- Jun 11, 2017
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I mean you've just described like half of all porn games. Breaking high status women is a pretty common element of everything sexual. Might as well point out how unrealistic it is for female bosses to have sex with male subordinates on Naughty America. That's the point.
- Sep 18, 2017
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i wish there will be an ending where we dominate valantine or at least a good one where we win not just run away or if you want her to win so much at least make an ending where she love him and they are on equal terms
Played the game. I have to say really disappointed with the endings. Apparently the prisoner is just so amazing that no matter what option we pick we cannot get the best of her. Absolutely ridiculous. Hopefully the creator's next game will have more options than this.
Apparently it is so hard for 2 armed men and one big orc to kill a naked prisoner armed with a dagger....The Dev treating Carmen as if she is Gregor Clegane and Tywin Lannister fused into one...
- Jun 26, 2018
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Unfortunately she doesn't seem to be the type to love someone... maybe she was capable of that sometime in the past but don't think Roman can do anything to bring that part of her back in the time he has with her.
- Sep 19, 2017
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Just a regular Mary Sue mixed with "strong female character" that actually is a man with tits.
Entertaining for us, yes, but Carmen is worth a lot more alive than she is dead. They want her alive.Tbh I would've done it when she was "held captive" trying to play mind games in the basement lol Watching her still talk shit while she bled out slow would've been very entertaining.
If they did want to kill her (I've covered why they don't really want to) then they could leave her body in the watchhouse. It might tie back to their employer but it won't tie back to them, much less risky than going somewhere they might be seen.
Yup. We've got three epilogues out already, and we're releasing more at a rate of about two a month. We host polls for our Officers ($10+ patrons) where they vote on which epilogues they want to see most. Currently there's the Crow's Knight epilogue (wherein Carmen entertains guests at her home by having Crow fuck a tied up Roman), the Commander epilogue (where Roman fucks his harem, elf is present), and the Broken Crow epilogue (Carmen humiliates Crow by having her fucked during a negotiation).having no big sex scene for each epilogue makes it feel kinda empty. i guess such will be added with the next updates so i advise for those who have not played yet to wait for them. or become a patreon
i really wanted an ending where Roman becomes Carmen's favorite toy. now you are eitherand a scene where we see how good of a pet Carmen is to her Queen.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.
Polls haven't closed yet, but the next pair of epilogues looks to be Queen Anastasia domming Roman and Carmen, and Roman and Crow being wholesome in Hythe.
We're still releasing epilogues, aiming for two per month.
Thank you! Showing how Roman and Glasha met would be... Fun. I'll have to talk to Duski about that one. I agree about Carmen. We very deliberately set up the game so that nobody wants anyone dead at the start. Carmen wants information, Roman and Markus want a reward, Glasha is there as a favour to Roman, and Crow isn't a killer. It let us have a lot more fun with the characters than we could have done if they all hated each other. I think if we return to Sanguine Rose in a later project, we'll go for something similar. We had a jokey suggestion on our Discord a while back to create a tabletop setting involving Carmen's home, and I genuinely think a one night heist game in Carmen's seat of power could be a lot of fun. You'd have to manipulate your way past Carmen's slaves, her Officers, her 'students', and maybe even the mad woman herself. And of course, if you're caught you wouldn't be killed but you'd certainly be used for someone else's pleasure.
If you're talking about the ending where Carmen burns down the watchhouse, only Glasha is in any position to fight by the time shit goes down, and she's drugged. In almost every other path Carmen is unarmed but the gang have no reason to kill her. Alive she's one of the most valuable people on the continent, dead she is a corpse worth basically nothing.
You're right. Carmen's had an unusual upbringing and it'll take more than 3 days with Roman to change that. In some of the endings she is interested in him though. Roman is pretty capable for someone with very little training or learning, Carmen wants to see what he can become if he had the opportunity. The Commander epilogue goes into this a bit. Essentially, Carmen isn't going to fall for someone who doesn't become her equal. Roman isn't there, yet, but he could get there eventually.
- Jun 26, 2018
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I tried my best to scavenge through the various outcomes of available decisions to see if there was a way to outsmart her since I figured out that would be the only way to truly impress someone like her maybe even irritate her by outmaneuvering her thus making her show some real emotions, but never found a truly satisfying way to build any kind of relationship that would be genuinely meaningful from Carmen's perspective.
You'd think people on a site all about porn games would be able to better understand and maybe even relate to a character like Carmen. She's definitely been through some shit in her early life, Otherwise she wouldn't be so easily acclimated to her situation, she does mention having been a prisoner several times before. Also she isn't completely helpless physically. A good old All-rounder.
I was thinking more along the lines of making the body disappear under the cover of night before fleeing to buy more time. So that who ever comes looking for her isn't sure if they ought to keep looking for Carmen or instead focus on hunting the ones that killed her. The less information your enemies have the greater your advantage and 4 mercs would need all the advantages they can get when on the run from a Queen's army.
Of Course the 4 mercs would have to be capable enough to make sure no one is already watching them when they attempt something like that. There's all sorts of gnarly ends Carmen's corpse could meet on their way bet there's some predators around the forest, maybe a lake or just an endless sea of snow... though they'd have to spend some time digging.
Anyways Even though Carmen got frustrating some times I am glad she doesn't end up dead. She is a very impressive character.
She's present for another sex scene but she doesn't participate. Glasha is, unfortunately, smart enough not to want to fuck on the job.
A lot of people love Carmen as a character. As I've said a few times now, different strokes for different folks. The game is tagged "female domination", which involves a woman being dominating, so I'm not sure what you expected. It's unfortunate that you didn't enjoy the game, but it sounds like the only way you would have would have been if we made Carmen a paper tiger who crumbles under the first show of force. If that's what you want, I'd recommend playing games tagged "male domination".
The whole Mary Sue thing doesn't make a great deal of sense to me either. She's been trained almost her whole life by some of the most talented people on the continent, while Roman is barely above a foot soldier. It makes sense that Roman would be at a disadvantage. Even then, she's not battering down doors with her bare fists. Nothing she does is outside the realm of what a very well trained person could do. Her approach is pretty similar to Judo, she uses her opponent's weight against them, whether its physically, like tripping Roman up, or mentally, by convincing people that they can get what they want by siding with her.
I'm trying to see where you're coming from, but it seems to me like you're upset at the basic premise of a dominating female character, rather than the way we went about doing it. That's fine, but I don't watch lesbian porn then complain about a lack of dick. Games about female domination have dominating females. We can't please everyone.
Thanks! If you're playing the public version (3.0.2) you might have encountered one route which says it's not complete yet and sends you back. That route is the final ending and is the closest one to "outsmart her since I figured out that would be the only way to truly impress someone like her". I won't spoil it, but it's the one I'd personally most like to put an epilogue to.
A lot of people love the charactes of "twilight", and they are crap. It doesn´t mean anything. And Running into bad conclusions about me because I don´t like your character is not cool, man. Make Carmen a real woman, even a dominant one, and I will love her, as I love, for example, Ripley of Alien and Aliens. She behaves as a woman, has the streng of a woman, has the motivations of a woman... And yes, she kick the ass of an alien moster. But your Carmen is a man with tits. She behaves as a man, doesn´t have the motivations of a real woman at all, thinks as a man (not a real man, a cliche man of one of those macho-movies of the 80´s), has the pyshical streng of a man... Yeah, she has been draw as a woman as she could have been drawn as any other thing. ... Face it, she´s not a woman at all. But don´t worry, most of the action movies with women of Hollywood right now have the same problem. It's the stupid stereotype of the "strong female character" that is not a woman at all, as the "strong male characters" of the 80´s from which she comes are not men at all. About that of "she has been trained"... Well, all the Mary Sues have been trained somehow. Simply, nobody is soo good in real life, even being trained.
So it was just a three day affair? That's a shame. I'll be absolutely looking forward to the next game - the art alone was enough to convince me, and the writing was extra tasty icing on the cake.
About the problems of the game - I think I have made myself pretty clear (and others seem to be pointing out as well) - roleplaying as Roman sucked. As a player, I felt like I had very little narrative agency or choices in the game - especially when you have a character like Carmen, who spends quite a lot of pointing out for me to see.
I don't hate Carmen (nobody who likes strong women should or would), but I do think that the game did her bit of a disservice. By hobbling Roman's choices, you kind of hobbled as well. Sometimes it feels like she's an adult in kindergarten - she has a impervious aura; but the narrative enforces it by never letting anyone actually question it - that makes it cheap.
Once again, I'm not complaining about the characters, or writing. Carmen is Carmen, and Roman is Roman. Fine. In that case, I am upset with the presentation with the game. If this game, with no changes in content whatsoever -
1) Was a kinetic novel - I'd have no problems, because there are no choices, and I'd happily enjoy it to the end.
2) Presented it as a third person choice story -
Instead of 'I asked Glasha to come down', if there was 'Roman asked Glasha to come down' - I'd be still be okay with it, because, once again, I'm not the guy.
3) Presented it from the view of a character with agency (Carmen) -
I think the game would be much better for it; with minor switches to Roman from time to time, it could easily work.
Anyways, I don't have problem with femdom and maledom. I say this so that you don't dismiss the issue with this game as just bitching or whatever.
My problem is with the roleplay - I am the stand-in for Roman in this game. It is not Roman who makes stupid decisions or is led into Carmen's schemes, it's ne. Except that I am not that stupid, and there is a disconnect between the reality that is presented and that I want - which makes it unpleasant.
Even if all the roads are supposed to Rome (being dominated), it's too overt. The whole thing seems like a stage play sometimes - now you'll say this, and she'll say that. Part of the problem is the good writing - when everything seems to have depth, you easily notice the shallow choices.
Well, I guess I ranted a bit more again. Thanks for the great game, and best of luck for your next project.
About the problems of the game - I think I have made myself pretty clear (and others seem to be pointing out as well) - roleplaying as Roman sucked. As a player, I felt like I had very little narrative agency or choices in the game - especially when you have a character like Carmen, who spends quite a lot of pointing out for me to see.
I don't hate Carmen (nobody who likes strong women should or would), but I do think that the game did her bit of a disservice. By hobbling Roman's choices, you kind of hobbled as well. Sometimes it feels like she's an adult in kindergarten - she has a impervious aura; but the narrative enforces it by never letting anyone actually question it - that makes it cheap.
Once again, I'm not complaining about the characters, or writing. Carmen is Carmen, and Roman is Roman. Fine. In that case, I am upset with the presentation with the game. If this game, with no changes in content whatsoever -
1) Was a kinetic novel - I'd have no problems, because there are no choices, and I'd happily enjoy it to the end.
2) Presented it as a third person choice story -
Instead of 'I asked Glasha to come down', if there was 'Roman asked Glasha to come down' - I'd be still be okay with it, because, once again, I'm not the guy.
3) Presented it from the view of a character with agency (Carmen) -
I think the game would be much better for it; with minor switches to Roman from time to time, it could easily work.
Anyways, I don't have problem with femdom and maledom. I say this so that you don't dismiss the issue with this game as just bitching or whatever.
My problem is with the roleplay - I am the stand-in for Roman in this game. It is not Roman who makes stupid decisions or is led into Carmen's schemes, it's ne. Except that I am not that stupid, and there is a disconnect between the reality that is presented and that I want - which makes it unpleasant.
Even if all the roads are supposed to Rome (being dominated), it's too overt. The whole thing seems like a stage play sometimes - now you'll say this, and she'll say that. Part of the problem is the good writing - when everything seems to have depth, you easily notice the shallow choices.
Well, I guess I ranted a bit more again. Thanks for the great game, and best of luck for your next project.
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Ah you mean the one in the bar? The other option? Sad man. I love muscular women, especially strong ones with exotic hair and stuff.
Yeah, completely agree. Sanguine Rose seems to be a game about Carmen, but from the PoV of Roman. Which is weird, because usually the PoV character is the main character.
The three day thing was pretty disappointing as well. However, games take a lot of time and effort to make so I don't fault someone for trying to make a short but exciting game. And the game is great. The artwork is radically different from the other stuff you can find here. It's not shitty DAZ art, not shitty 2D art.
Furthermore, kudos to Dusky and team for finally making a game with orcs in it that isn't also a disgusting bestiality/monster infested rape fest. We need more games with fantasy type races (elves, orcs, etc) that are more "mainstream" porn.
that the point she was impressed with him and form what i have seen in the ending where he help her roman is smart so an ending where she is in love him could happen if the author of the game wish it can make he will just have to add more choices and content they dont have to be too much i real hope it can happen it will be a great ending to a great game if it does.
This game has some of the most gorgeous art. I hope there is enough work and funding to keep Duski fully employed and compensated for creating amazing erotica.
- Jan 24, 2019
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The art looks super cool. At first I though that she is a vampire due to the name of the game like Sanguine Rose in my dark past memory was a bit conected to vampires and so. But its no problem for me. I like boobs so much that it doesnt matter if she is vamp or not.