VN Ren'Py Abandoned Sanguis et Imperium [v0.2] [Helheim]

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bamboomrunescape

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The renders and the incest tag make me excited for when this game is finished. 2030 here we come, I'll be waiting.
 

jowishg

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Yea you don't remember the Sarah and Bradley scene? Where MC gets the femdom hand job?

Sarah is clearly set up as the primary LI before that scene,and according to this sites rule....that gets a NTR tag.
You should play the latest chapters then, that was in chapter 1, MC got a huge character development since then ;)
 
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laeg

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You should play the latest chapters then, that was in chapter 1, MC got a huge character development since then ;)
unfortunately i know from first experience about this... saw potentional game with NTR tag, when developer saied that he changed NTR to be avoidable than i saw my slave to suck other cock and need few days to forget it :D so dont be to hard with him
 

Larry2000

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unfortunately i know from first experience about this... saw potentional game with NTR tag, when developer saied that he changed NTR to be avoidable than i saw my slave to suck other cock and need few days to forget it :D so dont be to hard with him
YO!!! I've had that happen too! I thought i was the only one that got cucked by the DEV. What game was it for you? For me it was Culture Shock, the Dev's code was apparently garbage cause I got pushed into the NTR route even though I was on the supposed "Alpha route" (lets be honest, that game has an alpha route like my ass is hairless). One thing I will say though, I don't think I got it as bad as you though.

RIP my friend.
 

mofonistik

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So by this defintion


Sure. So by this definition, a game with a chad protagonist who looks to cuck a bunch of husbands by getting with their wives, is an ntr game if it shows hubby and wife fucking at any point. I mean the sensitive psyche of the player controlling the chad might get hurt and evoke some jealousy... Despite controlling the character who will get to cuck said husbands.

Or in an incest game, if daddy and mommy are shown to fuck, like married people are supposed to do...are they cucking their son in an ntr game?

Japanese people who coined the term, long before wegs were a thing, would be having a stroke right now.
In real life, how often is a chad who cucks a bunch of husbands going to watch the wives fuck their husbands first?
 
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In real life, how often is a chad who cucks a bunch of husbands going to watch the wives fuck their husbands first?
I don't know what each chad who cucks someone irl does. What I do know though, is that you need better reading comprehension skills. As a I never commented on real life but on porn game situations instead. Specifically on how a tag definition doesn't work because it can stretch to include all that.

Now, if you can't even make the distinction between rl and video games, you probably have more issues than just reading comprehension.
 

c3p0

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Ayhsel c3p0

Not sure if will be your thing..but you huys caught this yet?
Don't now yet either. Somehow the introduce give me the feeling of "Interview with a vampire". I do think that this game don't catch my interest as much as the other one, but I will give it a try. Thanks anyway.
 
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mofonistik

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I don't know what each chad who cucks someone irl does. What I do know though, is that you need better reading comprehension skills. As a I never commented on real life but on porn game situations instead. Specifically on how a tag definition doesn't work because it can stretch to include all that.

Now, if you can't even make the distinction between rl and video games, you probably have more issues than just reading comprehension.
No need for personal attacks because you happened to make a weak example that didn't make too much sense before.
 
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As a history buff, I immediately recognized at the end of the current release (v1.1.1) what appeared to be the historical personalities. Lucretia and Cesare are most likely the infamous and . Their father was (Rodrigo Borgia) and they all belonged to the notorious that were so polarizing during the Alexander VI's papal tenure.

Lucrezia Borgia was often cast as a femme fatale, as she was accused of incest, poisoning, and murder, though none of these accusations have any historical basis and were largely originated by Borgia's enemies.

Pope Alexander VI was also accused of practicing nepotism (meaning the favoritism given to his relatives concerning the granting of lands, offices, titles, and so on) and of having allegedly hosted orgies at his papal palace in which his children (Lucrezia and Cesare) were even said to be part of (hence the charges of incest). However, nepotism were not exclusive to the House of Borgia nor was it unusual. In fact, it was a common practice as other families also did this when one of their members occupied the papal throne during the Renaissance period. This would be a recurring problem that lasted until a papal bull, binding on future popes, were issued in 1692 that finally outlawed this practice permanently. As for the alleged orgies, obviously, such accusation should be taken with a grain of salt and are most likely originated by a hostile source.

Cesare Borgia fared no better, either, in terms of reputation as he was also accused of poisoning, murders, corruption, so on.

It would be interesting to see how this VN will represent the Italian Renaissance politics full of cunning and intrigues.


I should point out that, in the description given for this VN, the Sanguis et Imperium claimed to be set in medieval time. In fact, the years given in-game are actually part of what the scholars called the . The Early Modern period are conventionally dated as between 1453 (the year the city of Constaninople fell) and 1789 (the year when the French Revolution broke out).

Of course, there is no such thing as a clean break at any point of history as some characteristics of the Early Modern period paradoxically remained medieval to some extent depending on locations, especially in the first half of this period. For example, economically and politically, while the feudalism had largely died out rather quickly in the British Isles, that system persisted to various extents on most of the European continent, especially in southern and eastern regions at least until the French Revolution and much later depending on which country it was in (Russia was the last remaining European country to legally abolish serfdom in its territories in 1861).

Anyway, I digress but I thought I would like to point out that the period the Sanguis et Imperium is set in is in fact a (long) transition between medieval era and the modern era, rather than being strictly set in medieval period alone. If anything, it was a post-medieval society at the time. Quite frankly, it was a time of confusion because of the transition, a conflict between the old society that remained there to some extent but were decaying and the new society that was being gradually erected (ha I said erected :ROFLMAO:) in its place. It would be interesting to see if some aspects of that conflict were to show in future versions of Sanguis et Imperium and how they impacted their characters.
 

Helheim.

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As a history buff, I immediately recognized at the end of the current release (v1.1.1) what appeared to be the historical personalities. Lucretia and Cesare are most likely the infamous and . Their father was (Rodrigo Borgia) and they all belonged to the notorious that were so polarizing during the Alexander VI's papal tenure.

Lucrezia Borgia was often cast as a femme fatale, as she was accused of incest, poisoning, and murder, though none of these accusations have any historical basis and were largely originated by Borgia's enemies.

Pope Alexander VI was also accused of practicing nepotism (meaning the favoritism given to his relatives concerning the granting of lands, offices, titles, and so on) and of having allegedly hosted orgies at his papal palace in which his children (Lucrezia and Cesare) were even said to be part of (hence the charges of incest). However, nepotism were not exclusive to the House of Borgia nor was it unusual. In fact, it was a common practice as other families also did this when one of their members occupied the papal throne during the Renaissance period. This would be a recurring problem that lasted until a papal bull, binding on future popes, were issued in 1692 that finally outlawed this practice permanently. As for the alleged orgies, obviously, such accusation should be taken with a grain of salt and are most likely originated by a hostile source.

Cesare Borgia fared no better, either, in terms of reputation as he was also accused of poisoning, murders, corruption, so on.

It would be interesting to see how this VN will represent the Italian Renaissance politics full of cunning and intrigues.


I should point out that, in the description given for this VN, the Sanguis et Imperium claimed to be set in medieval time. In fact, the years given in-game are actually part of what the scholars called the . The Early Modern period are conventionally dated as between 1453 (the year the city of Constaninople fell) and 1789 (the year when the French Revolution broke out).

Of course, there is no such thing as a clean break at any point of history as some characteristics of the Early Modern period paradoxically remained medieval to some extent depending on locations, especially in the first half of this period. For example, economically and politically, while the feudalism had largely died out rather quickly in the British Isles, that system persisted to various extents on most of the European continent, especially in southern and eastern regions at least until the French Revolution and much later depending on which country it was in (Russia was the last remaining European country to legally abolish serfdom in its territories in 1861).

Anyway, I digress but I thought I would like to point out that the period the Sanguis et Imperium is set in is in fact a (long) transition between medieval era and the modern era, rather than being strictly set in medieval period alone. If anything, it was a post-medieval society at the time. Quite frankly, it was a time of confusion because of the transition, a conflict between the old society that remained there to some extent but were decaying and the new society that was being gradually erected (ha I said erected :ROFLMAO:) in its place. It would be interesting to see if some aspects of that conflict were to show in future versions of Sanguis et Imperium and how they impacted their characters.
Yep, you're right in everything. I changed long time ago the description in my patreon and itch.io, and asked to be changed in the OP, but they didn't do it or perhaps they forgot to do it.
 
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Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who instantly recognized the Borgias Robert Monotoli :). All it took was Lucrezia's name lol. I am fascinated to see what you do with them Helheim. ! They're a family ripe for all sorts of debauchery and dark intrigue - have you heard of the , for example? Might be cool to attend... but truly, your vision seems stellar so far so stick to your plan. This was a really interesting, artistic game, really great work!
 
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Helheim.

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Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who instantly recognized the Borgias Robert Monotoli :). All it took was Lucrezia's name lol. I am fascinated to see what you do with them Helheim. ! They're a family ripe for all sorts of debauchery and dark intrigue - have you heard of the , for example? Might be cool to attend... but truly, your vision seems stellar so far so stick to your plan. This was a really interesting, artistic game, really great work!
Thank you so much for your words. Yes that Banquet is on my plans. I just hope I don't upset people when certain historical conditions start to vary (inaccurate dates or inaccurate characters - or lack of them) because they need to be modified to fit in with the fiction of the story, since I'm not trying to make a documentary of the lies of the Borgia's enemies at that time.
 
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