the Grace flashback scene? At the risk of stereotyping players, it seems like content that is fairly far-afield from the typical types that the 'MC will be the only dick" crowd will enjoy seeing.

To be clear; I don't have any anger at its inclusion. I've not played the game and so I have no investment in the story. I am genuinely curious what the 'flashbacks' are supposed to add to the story and who it was targeted at (with respect to the audience). Especially since it has the proviso of being (as you say) "heavily exaggerated".

From my experience, writing to specific fetishes will always run the (high) risk of alienating many players with other fetishes especially given that many of these are diametrically opposed. For the sake of argument, let's call these Grace flashbacks 'Gangbang Scenes'. (I am in no way a fan of 'that' 3 letter fetish, but even I think it's a stretch to call them that)

So my assumption is (treating both the GB fans and the OMC fans as equally invested in the story);
Gangbang scenes will ultimately be a turn off for "Only MC" players, it's pretty much anathema to them. So by design, including them would dissuade a portion of the 'Only MC' crowd from playing the game. This is fine if your target audience is the 'Gangbang' crowd (unintentional pun ).

However, by stating that those scenes are being "exaggerated" by Grace, it comes down to the fact that she is either not telling the whole truth or flat out lying, perhaps to create jealousy in MC? In either case, since these events are 'made up by her' to one degree or another, and staying with the assumption that both fan bases care equally invested in the story, could this not dissuade the 'Gangbang' crowd (or anyone who enjoys a character of that particular type) with an "It didn't actually happen" sort of argument?

Perhaps I am reading too much into this, but I would really like to know what planning/design decisions were made in writing the scene, with the intention that it was an exaggeration of the past, and which group the scene was written for? (even if it was just for the writer)

I am curious because I enjoy a well-written game, and this content seems to be 'jarring' or 'out of place' in the context of the greater story (just my own opinion).

To be crystal clear;

- I understand that the "Grace Flashbacks" are skippable/optional content. That's irrelevant to my question.
- I fully support the Developers making THEIR game THEIR way.
- I have no 'demands' nor do I feel any kind of 'entitlements'.
- I am fine if this game is 'not for me'.
- I am indeed 'Relaxed'.
- I respect/expect people to disagree with me and that's OK.
- As I have not yet Pae/SS'd/Donated towards this title, I have zero expectations (though learning what they have planned for the future does help me decide if I want to support this).

The only reasons i can come up with are
1) To have sexual content in every update since MC can't fuck mia so soon.
2) To please NTR fans and since these scenes are from the past Vanilla guys can't say its NTR(That's some clever move there).
3) Grace is trying to be a cool aunt and is just flat out lying. Maybe it will come as a surprise in the coming episodes.

 

[Mortarion]

Grace can go and fuck whoever she want. Fuck if i care. The only problem i have is that since the target audience are non-NTR fans why give time to that content which many non-NTR fans will skip?

If i really want sex scenes between NPCs I'll go watch porn or play an NTR game.

You can complain about to hell and back and farther it is no NTR in this game. Don't missunderstadn me, i really dislike NTR, NTR is for me - BUT it was her past, even exaggerated, it does not matter anymore.

Your behavior is like you date a 40 year old two time single mom the first time, and accusing her for cheating on you because she has kids. Come on dude, get a life.

What is wrong with you guys? I should open a shop here to sell torches and pitchforks. Your pathetic little crusade against ntr, even if there is none, is just ridiculous.

 

[SDDA]

Dev:A mature character had several sex with others in the past and if ur interested you can listen to stories about it,or skip if not.
F95:Can't stand that sht, don't waste my time let me fck mia already.

 

[Ariostebaldo]

Oh when did I say he was or wasn't a whore?

You also know that people don't always play their characters like whores when the option is there right?

Yeah, ntr fans always come with that excuse, "the girl should fuck everybody because the MC fucks everybody". Well, not my MC, not if I have a choice!

 

[AL.d]

That still doesn't answer my question of your accusation, so when did I say he was or wasn't a whore?
I said Grace was a whore because she took money for sex. Is that wrong?
I'm sorry you have a problem with my preferences, I can't do anything about that.

I don't see anyone having a problem with yours or anyone else's preferences.

The problem is that the same 4-5 users go into almost every game thread and, not only feel the obsessive need to let everyone know about their preferences, but also expect the games to adhere to them. You don't like x thing (in this case a MILF who has fucked lots of dudes)? Fine. Go find another fucking game that doesn't have that. Posts that demand explanations (like it's owed) and thinly veiled threats like "OOOOH DEV GONNA LOSE THE AUDIENCE (meaning us 5 dudes) NOW" are both pointless and disruptive to the discussion.

It's like that spoiled brat who pouts and holds his breath to get mommy to buy that toy she refused. And we are all supposed to be adults here...

 

[rebellare]

This is a highly pedantic complaint. I know. I'm sorry. There are an awful lot of misused apostrophes in this game.

1) If you are shortening someone's name by cutting off the end, you do NOT put an apostrophe at the end. (It's just Viv, not Viv'.)
2) If you are leaving off the subject pronoun from a sentence, you do not put an apostrophe at the front. (For example, it is Can hardly wait. not 'Can hardly wait.)
3) Kinda is an informal slurred pronunciation of kind of, and it does NOT take an apostrophe at the end.

Ahem. Rant over. I will now return to my regularly scheduled smutting activities!

Are you sure about the unnecessary apostrophe when the beginning of a sentence is ommited? Example 2, I mean.