Well for me, I liked the idea of corrupting a girl slowly, first getting to know the girls, then the raping and blackmailing and the threesomes, and harem. Art is spectacular with good, not too crazy proportions, tons of content, even the music is kinda good.
I understand the appeal but i find that the main character relies too much on luck.
Finding the blackmail material by chance(the fact she outright say what her mother did) finding items(that nobody reports missing), no camera's or people finding out what he did(seriously even if she would not stab him what is stopping her from informing the police? rape is a serious crime) An empty club room for his breaking, etc.
Nothing feels earned.
It could have been so much better if for example you had to plan the rape/kidnapping/druging/etc.
If you had the risk of getting caught.
I honestly don't see why this game is praised when it is just an other hentai movie.
I disagree with your arguments so much that I considered not answering because it looked just like bait/shitposting (especially since these are the only posts this account has made). But I'll not dismiss you like that thus will offer my sincere opinions.
First, what the fuck do you even mean by it being "like an hentai movie"? Broken English aside, saying that to me is like complaining that a book you're reading is like a movie or something. It says nothing.
I can't even figure out if you are complaining about lack of interactivity or about the tone/writing itself. If it's the later, well obviously a japanese porn game follows japanese porn genre and writing conventions. I don't know what else to say. What a Visual Novel has over hentai anime is its lenght, and its art quality and consistency (as most hentai anime are very poorly made), and it has voice acting and, again, lenght, when compared to a hentai manga. That's the appeal of the medium, if you don't like Visual Novels then you won't like this game but then I'm puzzled as to why you even bothered.
Also while this game does fall in the low interactivity side, I think you are exaggerating how non-interactive it is. From your posts it seems you got pissed and uninstalled at the beginning of one of the paths so it's not surprising you don't know it, but there are chances of getting caught, and the order you chose to make things and progress the game do impact which endings you will get, plus to get the "golden ending" you have to use some time management in order to do all scenes before you run out of time. Not terribly interactive but now what I would call "watching a movie" either.
One thing you are absolutely correct, there is no mind control in this game. I understand your disappointment if you went in expecting that, this game has been mistagged for whatever reason and apparently no one bothered to fix it.
I agree there could be more planning going into the protagonist's actions, he mostly acts on impulse, and he is careless. To be bothered by that or not is just a matter of taste so I can't really say anything other than it doesn't bother me.
As for why the girls don't report him or expose his crimes, well, that's due to some Japanese culture things that get exaggerated for the sake of fantasy/porn. In Japan people will often try to avoid burdening others/society at large with their problems, and making big scandals is frowned upon. While the extents it goes in rape porn like this are exaggerated, in real life Japan there are still issues like the government needing campaigns incentivating people to report train molesters, or making women-only wagons, because they simply wouldn't report said harassment. So the scenarios games like this present, while over the top, won't completely shatter the suspension of disbelief of an audience used to that as it sometimes does with people from the west.
Also as pointed above, they do fight back once they regain their composture, and try to plot against the protagonist. And if you mess up keeping tabs on their plans, you will get busted.
But yeah it does fall back on mindbreak cliches like "women can't win against their lust" and etc, and if you're not a fan of this kind of corruption I guess there's nothing much to be had here other than the good art.
Yikes. Poor bastard. Now that really is a bad ending.
Glad I avoided it. Though now I'm curious. Guess it's time to start the game up again. :evilsmile:
I disagree with your arguments so much that I considered not answering because it looked just like bait/shitposting (especially since these are the only posts this account has made). But I'll not dismiss you like that thus will offer my sincere opinions.
First, what the fuck do you even mean by it being "like an hentai movie"? Broken English aside, saying that to me is like complaining that a book you're reading is like a movie or something. It says nothing.
I can't even figure out if you are complaining about lack of interactivity or about the tone/writing itself. If it's the later, well obviously a japanese porn game follows japanese porn genre and writing conventions. I don't know what else to say. What a Visual Novel has over hentai anime is its lenght, and its art quality and consistency (as most hentai anime are very poorly made), and it has voice acting and, again, lenght, when compared to a hentai manga. That's the appeal of the medium, if you don't like Visual Novels then you won't like this game but then I'm puzzled as to why you even bothered.
Also while this game does fall in the low interactivity side, I think you are exaggerating how non-interactive it is. From your posts it seems you got pissed and uninstalled at the beginning of one of the paths so it's not surprising you don't know it, but there are chances of getting caught, and the order you chose to make things and progress the game do impact which endings you will get, plus to get the "golden ending" you have to use some time management in order to do all scenes before you run out of time. Not terribly interactive but now what I would call "watching a movie" either.
One thing you are absolutely correct, there is no mind control in this game. I understand your disappointment if you went in expecting that, this game has been mistagged for whatever reason and apparently no one bothered to fix it.
I agree there could be more planning going into the protagonist's actions, he mostly acts on impulse, and he is careless. To be bothered by that or not is just a matter of taste so I can't really say anything other than it doesn't bother me.
As for why the girls don't report him or expose his crimes, well, that's due to some Japanese culture things that get exaggerated for the sake of fantasy/porn. In Japan people will often try to avoid burdening others/society at large with their problems, and making big scandals is frowned upon. While the extents it goes in rape porn like this are exaggerated, in real life Japan there are still issues like the government needing campaigns incentivating people to report train molesters, or making women-only wagons, because they simply wouldn't report said harassment. So the scenarios games like this present, while over the top, won't completely shatter the suspension of disbelief of an audience used to that as it sometimes does with people from the west.
Also as pointed above, they do fight back once they regain their composture, and try to plot against the protagonist. And if you mess up keeping tabs on their plans, you will get busted.
But yeah it does fall back on mindbreak cliches like "women can't win against their lust" and etc, and if you're not a fan of this kind of corruption I guess there's nothing much to be had here other than the good art.
I ment no offense.
I was merely trying to find out why the game gets so much praise.
The game seemed to be praised as the second coming of christ despite it uses the same story i have seen in every hentai movie i watched.
I did indeed quit during one path due to horrible story(i really don't like stories that rely on luck)
I thought i was meaby doing something wrong but your post comfirmed it just isnt a game for me.
Thanks.
I ment no offense.
I was merely trying to find out why the game gets so much praise.
The game seemed to be praised as the second coming of christ despite it uses the same story i have seen in every hentai movie i watched.
I did indeed quit during one path due to horrible story(i really don't like stories that rely on luck)
I thought i was meaby doing something wrong but your post comfirmed it just isnt a game for me.
Thanks.
I understand the appeal but i find that the main character relies too much on luck.
Finding the blackmail material by chance(the fact she outright say what her mother did) finding items(that nobody reports missing), no camera's or people finding out what he did(seriously even if she would not stab him what is stopping her from informing the police? rape is a serious crime) An empty club room for his breaking, etc.
Nothing feels earned.
It could have been so much better if for example you had to plan the rape/kidnapping/druging/etc.
If you had the risk of getting caught.
I honestly don't see why this game is praised when it is just an other hentai movie.
Well yeah, I'm not saying this game had Oscar worthy writing or anything. You typically need to apply a big suspension of belief to Japanese nukige as they often just consists of plot conveniences with female characters making really bad calls. It's all fantasy really. A lot of porno games in general don't make too much sense. Also I don't like anime hentai personally despite being a horny bastard. I like visual novel/games better since it felt more like I'm in charge of whatever is happening than being just a viewer.
I ment no offense.
I was merely trying to find out why the game gets so much praise.
The game seemed to be praised as the second coming of christ despite it uses the same story i have seen in every hentai movie i watched.
I did indeed quit during one path due to horrible story(i really don't like stories that rely on luck)
I thought i was meaby doing something wrong but your post comfirmed it just isnt a game for me.
Thanks.
A reason this game is so praised is because of the great art and voice acting. Even the soundtrack is good, that is often neglected in porn games.
Also not all hentai have this kind of story, but yeah, if you specifically looked for mindbreak/corruption, that's pretty much what you'll get most of the time, what makes this game stand out is how well executed it is and how much content it has.
Also bear in mind few games of this genre with similar quality are translated, so it's reception is even more positive.
Well yeah, I'm not saying this game had Oscar worthy writing or anything. You typically need to apply a big suspension of belief to Japanese nukige as they often just consists of plot conveniences with female characters making really bad calls. It's all fantasy really. A lot of porno games in general don't make too much sense. Also I don't like anime hentai personally despite being a horny bastard. I like visual novel/games better since it felt more like I'm in charge of whatever is happening than being just a viewer.
Same, hentai anime are often so poorly drawn and animated. And most of the ones that catch my eye are adaptations from manga or eroge anyway, so it's better to just go straight for the source material. which often has much better and more consistent art.
A reason this game is so praised is because of the great art and voice acting. Even the soundtrack is good, that is often neglected in porn games.
Also not all hentai have this kind of story, but yeah, if you specifically looked for mindbreak/corruption, that's pretty much what you'll get most of the time, what makes this game stand out is how well executed it is and how much content it has.
Also bear in mind few games of this genre with similar quality are translated, so it's reception is even more positive.
Same, hentai anime are often so poorly drawn and animated. And most of the ones that catch my eye are adaptations from manga or eroge anyway, so it's better to just go straight for the source material. which often has much better and more consistent art.
Yeah hentai anime are time waster for me. I tried to watch some free ones online based on series I liked like Kyonyuu Fantasy and Koihime Musou, but it's just so meh compared to the VN. I like the games or doujin better.
Discovered this game from a while, and i must simply say that i love it, except for a few minor things.
It has almost everything i like in a eroge: pregnancy, mind break, FFM 3somes and harem ending, one of the few mind break games where the girl is loyal to the master and doesn't become not a free use slut, only to be used by the protagonist and preserves partially the personality and for that i like it even more.
The art is amazing, especially the facial expressions and the dialogue is priceless
I love how subtle but constant is the transition of girls to their mind break and how they slowly submit to lust as they get raped
My favourite girl of the cast is Marika, followed by Yuuna and Aina
I particulary liked Marika's scenes, except for some scenes in her ending that i ended up skipping, fortunately not present in other endings.
Best pair is Marika and Mifuyu with the best lewd dialogue followed by Aina and Yuuna .
Didn't like much the Hatsune\Narumi pair, but Hatsune herself is the cutest\innocent one that makes her "fall" even better.
Yuuna herself is cute with her "rape" fantasy that admits that she liked when Ryou raped her for the first time
Best ending: Marika and Mifuyu, along with their respective breaking scenes make them the best to choose, also Mother\Daughter 10\10
Such a shame only this game so far has been translated, does someone know if there's a plan to translate Bishop's other games?
hi, when i tried to use the save file:common.dat and when i put it into SMIE/Save, nothing changes in the game, am i doing it wrong? and i saw that i'm suppose to place it it in C:\Users\[your_username]\AppData\Local\BISHOP\SMIE\save, but i dont seem to have that path in my system, am i doing it wrong :<
hi, when i tried to use the save file:common.dat and when i put it into SMIE/Save, nothing changes in the game, am i doing it wrong? and i saw that i'm suppose to place it it in C:\Users\[your_username]\AppData\Local\BISHOP\SMIE\save, but i dont seem to have that path in my system, am i doing it wrong :<
