VN Ren'Py Completed SandStorm (EraStorm Saga #1) [v2.01] [GleenX Studio]

[GleenXstudio]

So if i understand , you dont want create a game like other , with specific harem/neutral/ntr route , like that , i little walkrought can be a good idea ^^

It will be much more complicated than you think

- There are + and - for almost every choices
- And some scenes/actions does not play the same whether you have enough points or not with the girl.

If someone wants to make a walkthrough, I will help him with the numbers and thresholds. Just DM me, or on the discord in Patreon.

I personnaly think the game is more interesting without walkthrough (at least on the first run), but I can understand that some people would need a walkthrough in order to get everything, especially as I didn't make the options too obvious.

 

[gtz-god]

To sum up and close this topic :
Not netorare, but regular NTR can happen eventually on some route depending on your actions. If such scenes (none at the moment), they will be skippable.
Not harem, but you can try to romance several girls, and see how it goes . It can be possible to have some glorious playboy time at some point but for how long ? But harem ending/route, no. It would not make sense in the story I want to write, and in the relationship structure I am building.

so no harem end i got a feeling after play for 10 min that will not matter the way the story going it going be a good game and harem will mess up the story in some way but base what i seen one of us in the group is connect to the gods because the wall thing is a true thing

 

[YogSothoth1982]

I just saw the tags now, and some are wrong, at least at the moment.

So far in this update : no male domination, and it won't be a focus of the game in the future. With Maddie, better not try it anyway, not sure you will win

In this update, no NTR, certainly some in the future, but like what can happen in real life. Nothing extreme which is just there to hurt the MC. Skippable, yes for sure. Avoidable in the story, maybe not.

In fact, I plan to make some evil NTR scenes for fun as bonus/rewards scenes not directly related to the main story (that will be for v0.2/v0.3). That way, if someone doesn't want to see that, he won't have to .

I don't like NTR, for me, skipping it but having it off screen is pretty much the same as watching it. If the scene exists, even if I don't see it, it's demotivating for me to play the game.

On the other hand, I usually only play one ending, I don't really know how much potential LIs will have the game in future updates, but I suspect that I can interested in more than one. That is a problem for me, I should choose which girl I want to see the ending, and if I am interested in more than one, I will surely abandon the game (as has happened to me in others, like Intertwined) But this (only playing one route) is just a personal thing, I'm sure a lot of people like to play all or most of the routes.

At now, I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to try the game.

In any case, thanks for the game and good luck.

 

[gtz-god]

It will be much more complicated than you think

- There are + and - for almost every choices
- And some scenes/actions does not play the same whether you have enough points or not with the girl.

If someone wants to make a walkthrough, I will help him with the numbers and thresholds. Just DM me, or on the discord in Patreon.

I personnaly think the game is more interesting without walkthrough (at least on the first run), but I can understand that some people would need a walkthrough in order to get everything, especially as I didn't make the options too obvious.

If i have the .rpy, I can see what choices do what but I don't know how to post a walkthrough on f95 so it will be more for me but if you give the info to OscarSix him can make a walkthrough but i much say this him will likely add some thing that change the game because him walkthrough mostly always mod bouns but you can ask him to only do walkthrough but if i learn how to add file to f95 then i will try adding it

 

[The ArcKnight]

I'm with BlasKyau here,
I typically only play one route in a game and try to have a perfect route, getting any of the girls I'm interested in if I can't go full blown harem.

If this game makes you choose one and stick with em, I'll have to pass. Variety is the spice of life after all but I don't want to watch characters besides my MC getting down with the ladies, it just holds no interest for me, let alone my dislike of NTR. Shame as the characters look gorgeous.

Good luck with your game Dev.

 

[gtz-god]

I'm with BlasKyau here,
I typically only play one route in a game and try to have a perfect route, getting any of the girls I'm interested in if I can't go full blown harem.

If this game makes you choose one and stick with em, I'll have to pass. Variety is the spice of life after all but I don't want to watch characters besides my MC getting down with the ladies, it just holds no interest for me, let alone my dislike of NTR. Shame as the characters look gorgeous.

Good luck with your game Dev.

i sure this going be a good game even without harem and it not like him say we cant have sex with other just we can only pick one true one and i think one of the girl bisexual so there a good chance even if without harem we can still get sexy story but i think this game going be more about story and chance

 

[kiljaeden]

Looks cool. See you next year when there is more content.

 

[Nkbs]

Alright, looks.. looks nice so far, but before i can play the game at all.. i just need to know the most important thing about this game..

Is the Background music Sandstorm by Darude right? if not... well..

how you won't "Feel the beat" ?

 

[Warsteel]

This game brought to you by Darude.

 

[Deleted member 2264349]

800MB is a lot for a first episode...

 

[ArturiousDesign]

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[hobobobb]

This post is for the Dev, with the hope of giving some insight into how a selective, but active Patreon like myself thinks.

Firstly, I love your artwork.

When I first saw your artwork I thought "I might have found a new (to me) Dev worth a few € a month". Then I started reading your comments about "skippable" but not avoidable content and decided to pass.

I see the 'Skippable vs Avoidable' difference is important because I care about (as it seems you do) the story. If I didn't, I would just watch porn as opposed to playing a story-driven adult game. Being able, as a player, to craft the story outcome that I want, within the bounds of the game is a key focus when I choose who I am going to Patron. Skippable content ( and it could be argued that all content is 'skippable' by holding down Ctrl in a Python-based game) doesn't adhere to this. My point is that the difference between skippable and avoidable may be minor to some (and irrelevant to others), but it is generally very important to story-focused players.

I hope this comment is taken in a constructive manner as it was intended.

While I doubt I will continue to follow this title, I wish you all the best with your game.

A final note regarding NTR: It is one of several fetishes I avoid. However, if NTR game paths (like any other fetish I dislike) are clearly defined and avoidable (without missing 90% of the game or story) I have no problems with their inclusion.

 

[GleenXstudio]

This post is for the Dev, with the hope of giving some insight into how a selective, but active Patreon like myself thinks.

Firstly, I love your artwork.

When I first saw your artwork I thought "I might have found a new (to me) Dev worth a few € a month". Then I started reading your comments about "skippable" but not avoidable content and decided to pass.

I see the 'Skippable vs Avoidable' difference is important because I care about (as it seems you do) the story. If I didn't, I would just watch porn as opposed to playing a story-driven adult game. Being able, as a player, to craft the story outcome that I want, within the bounds of the game is a key focus when I choose who I am going to Patron. Skippable content ( and it could be argued that all content is 'skippable' by holding down Ctrl in a Python-based game) doesn't adhere to this. My point is that the difference between skippable and avoidable may be minor to some (and irrelevant to others), but it is generally very important to story-focused players.

I hope this comment is taken in a constructive manner as it was intended.

While I doubt I will continue to follow this title, I wish you all the best with your game.

A final note regarding NTR: It is one of several fetishes I avoid. However, if NTR game paths (like any other fetish I dislike) are clearly defined and avoidable (without missing 90% of the game or story) I have no problems with their inclusion.

I understand your point of view and i'm not far from it. I respect all preferences and I know that we can't please everyone.

The story is my main concern in this game, that is why I did not make it harem or vanilla, because it wouldn't fit at all the context.
I have the ideas for that story for a bunch of years, I can't even recall since when, even before I knew the existence of adult visual novels. But it was on paper, or txt files, or comics but I have no talent for drawing . With Renpy and Daz, I discovered a nice way to share this story with some hot actions which is even better. Plus I fell in love with Daz3D, so it's perfect.
I'm saying all this just to let you guys know that I'm making this game more for passion, than for the "industry", but I welcome every constructive remarks like yours and will consider them as long as it doesn't change the general storyline and atmosphere that is the core of the project.

Back to your concern.
I don't know if you read my post 41 with the spoilers, it might answer your questions.

What I find confusing is that everyone has different definitions of 'NTR' and different definitions of "avoidable".
If NTR applies only to the girl you truly decided to go for, I can confirm that you can perfectly have a complete story without NTR with 2 of the 3 girls. One of the girl is more problematic due to her situation (having a BF).

If by NTR, you mean it has to apply to every girls of the game whether you romance them or not, then no, you probably won't be able to escape all of those and I don't want to limit myself too much by doing so. So I rather say there can be NTR. (as for the skipping scene option, I totally agree with you, but it's easy to implement so I will make it for those who want)

Well, i'm starting to understand the need for a walkthrough

 

[GleenXstudio]

Alright, looks.. looks nice so far, but before i can play the game at all.. i just need to know the most important thing about this game..

Is the Background music Sandstorm by Darude right? if not... well..

how you won't "Feel the beat" ?

I wish I could ! but i'm not rich enough to pay for that licence
so you will have to go with sandstorm by da not rude

 

[DarknessDai]

so is there any plans to make Femdom in this game lol mad kinda has that vibe lol

 

[Deleted member 113137]

I understand your point of view and i'm not far from it. I respect all preferences and I know that we can't please everyone.

The story is my main concern in this game, that is why I did not make it harem or vanilla, because it wouldn't fit at all the context.
I have the ideas for that story for a bunch of years, I can't even recall since when, even before I knew the existence of adult visual novels. But it was on paper, or txt files, or comics but I have no talent for drawing . With Renpy and Daz, I discovered a nice way to share this story with some hot actions which is even better. Plus I fell in love with Daz3D, so it's perfect.
I'm saying all this just to let you guys know that I'm making this game more for passion, than for the "industry", but I welcome every constructive remarks like yours and will consider them as long as it doesn't change the general storyline and atmosphere that is the core of the project.

Back to your concern.
I don't know if you read my post 41 with the spoilers, it might answer your questions.

What I find confusing is that everyone has different definitions of 'NTR' and different definitions of "avoidable".
If NTR applies only to the girl you truly decided to go for, I can confirm that you can perfectly have a complete story without NTR with 2 of the 3 girls. One of the girl is more problematic due to her situation (having a BF).

If by NTR, you mean it has to apply to every girls of the game whether you romance them or not, then no, you probably won't be able to escape all of those and I don't want to limit myself too much by doing so. So I rather say there can be NTR. (as for the skipping scene option, I totally agree with you, but it's easy to implement so I will make it for those who want)

Well, i'm starting to understand the need for a walkthrough

I get where you coming from, i guess this type of "Story" for an Adult Game is pretty weird and rare. For most Games it's either like you can pick as many woman as you want / harem Route, or if you are only able to choose "one", they stay more like Friends but you won't have to deal with their lifes anymore... they will stay sad and single for the rest of the Game because they can't move on.

In your Game it seems like the case, if you decided for one girl, it won't stay static and what-so-ever for the other girls but rather like IRL they move on and find their love. And in that regard i've to point out, that's not even NTR, that's a pretty stupid argument people have here, because it would be like saying you swiped for three Girls on Tinder but decided for on particular one, the other 2 moved on and find also their love, that you got "NTR'd". For me it feels like the typical (rather childish) flex of people who become narrowminded when they read the NTR Tag and overinterpret too much into everything. Your NTR tag seem to really only fit to the one particular Spoiler-Girl, plus (if i understood correctly) if you don't threat the choosen one well(and in that case i guess your skippable argument comes into the play, so if you f** up your playthrough you aren't forced to see the NTR scenes) or possible optional, non-basegame related extra stuff.

 

[harsha_26]

I understand your point of view and i'm not far from it. I respect all preferences and I know that we can't please everyone.

The story is my main concern in this game, that is why I did not make it harem or vanilla, because it wouldn't fit at all the context.
I have the ideas for that story for a bunch of years, I can't even recall since when, even before I knew the existence of adult visual novels. But it was on paper, or txt files, or comics but I have no talent for drawing . With Renpy and Daz, I discovered a nice way to share this story with some hot actions which is even better. Plus I fell in love with Daz3D, so it's perfect.
I'm saying all this just to let you guys know that I'm making this game more for passion, than for the "industry", but I welcome every constructive remarks like yours and will consider them as long as it doesn't change the general storyline and atmosphere that is the core of the project.

Back to your concern.
I don't know if you read my post 41 with the spoilers, it might answer your questions.

What I find confusing is that everyone has different definitions of 'NTR' and different definitions of "avoidable".
If NTR applies only to the girl you truly decided to go for, I can confirm that you can perfectly have a complete story without NTR with 2 of the 3 girls. One of the girl is more problematic due to her situation (having a BF).

If by NTR, you mean it has to apply to every girls of the game whether you romance them or not, then no, you probably won't be able to escape all of those and I don't want to limit myself too much by doing so. So I rather say there can be NTR. (as for the skipping scene option, I totally agree with you, but it's easy to implement so I will make it for those who want)

Well, i'm starting to understand the need for a walkthrough

As a hardcore Non-NTR fan who written many comments against NTR scenes in adult games in f95zone, i'm OKAY with your game. Because, As you said, the Main LIs are only three girls. In which, 2 girls won't have NTRish. And the third girl will have NTRish because she have boyfriend. So, it means, I have to steal her from her boyfriend. In a way, it's Netori (reverse NTR) for me. And I'm a fan of stealing girls. So, I can understand there might be scenes with her boyfriend because of their already established relationship at initial stage, but if we want to steal her, We will minimize those scenes gradually & make her our own. Is that what are you trying to explain? Then, no problem.

As for side girls NTRish, lets see how it goes. But, you said you are planning to do some evil NTR scenes as bonus/non-canon. But I hope you make some scenes with MC in the main game as "hardcore, male dominated" way, so that we, the non-ntr fans, will also able to enjoy the non-vanilla stuff. Just because we don't like NTR, doesn't mean we are against hardcore, rough sex.

 

[FAP369ZONE]

There is one missing image after you talk to julian to stay and wait then go after rion.

 

[GleenXstudio]

There are one missing image after you talk to julian to stay and wait then go after rion.

Noted. Thanks

 

[kiljaeden]

Dev, please don't listen to every random whiner here. Everything can be called ntr these days. You even added a skip option. Some of these guys here will never be satisfied until every single game is MC screwing all females even his family members. Every female need to worship the MC. The most unrealistic shit ever.