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A stepsister is not family. They have different fathers and different mothers. The fact that they temporarily live in one house does not make them a family.
Under the law you are wrong.
I believe in the completely unpatched game I believe MC and his father came along after a time.
Meaning MC and Jessica would be step-siblings since they don't genetically share a parent.
Actually the patch restores what was there originally before Patreon started cracking down.

And who deleted my last post?
 

Brannon

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Actually the patch restores what was there originally before Patreon started cracking down.
Your point being?

Whether it was the "originally intended version patreon forbid" or an afterthought is completely irrelevant.
And who deleted my last post?
Likely a moderator for violation of the rules as normal users don't have that power.

That would be a massive revelation no character should just move on from. You can't do that just like that without utterly breaking the characters and the story.
At the end of the day this is not a "Live Is Strange Psychological Test" but a porn game.
 
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Likely a moderator for violation of the rules as normal users don't have that power.
Nah there was no rule violation. The mod who did it was just being an arse they even admitted it in the message they just sent to me.
It looks different in different countries. There are countries where they can enter into a legal marriage. Especially if they have different surnames after their fathers.
Never said they couldn't enter into marriage in other countries. But it still doesn't change the fact they are family.
You can have incest without inbreeding, people always seem to equate the two.
 

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Never said they couldn't enter into marriage in other countries. But it still doesn't change the fact they are family.
You can have incest without inbreeding, people always seem to equate the two.
Children in patchwork families are counted as family for legal purposes.

However unless one parent officially adopts the child the other parent brought into the marriage the siblings legally stay stepbrother/-sister which is NOT counted as incest. And patreon - or more to the point paypal - abides by that definition.
Incest is the sexual relation between closely related members of the same family.
And stepbrother/-sister does NOT qualify.

Maybe it is different in russia, north korea and ... countries like that if the bribe to the official is to low. I don't know and I don't care.
 

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It looks different in different countries. There are countries where they can enter into a legal marriage. Especially if they have different surnames after their fathers.
Not really, in the vast majority of countries...adding marriage in makes it incest. Argue with laws and politics all you like.
 

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Not really, in the vast majority of countries...adding marriage in makes it incest. Argue with laws and politics all you like.
People wishing to marry must submit official birth certificates. Mister John Smith son of Gary an Nicole born in Nowhere City and Miss Jenny Hernandez daughter of Jesus and Maria born in Paramounains. Two complete strangers. If none of them have been adopted. And what their parents are doing now does not change the law in any way. Even if Gary is married to Jesus now.:ROFLMAO:
 

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A patch is a patch, but if you want to build it in the actual story a patch that just changes a few words here and there would not be enough. So no, that just wouldn't work through a patch.
You are moving the goalposts on us. First it was Patreon and risk of losing players who don't like incest. Now it is too difficult to patch. I find it hard to discern your actual objection to a patch here.

Allow me to make my position clear, though - I am perfectly fine with the existing patch doing what it does. If the MC is not the father of multiple people in the present timeline, I am just fine with that. I'm just saying that the patch could be altered to make the MC the father of many, and that would not break any more Patreon laws or piss off any more players than the existing patch does. Would it be difficult, perhaps, but could it be done, yes.
 

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However unless one parent officially adopts the child the other parent brought into the marriage the siblings legally stay stepbrother/-sister which is NOT counted as incest. And patreon - or more to the point paypal - abides by that definition.
Incest is the sexual relation between closely related members of the same family.
And stepbrother/-sister does NOT qualify.
And what's your point?
Sorry just because that's how it is where you live it doesn't apply everywhere which is the point I'm making.

Maybe it is different in russia, north korea and ... countries like that if the bribe to the official is to low
Trying to imply something.
 
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Brannon

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And what's your point?
Sorry just because that's how it is where you live it doesn't apply everywhere which is the point I'm making.
In roughly 90% of the countries on planet earth that is how it is ruled by law.
Unless one or both parents legally adopted the children they are NOT counted as close family for incest.

Please don't mix up "morally wrong" and "legally wrong".
Sexual relationships between step siblings are in the former but not the latter category.
Trying to imply something there whitey.
That in some countries something is legal or illegal depending on how generous the bribe is?

No, that is not implied. It is proven.
 

Brannon

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You might want to recheck that.
Please don't mix up "morally wrong" and "legally wrong".
Sexual relationships between step siblings are in the former but not the latter category.
But you are somewhat correct.
The percentage is closer to 95% depending on whether you count US states or only federal law.
Virginia has a different interpretation than the other 49 states of the USA for the record ...
 

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This entire discussion is being skewed by cultural bias, and tainted by individual point of view and perceived morality.
Personal feelings about incest, whether or not it is legal or illegal wherever you happen to be, and what is thought to be other's views on the subject will vary greatly depending on where you are and what your own life experience/education have been.

Did you know there are a number of entire cultures where incest is not a taboo?
There are cultures where people are introduced to sexual adulthood by their parents; a practice that has gone on for generations and is a fundamental part of their society. In some cultures it is other close or extended family, rather than parents, where older members teach the adolescents about sex and even give them feedback to help them improve for their future partner(s).

So how about this - If you personally have a problem with incest, or any other aspect of a particular game, novel, or other form of media, then make a conscious choice not to partake of those. If you have no problem with it, and believe that what two consenting adults do in their private lives, as long as it doesn't harm anyone else, is entirely their business, then enjoy the story and carry on.

Either way, don't presume that your opinion or point of view is the only one, or worse the "right" one.
Simply let others enjoy what they enjoy.
 

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But you are somewhat correct.
The percentage is closer to 95% depending on whether you count US states or only federal law.
Virginia has a different interpretation than the other 49 states of the USA for the record ...
I don't count the US at all it's all over the place.
But then you got countries like North Korea and South Korea where you can literally fuck your own mother, father, brother, sister etc... while socially taboo but not illegal at least back in 2004 when I was stationed there with the military, not sure if it changed since then but I doubt it.
 
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Deleted member 289409

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This entire discussion is being skewed by cultural bias, and tainted by individual point of view and perceived morality.
Personal feelings about incest, whether or not it is legal or illegal wherever you happen to be, and what is thought to be other's views on the subject will vary greatly depending on where you are and what your own life experience/education have been.

Did you know there are a number of entire cultures where incest is not a taboo?
There are cultures where people are introduced to sexual adulthood by their parents; a practice that has gone on for generations and is a fundamental part of their society. In some cultures it is other close or extended family, rather than parents, where older members teach the adolescents about sex and even give them feedback to help them improve for their future partner(s).

So how about this - If you personally have a problem with incest, or any other aspect of a particular game, novel, or other form of media, then make a conscious choice not to partake of those. If you have no problem with it, and believe that what two consenting adults do in their private lives, as long as it doesn't harm anyone else, is entirely their business, then enjoy the story and carry on.

Either way, don't presume that your opinion or point of view is the only one, or worse the "right" one.
Simply let others enjoy what they enjoy.
 

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You are moving the goalposts on us. First it was Patreon and risk of losing players who don't like incest. Now it is too difficult to patch. I find it hard to discern your actual objection to a patch here.
No, I'm not. I just thought it was obvious that a patch alone wouldn't work in that case.
 

Brannon

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No, I'm not. I just thought it was obvious that a patch alone wouldn't work in that case.
Only obvious to one person.
You are seeing him/her in the mirror on a daily basis.

I guess the rest of the denizen of this thread understand that a "mere patch" would be a tad more complex than a simple dialogue change landlady -> mom / roommate -> sister and thus a bigger download than 70kB.
Bit still relatively easy and fast.

I guess you are picturing a big change that requires a big number in new renders.
That's not the case.
 

Ozymandias037

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On the topic, I feel like in the future there's a possibility that the mc will be the father of some of the present day girls. My guess is the twins. I doubt it, but I mean it definitely is taking a sort of Back To The Future type direction
Going to interrupt this discussion of comparative morality and/or legality across cultures to bring this back and say that it won't completely surprise me if there's some crazy time paradox shit going on and MC is his own father.

Also I'm sure this has been covered already but I'm not reading 370 pages of this thread to find out. So: what's the likelihood that the mysterious dude in the past is a future version of MC?
 

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Going to interrupt this discussion of comparative morality and/or legality across cultures to bring this back and say that it won't completely surprise me if there's some crazy time paradox shit going on and MC is his own father.
Well if you go by the theories a paradox like would rupture the space-time continuum causing it to collapse in on itself destroying everything, as a contradiction that severe can't exist. Just like going back and killing your grandfather would make it to where one of your parents would never exist as well as yourself and your siblings.

that the mysterious dude in the past is a future version of MC?
I think that might actually be the MC's father IIRC his body was never found.
 
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SerHawkes

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We are probably the father to not only are selfs (Heh, we are our own daddy) but also probably some of the girls as well (twins, Kystal, etc). Who gives an honest fuck about parentage in a game such as this? If Pateron wants to take it down because of the whole time travel potental incest theory then so be it. There are other means to support the game else where.


All I'm really see and hearing is just complaining about one little issue whether or not we go Step or not.
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Lets get back to better things shall we?
 
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