Devileliet

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Feb 24, 2018
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This entire shitfest is literally people hatred for AI art, not for the changes itself, and it shows. Yes, there's some hiccups, but as with the one I replied to first, honestly, it went from meh to meh, so who cares lol.
People hate AI art because devs like these, who have enough money to hire actual artists, use it to cut corners and make money. Is the AI art of some scenes better? Yeah. Objectively so. Are they good? Fuck no. Was it, in any of the 14.000.000.003 parallel worlds a sensible thing to use shitass AI art instead of hiring artists for good replacements when the devs have been making good money from their patreon, despite not delivering anything for 2 years? You are delusional if you think "yes".
 

clelag

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Jun 16, 2018
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is there anyone that can help me with a save with alot money ? takes so long time to grind ...
Use save editor (google it, should be first on the page), and upload your save. Pretty easy to change the money parameter (and other stuff) and then download the edited save and put in the save folder of the game. Overwrite when prompted.
 

WreckMeister

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Sep 3, 2017
40
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Hi everyone,

I complied an edited save folder for version 6.1+ playthroughs. You'll need 7zip or a comparable file archiver to unzip the folder. The whole folder has to replace your game's save folder. So if you want to keep your current save folder/saves. Relocate them elsewhere before copying this edited save folder into your game files.

My folder has edited starter saves from Save Slot 2 to Save Slot Save Slot 13. I skip Save Slot 1 because that's where the game autosaves. They are edited starter saves for each origin (male/female, farmer/thief/templar/noble/soldier/wizard). The saves start in each origin's introduction; with pregnancy content on.

The saves start out with a Cheater's Gem. Which can be accessed from the player's item menu and used on the player. To increase player speed, and allow the player to skip combat from the player's special menu during combat rounds. I also added gold, valor gems, affection gems, morality gems, and one Reality Gem. The Reality Gem allows you to rename your character once. To suit your naming preference.

I also included two edited gallery saves; where the PC is in the castle before the gallery. In Save Slot 20 for femPC and Save Slot 21 for malePC. Just be aware those edited gallery saves are buggy, and can result in crashes. I used the gallery unlock switch for these saves. The base game's gallery is not 100% functional sadly.

Hopefully, that helps out people who miss the cheat function from the previous versions. And allows other people to quickly see the game's gallery. If they don't want to do a whole playthrough.
Wow is my first time what i saw a Trojan :Script/Wacatac.B!ml in a save file
 
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Xenrir

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Jun 17, 2017
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Anyone in the Discord for the game able to do a quick check and see if anyone has found the starts for the new routes & endings, yet? I've been bashing my head against the wall for a day now trying to figure out how the hell to start the Outlander one.

Anyways, on another note; I've found that combat is even more breakable in the new system than it used to be, but it takes more savescumming to effectively the snap the game cleanly in half. 4 Legendary Power Orbs in a Rare Artifact, 1-2 in your weapons depending on if you're dual wielding, and then just add a few attack boosting stat items and the game's done. Even better if you have the mark that gives 4 attacks, and the mark that gives line AoE attacks since it allows your MC to handle both bosses and trash fights effortlessly.
Not to mention since the MC has access to the perk system and trainings, you reach bloated stats far quicker than any party members. As I said in one of my posts earlier in the thread, use the Rulwe with the Dicktacles of Growth for the early game since the stat scaling there seems to still be from the old system.

Of course, this only applies if you're too lazy to add the cheat gem, like I was.
 
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The_fallen_dragon

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Fuck, does anyone remember how to unlock arcanist? I know you buy it from trainer but like the eldritch archer which I got, I don't remember what item I'm suppost to have and from where I get it
 

Flutewind

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Game Developer
Jun 5, 2021
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Fuck, does anyone remember how to unlock arcanist? I know you buy it from trainer but like the eldritch archer which I got, I don't remember what item I'm suppost to have and from where I get it
Buy with valor gems from summeredge rep shop in the conference room (whitemoon castle, same floor as your bedroom). Valor gems can be obtained by successful defence (go outside, do quests, come back to whitemoon and there will be a report whether you defended successfully or not, if yes you get valor gems), also from miniquests in the conference room in act 2, and 50 valor gems from one of the abyss bosses.
 

Sergent

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Jul 5, 2017
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At the moment, the "Final Chapter" is more like a "Step back", at least in the preservation system. Quick Save does not work, the autosave cell is unlocked again.
 

GrandPaBrowning

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Honestly I don't think it's worse at all. Almost 100% of clawyn's art was terrible and the AI replacements for it are at worst different bad, not worse.
No, I don't think we are dealing with preferences here. AI replacements got horrendous facial expressions - one of the main allure of any porn picture is just gone. I dunno about you, but I can't wanka on two doll-faced dolls fucking.
 
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GrandPaBrowning

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Anyone in the Discord for the game able to do a quick check and see if anyone has found the starts for the new routes & endings, yet? I've been bashing my head against the wall for a day now trying to figure out how the hell to start the Outlander one.

Anyways, on another note; I've found that combat is even more breakable in the new system than it used to be, but it takes more savescumming to effectively the snap the game cleanly in half. 4 Legendary Power Orbs in a Rare Artifact, 1-2 in your weapons depending on if you're dual wielding, and then just add a few attack boosting stat items and the game's done. Even better if you have the mark that gives 4 attacks, and the mark that gives line AoE attacks since it allows your MC to handle both bosses and trash fights effortlessly.
Not to mention since the MC has access to the perk system and trainings, you reach bloated stats far quicker than any party members. As I said in one of my posts earlier in the thread, use the Rulwe with the Dicktacles of Growth for the early game since the stat scaling there seems to still be from the old system.

Of course, this only applies if you're too lazy to add the cheat gem, like I was.
Well, Mayla route seems to be obvious (although I haven't tried it yet) - imprison her. A new scene they teased with her have her jailcell as background, with bookshelf she would ask you to install. So its most certainly triggers sometime after you put her there.
 

GrandPaBrowning

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Wait THAT was the original of that scene? Nah, that's gotta be an already remade version. IIRC the original one (like release original) was more in the style of that orc-prison scene. Unless I'm just tripping hard rn, then I agree on this instance that it was one of the unlucky few that got hit in the crossfire. What I meant are the ones like I mentioned the orc-prison (Or rather, prison with orcs as captives), that was one scene that I 100% remember was very... bad.

I this case yeah I agree it was a small downgrade, but unless u are highly autistic or have major adhd, that's a very negligable change tbh. Most people probably won't even notice it if they don't already know it through outside sources, because lets be real, nobody is going to look at the hand, and if so, it can look like a slime splash and the hand just ain't visible through it or something. Sad, but not the end of the world.

Overall, it hit more trash ones than it did good ones, so it's kinda alright imho. Before it was "Trash - Passable - Good", now it's only "Passable - Good", net profit.




This right here tbh. Only good Klawyn scene for example was the dream-alien thing, and that was only because the premise of it was good, not the art itself. Worst case, it made terrible scenes into "meh" or even "nice" and already "ok" scenes stayed "ok". This entire shitfest is literally people hatred for AI art, not for the changes itself, and it shows. Yes, there's some hiccups, but as with the one I replied to first, honestly, it went from meh to meh, so who cares lol.
What are you talking about? Negligable change? Extra toes, floating nipple, miscolored hand, braindead expression? They are glaring mistakes, not negligable changes!

As for whole AI debacle - nice strawman there. Like, literally ignoring every point people against AI have made. From objective mistakes pointed out in almost every AI-redrawn to the fact that people have gripes not just with AI itself, but with the fact that devs were paid, so why cut corners? Its a greedy move that makes little sense, given how they replaced existing art at random. I could've get behind their decision if their needed a ton of new art ASAP, but they used it differently. Basically putting extra effort with AI to smother efforts artists put into their art, almost all of which was better than the replacement. Basically, putting efforts into downgrading their game.

And you can check my messages here to find out I am not against AI itself and I don't find every AI image in this game bad (I like ones in Meredith sleep molestation and elven priestess scenes, honestly). And that I elaborate on my findings as to what exactly in my opinion is wrong with each AI picture I assess. I also regularly post about bugs I've found.

And I am not alone. Its not some faceless crowd of luddic AI-haters, here are a lot of people with concrete and argument-based remarks in regard to certain AI pictures as well as dev team attitude and game quality.

I, of course, can't forbid you from building strawmen, but they won't replace the arguments. And, frankly, they make your post look ridiculous. Like, after dozens of argumented takes here calling people who made them simple haters is just plain wrong.

P.S. Though I agree about the most Clawyn scenes. Its weird though. Her scene in the forest and soul eater scene are one of the best in game, yet most others are subpar. Curious discrepancy.
 
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Xenrir

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Jun 17, 2017
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Well, Mayla route seems to be obvious (although I haven't tried it yet) - imprison her. A new scene they teased with her have her jailcell as background, with bookshelf she would ask you to install. So its most certainly triggers sometime after you put her there.
Good point, I hadn't even noticed that. That does indeed make finding the Mayla route pretty obvious. The Outlander/Emek's Rest route is a right bitch to pin down the start of, on the other hand. Of course, it doesn't help that I'm the epitome of a smoothbrain and there's a very real chance I'm missing something obvious.
 

GrandPaBrowning

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Good point, I hadn't even noticed that. That does indeed make finding the Mayla route pretty obvious. The Outlander/Emek's Rest route is a right bitch to pin down the start of, on the other hand. Of course, it doesn't help that I'm the epitome of a smoothbrain and there's a very real chance I'm missing something obvious.
Well, I haven't play Emek's Rest so I can't make a specific advice here. Well, except being a nice little roomba and clean out every nook and cranny, but that's like a go-to every time you feel stuck.
 

CyberCy616

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Feb 14, 2021
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What are you talking about? Negligable change? Extra toes, floating nipple, miscolored hand, braindead expression? They are glaring mistakes, not negligable changes!

As for whole AI debacle - nice strawman there. Like, literally ignoring every point people against AI have made. From objective mistakes pointed out in almost every AI-redrawn to the fact that people have gripes not just with AI itself, but with the fact that devs were paid, so why cut corners? Its a greedy move that makes little sense, given how they replaced existing art at random. I could've get behind their decision if their needed a ton of new art ASAP, but they used it differently. Basically putting extra effort with AI to smother efforts artists put into their art, almost all of which was better than the replacement. Basically, putting efforts into downgrading their game.

And you can check my messages here to find out I am not against AI itself and I don't find every AI image in this game bad (I like ones in Meredith sleep molestation and elven priestess scenes, honestly). And that I elaborate on my findings as to what exactly in my opinion is wrong with each AI picture I assess. I also regularly post about bugs I've found.

And I am not alone. Its not some faceless crowd of luddic AI-haters, here are a lot of people with concrete and argument-based remarks in regard to certain AI pictures as well as dev team attitude and game quality.

I, of course, can't forbid you from building strawmen, but they won't replace the arguments. And, frankly, they make your post look ridiculous. Like, after dozens of argumented takes here calling people who made them simple haters is just plain wrong.

P.S. Though I agree about the most Clawyn scenes. Its weird though. Her scene in the forest and soul eater scene are one of the best in game, yet most others are subpar. Curious discrepancy.
You have to admit there are like a few people who do not care for the game and just came to shit post about AI "art" what you and most people have said fair but there are a few people.
 

Xenrir

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Jun 17, 2017
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Well, I haven't play Emek's Rest so I can't make a specific advice here. Well, except being a nice little roomba and clean out every nook and cranny, but that's like a go-to every time you feel stuck.
Amen to that. I'm definitely in full-on roomba mode right now - I've made several anchor saves that I'm testing from, because I'm not sure when the on-ramp for the route is. My first assumption is that it's right at the start of Act 3, except that you probably don't go to Cinkahn. Poking around at the end of Act 2, and the end of Act 3, which I think I've pretty firmly ruled out.
It's why I was hoping someone here or on the Discord had figured it out already, haha.
 

GrandPaBrowning

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So, here is another AI-image:
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I didn't like the original much, but that was one of the most unique artstyles in the game, and it wasn't bad. AI replacement isn't that bad, but only if you don't look closely.

Her facial expression is once again odd. What funny is that AI likes vacant neutral expressions and Beatrice is supposed to have one in this scene since she had lost her humanity. But expression aside, her face has second tongue clipping through the upper lip, which is fucking unacceptable level of mistakes. Also, her asshole gapes before fingering and her expression didn't change upon said fingering how it supposed to.

(I didn't show that there are also weird cum stains that seems to leak from the butthole, but that was an odd detail even in original image)

Though I must admit I kind like her athletic body on the first AI-picture. Shame she has another one of those weird hardy readable expressions on her face. Which is a shame, since this is probably the only time AI-usual vacant expression would have been welcomed. Instead I am not even sure what emotion her face on the first AI-pic is supposed to convey. But maybe I am a little too picky on this one.
 
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