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VN RPGM Abandoned Saria Reclaimed [v0.17] [Velminth]

2.40 star(s) 162 Votes

mgbm

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Guys, why the game has 2 stars? The legacy version deserves minimum 3 stars.
It's simple, really. The legacy version, as good as it is, is not the most up to date version and not what Velminth was planning around in the future. No, what people are judging is the game that went through two different genre changes, going from a LISA-esque RPG, to a deck builder RPG, to the VNRPG version that we know and loathe today.

People (myself included if you want to read my review) are judging the game as a whole and not just what it used to be, that and Velminth's reactions to people's comments to and about changes (and whether he can actually deliver on a game, keep in mind they are 0/3 at this point)
 
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BigBiggieBig

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Guys, why the game has 2 stars? The legacy version deserves minimum 3 stars.
It's rated 2-stars because the content, good as it is, is minimal and unfinished, the plot is non-existent, the mechanics are unpolished as fuck, the game's buggy as shit, and it's abandoned aka never going to be finished or fixed.

I get that you like the game and that you think it has 'le potential' or whatever, but it is heavily-flawed, flaws that could have been fixed if the dev wasn't an ape/grifter.

Of course people will rate both the game and the developer, specially in an abandoned game that has gone through several re-works, in what world is anyone going to just rate an abandoned v0.17 game more than 2 stars lmao.

Actually, Velminth started his project as a hobby, so he wanted just to deliver his personal projects to people without any seriousness.
Ah, yes, a patreon-funded hobby, mind you. But you conveniently left that out.
 
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MaikeyHD

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It is sad that people review more developer, than a game itself. Actually, Velminth started his project as a hobby, so he wanted just to deliver his personal projects to people without any seriousness. It is worth to keep in mind that he is not really dedicated game developer, and just an amateur. After that wave of hate, his hobby become a nightmare, I can understand him. Nobody wants to work under pressure, especially if it even not his job, and just a hobby.
he took money and ran sarias not the first games he has abandoned and won't be the last look at cogito line lol
 
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mgbm

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It is sad that people review more developer, than a game itself. Actually, Velminth started his project as a hobby, so he wanted just to deliver his personal projects to people without any seriousness. It is worth to keep in mind that he is not really dedicated game developer, and just an amateur. After that wave of hate, his hobby become a nightmare, I can understand him. Nobody wants to work under pressure, especially if it even not his job, and just a hobby.
I disagree with your first point, while yes the product should always be front and center in a review, it's also important to consider who is making it. Once again, this game was being made by someone who shifted the gameplay two different times, called criticisms of SR "downs-syndrome borne accusations" in some now deleted comments or even the comment I referenced in my review where he was mad at someone for the VN change and said "You are the guy that has been upset for more than half a year now about the game, and yet here you are in every other page, still here, gurgling my balls like a little dog ;)". I'm not going to say what he was responding to here was necessarily warranted but Velminth also didn't need to respond, he could've just taken it as another person who isn't happy with the direction of the game.

It's great that Velminth started this as a hobby, but when you peak at making $1538 USD a month out of 753 paying members, you should at least TRY to come across as professional to some degree. Also, if that many people are giving you $1538 USD a month, the bare minimum you can do is deliver on a product.

Seeing as we're on the topic of, may I ask your opinion on Velminth's Patreon? At the time of writing this he is currently making 564.33 USD out of 297 paying members, and he hasn't done anything since April. No commissions, no mention of him cancelling Cogito Line which he did in July, not even a mention that he is working on a new game (that we don't know the title of, assuming a name exists).

Do you want to know another dev who is an amateur? The creator of City of Secrets, TheDarkLight. The game itself isn't relevant but what is is that TDL has less dev experience than Velminth, who has a bit over 3 years of experience, and isn't rude to people who criticize his work (worse he did say was towards someone had a "stupid take" where all art should be added as the game progresses i.e the first dungeon should come out with all art and pixel animations finished, disregarding how much work that truly is).

Finally, and I promise this is not a slight against you in the least, Velminth doesn't care about you, your opinions, or your money in the slightest. You can comment on the wave of hate and how working on the game became a nightmare for him, but he handled things in the worst way, instead of buckling down, filtering criticisms into relevant and irrelevant or the reason why people would say what they're saying, he just attacked everyone.
 
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fraazx

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It is sad that people review more developer, than a game itself. Actually, Velminth started his project as a hobby, so he wanted just to deliver his personal projects to people without any seriousness. It is worth to keep in mind that he is not really dedicated game developer, and just an amateur. After that wave of hate, his hobby become a nightmare, I can understand him. Nobody wants to work under pressure, especially if it even not his job, and just a hobby.
I can say a lot of things to rip your points to shred, hell most of the points I made before to other ass lickers apply to you, but it's not worth the effort and time.

*Edit - Bro, even if you delete your post, it's legit pointless lmao. We still got your comment in our replies.*
 
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Nullx54

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TLDR, since this is already talked about plenty. They took a Karryn's prison style combat system, then transitioned to a deck builder battle system, both of which used a side view overworld map and in combat sex as well as defeat scenes. Then they changed it to basically a visual novel. Neither of these changes were popular, and they abandoned this game and another that they released one demo for after before claiming they're starting another game (with no evidence of it yet).
Not to mention the feel had a bit of Lisa: The Painful in terms of atmosphere, it was good, Velminth was cooking but decided to waste it. A damn shame. I could see this game becoming something amazing if he kept on working on it. I'd say for him to take a break, and then go back to the game if burnout if an issue.
 
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BreezyRV

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Bro can someone post the file or zip for version 13 without the shitty card system??? I've looked everywhere I can think and I swear that shit feels like its is lost media
 

Toonzie

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Finally abandoned? Last time i checked it was on hold. I thought somehow they gonna fix it, but... Dayuum bruh... At first i thought this game got so much potential, such a shame. :(
 
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HikkiG

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Finally abandoned? Last time i checked it was on hold. I thought somehow they gonna fix it, but... Dayuum bruh... At first i thought this game got so much potential, such a shame. :(
Abandoned tag is placed when X amount of month are passed without an update of any kind, be it written or published game version. In case of Saria: Velminth went radio silent several months ago after announcing a new project.
 
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2.40 star(s) 162 Votes