VN RPGM Onhold Saria Reclaimed [v0.17] [Velminth]

[Ironclad]

holy shit, i come back to see this is now rated lower than fucking CoC2, and is on pace to be rated lower than slop like Luna in the Tavern in a matter of days

You're telling me Savin is an even worse writer than Fen?

 

[Ricardomista]

What playing library of ruina does to a man

jokes aside I originally found the world traversal very unweildy and awkward but liked the old combat system, despite the massive grind it entails.

I like this version of the game more but its normal for people to be pissed off that he pulled that much of a bait and switch.
That's generally the problem with patreon based backing, as steering the ship in an unintended direction is bound to severely piss people off.

This is not what people paid for, and the dev could've wrapped up this game and put this idea on the backburner.

My only issue is that it's no longer a world at all, but a series of predefined conversations with a single fight. There are no forks or branches. (yet, hopefully.)

I still think the solution is to potentially make it a dungeon crawler type moving from room to room. Could separate some of the events from combat encounters too.

 

[Kauffman]

Suddenly a fuck ton of notifications from this game, time to say my piece again

Without comparing it to its previous version? its an at least decent VN game, still have alot of bugs (I got one which I dub persistent cum bug) and its still very dry in terms of content, the art is really the saving grace.

Comparing it to pre 0.16 on the other hand, boy we lost alot, a good, albeit grindy battle fuck system (I actually kinda like the PM-like reiteration of the battle fuck system more compared to the KP-like system), a decent exploration map, it could use some optimization, but it works nicely otherwise and looks good, and WE LOST THE ALMIGHTY MASSEUR SIDE JOB SCENES

 

[fart1111]

What playing library of ruina does to a man

jokes aside I originally found the world traversal very unweildy and awkward but liked the old combat system, despite the massive grind it entails.

I like this version of the game more but its normal for people to be pissed off that he pulled that much of a bait and switch.
That's generally the problem with patreon based backing, as steering the ship in an unintended direction is bound to severely piss people off.

This is not what people paid for, and the dev could've wrapped up this game and put this idea on the backburner.

The worst part is the complete removal of battlefuck and currently all of that art is just nuked and gone. And not to mention this is his second time doing a combat rework and the game is still an unbalanced mess. Enemies going first and 1 shotting you from full HP giving you no chance of counter play? Cards flat out lying about how much damage they deal? You can fuck right off with that shit.

 

[Szarala]

so, I'm curious what people think..

What would be worse:
A) what he did
or B) declaring the game abandoned and introducing 0.16 as a new game entirely?

 

[ABthePerve]

so, I'm curious what people think..

What would be worse:
A) what he did
or B) declaring the game abandoned and introducing 0.16 as a new game entirely?

B is what they should've done. Refunded all the people pledging for Saria Reclaimed as it was previously, been very clear about the new direction ahead of time and put it up as a new game at v.0.001 state.

So A would be worse, since what they are currently doing is pretty sad

 

[lookatall]

Even if I disagree with the change, I can understand why it was made.

The game had half-done systems on top of broken systems with all kinds of messes of buggy features stuck in at random and every patch seemed to try and cram some new mechanic in. I'd been wondering for a while now how it would ever be finished in the state it was in, you couldn't pay me to try and untangle all of that.

 

[Sneaky OwO]

Something something something is wrong lol

 

[MarshmallowCasserole]

A-ma-zing. Just fucking amazing.

I gave it one star long before it was cool

 

[BobTheF]

Tried playing, got to second fight then gave up. It's like the dev didn't even play it to see what it was like.

 

[nnjagnga333]

You're telling me Savin is an even worse writer than Fen?

Savin is so bad it makes fen look retroactively competent

 

[C17H19NO3]

*review spam meta intensifies*

 

[Nildzre]

Just you wait. Next update its gonna be Saria Lethal Company edition or some such shit

You joke but that sounds like an awesome game concept even as a porn game.

 

[Average Coomer]

The game has fallen.

 

[Tau_Iota]

I was planning on subbing when this game showed more growth, given I've gotten burned from pledging in the past. Reallyyy dodged a bullet on this one, because Library of Ruina VNs are not my jam. The people who pledged that are clawing at the walls in fury have every right to be, because the most appealing aspects of this game were completely removed.

And to the people mentioning CoC2, man you can't NOT also include The Observer when doing that. Vel has Savin quality writing and TObs tier salt

 

[Yossarian045]

So... it started promising... became questionable... and is now a visual novel, based on... SO MUCH review spam & the thread change...?

Ooof. Hard pass.

 

[halcyonpurge]

You're telling me Savin is an even worse writer than Fen?

unironically, yes. despite Fen's myriad of issues, he did write some of CoC competently, as in "it's a text-based porn game, who cares about lore or character drama". you knew what to expect. Savin tries to be everything Fen was but fails in every regard. none of the charm of the original is there - it's heavily diluted furshit with a huge side of weebshit, with too many awful ideas by too many incompetent writers, to even be considered coherent.

And to the people mentioning CoC2, man you can't NOT also include The Observer when doing that. Vel has Savin quality writing and TObs tier salt

this, unironically. Observer is a cringe compilation given form. the only thing Vel has over the CoC2 writers is that the fetishes he writes into aren't dogshit coomerslop. however, it remains to be seen if any future content for this game will feature primarily bla- i mean, minotaur bulls, with a heavy emphasis on cuckoldry. then maybe Vel, Savin and Tobs will be in a race to the bottom.

 

[JankiesTanker]

tbh at this point, just play Kay-Pri if you want the same experience before the Card battle system but way better, the dev already and perhaps will double down on the gameplay and Visual Novel aspect changes already. It's a matter of time either really it would be like this or by some ungodly miracle the dev would just continue the game we know more perhaps i dont know when though.

 

[Sweet Force]

Guys, I have the solution to make the game go back to how it was before:

1- We enter their discord as super friendly simps and recommend Velminth to play RPG games.
2- Velminth tries RPG games and likes them.
3- He decides to transform the game into an RPG with world exploration.

Other possible options:
- We must show Velminth "Beat'em up" games like Street of Rage or River City Girls so the next version of the game is a super incredible desert fighting game.

 

[Juicy Blueberry]

I don't mind the change from a RPG to a VN. But what's the point for making a VN using RPGM? Why don't just using Repny instead?