Doesn't matter if he's talented or if he's the only one who can cook chicken if all he does is burn it. It's effectively the same for the end user, who does not get a properly cooked chicken whether he's involved or not.
Yeah, except I WAS a supporter and I NO LONGER support due to the rudeness of the dev and the direction of the game changing. The criticisms go on deaf ears when suggested, claiming I needed to get good.
Everyone, thats saying "oh F95 is just being F95 again" or this is toxic and entitled behavior and clearly hasn't been reading replies and only cherry-pick replies. This game was compared to games like Lisa and Karyn from the early start of the development process, and we can even see the inspiration in his work. Even a game called Ruina which I've never played before the MC looks entirely like her and has some of the same card elements. This isn't a problem with the fans, it's a problem with the Dev. This game was too ambitious from the start and it's having an identity crisis. If it was just a Karyns Remake with a LiSA setting that would have been enough to set it apart from what its competitor, forerunner, or game it's compared to(whichever term you chose) Now the entire format of the game changes. Forget settings and inspirations, but now it's a VN game. What next real-life board game? Ova, handheld fighter? I'm in the discord for this game an Im actual supporter I can confirm that most of the time it's just an actual echo chamber or people just trying to appease Vel for whatever reason.
I feel like the abrupt gameplay changes and format in versions are enough to be critical. If the dev is foul-mouthed and insults supporters/fans then he shouldn't be surprised when/if they give him that same energy. Can we please stop acting like this Developer is being cyberbullied or run off the internet? some of his messages earlier in this thread (present and deleted) are more than enough proof that that isn't the case.
I feel like the abrupt gameplay changes and format in versions are enough to be critical. If the dev is foul-mouthed and insults supporters/fans then he shouldn't be surprised when/if they give him that same energy. Can we please stop acting like this Developer is being cyberbullied or run off the internet? some of his messages earlier in this thread (present and deleted) are more than enough proof that that isn't the case.
Oh yeah, the willpower thing was another problem I forgot to post about. I almost beat the big drunk guy, but he assumedly burped in my face and slapped my ass a few times and I lost
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So using the restaurant analogy; the dev opens up a restaurant that sells porkchops, to the interest of both customers (supporters) and the homeless (f95 in this case). He grows an audience around these porkchops, tempering his skills, adding different spices, improving its quality, and becoming liked for his quality meals. Then one day, for reasons largely unimportant to this example, he decides to start selling porkchops but diced into cubes. Everyone is a bit confused; some complain, some stop eating there, some offer criticism and worry over the change, etc. But overall the consumer base, if a bit smaller than before, remains present. Then the dev started selling chicken and stopped selling pork, and now everyone is up in arms.
Regardless of the reasons behind the changes, the dev initially gained popularity for selling porkchops. He has a decent following of fans who enjoy his porkchops. His talents and skills were originally developed when making porkchops. Now he's starting from scratch and needs to rebrand, and whether or not he serves the chicken burnt, raw, or cooked he's still not selling porkchops.
I'm not reading the rest of the comments, nor am I gonna judge whether each criticism is fair or braindead, rebranding from porkchops to chicken, with an audience that came here for porkchops, is a strange move that throws everyone for a loop.
Regardless of the reasons behind the changes, the dev initially gained popularity for selling porkchops. He has a decent following of fans who enjoy his porkchops. His talents and skills were originally developed when making porkchops. Now he's starting from scratch and needs to rebrand, and whether or not he serves the chicken burnt, raw, or cooked he's still not selling porkchops.
I'm not reading the rest of the comments, nor am I gonna judge whether each criticism is fair or braindead, rebranding from porkchops to chicken, with an audience that came here for porkchops, is a strange move that throws everyone for a loop.
It's not same, you can get burned chicken or get nothing at all, you not in position to choice if you so like to lurking around this chief.
The point is, the customer is expecting a properly cooked chicken. Whether he's a good chef or a bad chef, whether he's the only chef or there's no chef, no matter which way you slice it, a properly cooked chicken is not coming.
its better to have no chicken at all, rather than being promised a 5 star chicken parm and getting a charred barely edible piece of coal.
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I just hope that the next user who makes an analogy with food and restaurant brings chicken for everyone here, so many comments make you hungry.
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You want a pizza with meat and cheese. You get a pizza with pineapples instead.
You know, regardless of what you think internally about the situation, speaking openly and so rudely about those who supported you for so long is simply stupid.
It's so difficult to have a little tact and I don't know, to invent some wall of text that in short says "The project surpassed me, my time and private life no longer lend themselves to something so extensive, so I'll change the focus for something more Modest, I am very sorry for those who wanted to see this complete game but unfortunately it will be impossible for me to finish"?
I mean, it probably wouldn't be enough, but at least you'd have a larger audience on your side and public trust wouldn't drop as low.
I mean, you don't need to have a master's degree in marketing to understand something as simple as not becoming the enemy of your audience.
Your expectations are your own problem. Accept this as an adult, not as a child.
It's a problem to expect what you were told to expect by the chef? That's news to me. Accepting it as an adult is in fact leaving feedback for improvement, as well as warning others who are not aware of what the chef has done.
Vel marketed this, and worked on it, as a battle fuck RPG for 2 years. It's not childish or unreasonable or anything like that to have expected a battle fuck RPG from him.
Either way, if I was bait and switched at a resturant, and then the chef told me to deal with it, I will stop eating there
The other half of the equation is that even for the people who do like the new direction the game is going in, what happens when Velminth decides he doesn't like this direction either? He's already proven he's willing to tear up the foundations once, he could just as easily do so again.
Yes, as long as you don't have a receipt of payment that indicates the item you bought. If there is such a receipt, then this is already the seller's problem and you can safely protect your rights through the court.
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Generally I agree with your comment, but to me it's obvious it is not a scam, strictly speaking.
Think about it, a scam is fundamentally about money. In the context of patreon-funded games a scam is about getting as much support as possible with as little labor spent as possible. A radical rework, of all things, is absolutely ruinous for that goal. It requires more labor, and it, predictably, pisses of tons of supporters. A scammer would never ever do such a thing, they would simply release very little new content, and delay updates as much as possible. I know of a certain creator that is making $1300 a month without a single release in
This dev, however, is doing a lot of stuff that directly causes loss of money. Realistically, we can say a) velm does not know what the game is supposed to be, and b) he's full of himself, unable to respond to criticism, unable to assume any responsibility.
Being a self-absorbed asshole is not uncommon among "artists". But a self-absorbed asshole without any creative vision is, well, what we're seing in action. And it is a glorious, glorious trainwreck.
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I played it for a bit, dont think this new direction is inherently bad. All the pixel art was probably really time consuming. But still the way it is now is just disappointing. The game should start in some sort of hub area like a town, represented by a series of static images that you navigate via menu and can talk to some characters to obtain quests and with that access to new locations. Once you are done you leave town and are presented with a world map where you choose where to go. That way the player would have more agency rather than doing things in such a linear fashion and it would also be visually more interesting. Also some of the new art is very wonky like the one of naked saria covering her breasts during combat.
Also is the whole "fuck-battle" aspect of the game permanently gone or just undergoing reworks?
I prefer the current version in some ways, If the dev continues working on it and improving it, the negativity surrounding the game will dissipate. But he needs to stop being so sensitive and lashing out at people. This was a drastic change that caught people off-guard so the strong reactions are somewhat understandable.
Also is the whole "fuck-battle" aspect of the game permanently gone or just undergoing reworks?
I prefer the current version in some ways, If the dev continues working on it and improving it, the negativity surrounding the game will dissipate. But he needs to stop being so sensitive and lashing out at people. This was a drastic change that caught people off-guard so the strong reactions are somewhat understandable.
Oh I wasnt really giving the thread attention more than my earlier post. it was just a reply to you.
Have a nice day.