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VN RPGM Abandoned Saria Reclaimed [v0.17] [Velminth]

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Josedx9

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Aug 26, 2018
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You know, regardless of what you think internally about the situation, speaking openly and so rudely about those who supported you for so long is simply stupid.
It's so difficult to have a little tact and I don't know, to invent some wall of text that in short says "The project surpassed me, my time and private life no longer lend themselves to something so extensive, so I'll change the focus for something more Modest, I am very sorry for those who wanted to see this complete game but unfortunately it will be impossible for me to finish"?
I mean, it probably wouldn't be enough, but at least you'd have a larger audience on your side and public trust wouldn't drop as low.
I mean, you don't need to have a master's degree in marketing to understand something as simple as not becoming the enemy of your audience.
 

Frostfire281

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Jan 18, 2019
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Your expectations are your own problem. Accept this as an adult, not as a child.
It's a problem to expect what you were told to expect by the chef? That's news to me. Accepting it as an adult is in fact leaving feedback for improvement, as well as warning others who are not aware of what the chef has done.

Vel marketed this, and worked on it, as a battle fuck RPG for 2 years. It's not childish or unreasonable or anything like that to have expected a battle fuck RPG from him.
 

MarshmallowCasserole

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Yeah, we're all aware that the current market is all for scammers to start a promising project only to drop out a quarter of the way through development, which is spread across 1-6 years. So are you saying it's a good or a bad thing? Because it sounds like you're trying to justify the dev dragging this project out and scamming clueless people who just didn't know any better.
Generally I agree with your comment, but to me it's obvious it is not a scam, strictly speaking.

Think about it, a scam is fundamentally about money. In the context of patreon-funded games a scam is about getting as much support as possible with as little labor spent as possible. A radical rework, of all things, is absolutely ruinous for that goal. It requires more labor, and it, predictably, pisses of tons of supporters. A scammer would never ever do such a thing, they would simply release very little new content, and delay updates as much as possible. I know of a certain creator that is making $1300 a month without a single release in two years . Oh wait, it's '24 already, so no content updates in three years. THREE YEARS. All you have to do for that to work is to garner initial support, and then make excuses, excuses, promises, excuses, and promises.

This dev, however, is doing a lot of stuff that directly causes loss of money. Realistically, we can say a) velm does not know what the game is supposed to be, and b) he's full of himself, unable to respond to criticism, unable to assume any responsibility.

Being a self-absorbed asshole is not uncommon among "artists". But a self-absorbed asshole without any creative vision is, well, what we're seing in action. And it is a glorious, glorious trainwreck.
 

baiorensujaku

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I played it for a bit, dont think this new direction is inherently bad. All the pixel art was probably really time consuming. But still the way it is now is just disappointing. The game should start in some sort of hub area like a town, represented by a series of static images that you navigate via menu and can talk to some characters to obtain quests and with that access to new locations. Once you are done you leave town and are presented with a world map where you choose where to go. That way the player would have more agency rather than doing things in such a linear fashion and it would also be visually more interesting. Also some of the new art is very wonky like the one of naked saria covering her breasts during combat.
Also is the whole "fuck-battle" aspect of the game permanently gone or just undergoing reworks?

I prefer the current version in some ways, If the dev continues working on it and improving it, the negativity surrounding the game will dissipate. But he needs to stop being so sensitive and lashing out at people. This was a drastic change that caught people off-guard so the strong reactions are somewhat understandable.
 
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KpEn

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The other half of the equation is that even for the people who do like the new direction the game is going in, what happens when Velminth decides he doesn't like this direction either? He's already proven he's willing to tear up the foundations once, he could just as easily do so again.
Twice. Adding the card battle system that most people disagreed with.
 
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HikkiG

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Also is the whole "fuck-battle" aspect of the game permanently gone or just undergoing reworks?
Gone, Vel doesn't want to make battle-fuck anymore. The only aspect remaining is, and will only be, few harrasement attacks as prelude to a game over.
 

Nichizo

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May 23, 2023
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I'm really dissapointed by this bro just casually say that he doesnt even care about he's own supporters
there is a lot of context removed from that lil chat btw
:unsure: vel doesn't like drawing bald man png so he took off the battle fuck in exchange more content will come out of this thats the tldr.
 

majespecter

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Jan 13, 2018
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Considering most of the battle fuck animations were already done, at least for the humans, why not just throw them in? Also it sort of bothers me that some of the cut in animations suddenly have her clothed when she was already stripped naked. Minor gripe, but I always notice it.
 
2.40 star(s) 162 Votes